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Fred | Fenerbahçe player
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How’s he getting hat tricks 
How’s he getting hat tricks
Leaving this mess of a club was a great start.
Should still be playing in a top 5 league. Could maybe even argue we might have just kept him if the intention was chaotic Pingpong ball.
That first goal was a banger.
Pastor Fred
FFS
The problem was we tried to make him some sort of defensive midfielder while he was here, a classic United square peg, round hold situation that’s plagued the club for years. Mata was another one, a brilliant no.10 and we ended up playing him on the wing.
Had glaring weaknesses but was never near as bad as made out. Great attitude too. His work rate is sorely missed.
McSauce is going, bring him back
Super happy for him!
Who had "Fred scores a hattrick, before United under ETH" on their bingo cards?
Who had "Fred scores a hattrick, before United under ETH" on their bingo cards?
He was always the better half of McFred. Was more upset to see him go then McTominay.
Really happy for him.
Decent player, comes to United, becomes shit, we sell for f*uck all, does ok elsewhere.
Best of luck to him.
Best of luck to him.
i’d score a hattrick in turkey if i wasn’t banned from entering.
Think it's generally frowned upon to enter a turkey.
they wouldn’t make them so sexy if you weren’t allowed to do it.
He wasn’t shit when he was actually played in his proper position. He was actually rather good. Never top level but definitely an asset.
Jose & then Ole’s attempt to turn him into a deep lying #6 was one of the many stupid decisions our managers have made in the last decade. Just a complete and utter waste of his talents.
Glad to see he’s going well. Very likeable guy.
A fair point.
There is a new law forbidding this.
Legally, you supposed to call them 'turkiyes' now.
Always rated him more than McTominnay. Never understood why we sold him, considering he was one of our best pressing players. His passing was erratic at times, bordering on atrocious, however he would ocassionally put in a 9/10 performance from time to time.
Best of luck to him.
Best of luck to him.
Where the feck was Fred hiding that when he was at United. I remember him skying shots over the bar with regularity, has nothing to do with where Jose or Ole played him, he just couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
How’s he done this past year?
The opposition keeper channeling his inner Onana
I think some players just struggle adapting to the prem. Fred looked class at Shakhtar, became a comedy figure at United, now looks a player again.
Goalkeeper must be his biggest fan.
The odd thing is that some of the best performance in the 22/23 season came with Fred and Cas playing together but Ten Hag in his infinite wisdom decided to bring Sabitzer in and go to that ridiculous midfield shape that we saw for most of last season, it is the major reason why Utd were an embarrassing shambles from the league cup win to the Arsenal home game late last season.
None of it makes sense, wants to play ultra press, gets rid of the one midfielder who had the physical capacity to do it.
The odd thing is that some of the best performance in the 22/23 season came with Fred and Cas playing together but Ten Hag in his infinite wisdom decided to bring Sabitzer in and go to that ridiculous midfield shape that we saw for most of last season, it is the major reason why Utd were an embarrassing shambles from the league cup win to the Arsenal home game late last season.
None of it makes sense, wants to play ultra press, gets rid of the one midfielder who had the physical capacity to do it.
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He was actually pretty good in a lot of games.
He had his uses, mainly as a headless chicken in big games, but he was very limited. Couldn’t pass, couldn’t shoot, couldn’t tackle. Yet we insisted on playing him in a 2 which never made sense. With a couple of actual midfielders beside him he could’ve been accommodated, but we always play with a 10.
We only got 6m for him, I’d have kept him around for the right game. Especially when we used that money and more to loan Amrabat.
I still maintain he would've been dynamite if he went to Klopp's Liverpool instead of us back in 2018.
He was one of the highest scoring CMs in the league in his final season.
The first 2 goals the keeper made a mess of it.
Fred on his day could be the best player on the pitch. The issue is the next game he was bang average. Even in games he was going from moments of brilliance to comedy errors. Good player obviously, not brilliant.
Fred on his day could be the best player on the pitch. The issue is the next game he was bang average. Even in games he was going from moments of brilliance to comedy errors. Good player obviously, not brilliant.
He was fit as a butcher’s dog. Never got injured and could run all day. Must be aging incredibly well too. We could do with more players like that, that’s for damn sure.
Problem with Fred was the disparity between his top level and his bottom level which you can't really accept when your a midfielder at a top club. I know CM's have bad games etc but some of the stuff he used to do was amateurish, simple 5 yard balls failing, turning the ball over in dangerous areas with a bad touch.
I'd often say about Fred that he'll either be MOM for the other team or for us.
I'd often say about Fred that he'll either be MOM for the other team or for us.
I was looking at his stats a few days ago from the 20/21 season and they were better than any midfielder on the market today.
He had some dumb moments that got exaggerated to make it look like that was his normal level which wasn't the case at all.
He had some dumb moments that got exaggerated to make it look like that was his normal level which wasn't the case at all.
He wasn't as limited as what you make out. He was a decent passer (not great, but decent), it's just that when he got it wrong he did tend to get it very wrong so it really stood out and became all that a lot of people remembered. Combine that with us stupidly asking him to play as our deep-lying playmaker for most of his first four years (mostly next to a midfielder who barely gets on the ball in McTominay) and we were relying on him to do far more on the ball than he should have ever been asked to do. Not because he was bad, but because he was only decent and that's not good enough for the role we had him playing.
He wasn't a great player, but his poor attributes did tend to be significantly exaggerated at times.
There seemed to be a lot of myths that somehow got accepted as truth with Fred. The most glaring example for me was somebody on this forum really pushing a narrative in 22/23 (or it may have been 21/22) that you could tell what type of game Fred would have in the first few minutes, because if he started poorly he always continued that way all game. Suddenly I saw quite a few others parroting the same thing in multiple threads across the forum for the next few months. The problem was that it was literally the exact opposite of what was happening on the pitch at the time, as it was becoming a bit of a trend that Fred would start games poorly for the first 15-20 minutes before turning things around and being one of our best (if not our best) for the remainder of the match.