We ain't going for shit until we find out who the next manager is, no matter if the player costs 2 mil or 100 mil.
They'll never bloody learn, will they.
See you at the next Barca implosion in 5 years!
Eh? Signing players on a free certainly seems like learning to me. 160k pw is not much these days, especially for a free agent.
If it doesnt work out they could likely sell him to an English club for 20m and they would still have made a profit. I do think Kessie is a good player, wouldnt mind it if United showed interest in him.
Less than 15 games for Barcelona and then sold to Newcastle next summer
Eh? Signing players on a free certainly seems like learning to me. 160k pw is not much these days, especially for a free agent.
Also consider commissions to the agents / players. Romano stated beforehand that often time free transfers can cost a club in the region of 10-50 million (excluding wages) in commissions for players as the agents merely negotiate the fee the buying club would have had to pay the selling club as some type of leverage.
Free transfers should be approached with caution, they are far from 'free' and if any decent have usually fecked their club over to line their pockets.
You're right, but also buying in January at a premium when not knowing the other manager might be a waste of money. Maybe Ralf will build a squad with a cohesive vision.Might be right. I think it's more pegged to outgoings - Martial / Lingard / VDB go and somebody comes in I reckon.
We can't keep buying for managers playstyles anyway, that's backwards. Build the squad with a cohesive vision and get the manager in who suits that vision. Saves the tri-annual 'Rebuild'.
You're right, but also buying in January at a premium when not knowing the other manager might be a waste of money. Maybe Ralf will build a squad with a cohesive vision.
Classic United, have a gaping hole in midfield and yet watch Kessie sign for Barca for free and Newcastle grab Guimaraes for 32m. Probably would've been my #1 and 2 options this summer...
Kamara, Brozović and Bennacer left for good priced or free alternatives i guess...
it seems Barca rejected due to the asking wages.Has it been confirmed Kessie going to Barca ? I also think he will be a great choice for us if we play 4-2-3-1.
Only Man Utd can afford this salary.it seems Barca rejected due to the asking wages.
He wants 16-18m/year
meaning 302k-346k €/week
Ever heard of Newcastle?Only Man Utd can afford this salary.
I’d imagine it’s just a starting point for negotiation. Do think Newcastle and us would bite for himThat’s crazy money. I want him and I think he could eventually be a star in the PL but the truth is for his first deal in a harder new league that’s nearly double what he should be getting on all known form. Reckon that’ll scare a lot of good clubs off hin.
I’d imagine it’s just a starting point for negotiation. Do think Newcastle and us would bite for him
I would put him on current Pogba wages (if Pogba leaves) and that’ll be the best he’ll get. I think Kessie would suit us better than Pogs as a box to box as he’s more physical and hardworking while still capable of running play and he hasn’t peaked yet.
It is simple. Just don't offer him that kind of salary for his service. Rabiot and Ramsey for Juventus are good example already.Wouldn't be surprised if those figures are accurate. We know how the game works, players run down contracts to try and find a way for the transfer fee to appear in their pay packet. If there is some competition for his signature then it only helps his cause.
Whether it is relative value or not really depends on his quality, but the problem is if he's so so it doesn't give much room for negotiation on the next contract and makes him hard to shift. So it is somewhat limiting and that's a mistake we make a lot with wages.
I'm not saying we should, I'm saying that's the game these free agents will play and he will certainly end up on more than he otherwise would. It represents value to a club that procures his services even if his wage is inflated. 320k might be a bit OTT, though.It is simple. Just don't offer him that kind of salary for his service. Rabiot and Ramsey for Juventus are good example already.
In a way yes. But like you said if the said player can't fit in you are stuck with an "asset" that is hard to move on, and may unsettle the dressing room with his high wages too. so it is a double edged sword. Lots of free players available this summer and that is the trend.I'm not saying we should, I'm saying that's the game these free agents will play and he will certainly end up on more than he otherwise would. It represents value to a club that procures his services even if his wage is inflated. 320k might be a bit OTT, though.
He is a fantastic player and likely wont cost an insane amount, so that definitely rules us out!
I was going to say it doesnt seem that bad a move for Barcelona... Then I remembered that the one thing they dont need is a central midfielder who likes to be on the ball and join the attack.
Thats essentially all they have
Add to that their high profile signings havent tended to do well and Kessie would be one of them if they wanted to sign him and he had a 4 year deal or something. So yeah...
Now I suspect that in a year they'll try and sell him for a profit
I'm thinking they'd be trying to convert him into being their 6 since Nico hasn't gotten time there.
#9/Aubameyang or Depay/Gavi
Ferran/Adama/Winger/Gavi
Pedri/DeJong/Gavi/Nico
Kessie/Busquets
Would be my guess. No first XI spot for Gavi, but he can be used in various front positions as an alternative (tucked in winger or false 9) off the bench, and he's still only 17 so probably like 20 starts and 30 sub apperances is enough for now to not ruin him.
A new winger or Dembele stays. Then add Christensen or another CB and probably a new fullback on each side.
I'm thinking they'd be trying to convert him into being their 6 since Nico hasn't gotten time there.
#9/Aubameyang or Depay/Gavi
Ferran/Adama/Winger/Gavi
Pedri/DeJong/Gavi/Nico
Kessie/Busquets
Would be my guess. No first XI spot for Gavi, but he can be used in various front positions as an alternative (tucked in winger or false 9) off the bench, and he's still only 17 so probably like 20 starts and 30 sub apperances is enough for now to not ruin him.
A new winger or Dembele stays. Then add Christensen or another CB and probably a new fullback on each side.
He is a grafter like McT, with limited passing range. He's no better than Fred. We need more than that.
I would put him on current Pogba wages (if Pogba leaves) and that’ll be the best he’ll get. I think Kessie would suit us better than Pogs as a box to box as he’s more physical and hardworking while still capable of running play and he hasn’t peaked yet.
Kessie makes zero sense for Barcelona. Zero. Only reason they're even interested is because he's cheap for a player of his caliber - which still doesn't mean he's cheap though, because he's gonna cost upwards of 10M a year. Might as well spend 15/20 but get a player the club actually needs, if you ask meXavi wants to have 6 high-level midfielders. The season is long and there will be injuries.
Gavi is performing at a very high level, better than De Jong. Right now he is a starter at Barcelona, without discussion.
I don't know which player Xavi has planned to replace Busquets. The normal thing would be De Jong or Nico.
Lately there is talk of interest in Tchouameni, for my fake news. And Gravenberch, I don't know if he plays 6 or 8. Having the players that the team has right now the money should be for other positions.
Gavi/Kessie - Busquets /De Jong - Pedri/Nico
Some of them can change positions, so there is no problem to fit them.
