Former United Coach Benni McCarthy Slams Players: "Bruno and Dalot gave everything they had in training. Some of the others didn't do the same."

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Some really damning quotes from our former United First-Team Coach Benni McCarthy a few days ago, who questioned the attitude of some of our players during training while he was at this club.


Former United Coach Benni McCarthy:
"If some of the Manchester United players had what Bruno Fernandes and Diogo Dalot have, it would have been easier to achieve good results. They both trained with incredible concentration, giving everything they had. Some of the others didn't do the same."

"This ended up limiting United's progress, because some players weren't training to the best of their ability. Even in games, the data showed us that some players were at their peak performance and others a little below."


This is an utterly disgusting state regarding some of our players. I'm shocked these quotes aren't being talked about more.
 
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The title contains a quote that doesn't exist. That could be why people aren't talking about it, as it was only recently made up.
 
He doesn’t say only Bruno and Dalot give their all. He offers those two as examples of players who do and then says some of the others don’t do the same.

We knew that anyway.
 
While ideally players should do very well in training that doesn't mean that those who don't doesn't give a feck. Some players simply can't motivate themselves during training but would kill for their club during the game. If memory serves me right Choccy and Pallister were notoriously poor in training. SAF even dedicated a shirt to the latter who ended up being worn by the one who didn't apply himself during training.

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devilish said:
While ideally players should do very well in training that doesn't mean that those who don't doesn't give a feck. Some players simply can't motivate themselves during training but would kill for their club during the game. If memory serves me right Choccy and Pallister were notoriously poor in training. SAF even dedicated a shirt to the latter who ended up being worn by the one who didn't apply himself during training.
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Great picture. Apparently Pallister had a weight problem as well!
 
VeryPrecious89 said:
Great picture. Apparently Pallister had a weight problem as well!
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But he also had an ongoing back issue and needed a bed installed on the coach to help him. Didn’t help himself by eating junk food a lot.

Also Paul McGrath famously didn’t do any training with Villa because of his knees. He just turned up for matches and did the business.
 
Tevez as well was apparently a horrible trainer. Still fought like a madman in games.
 
What a surprise... Our two best, fittest and hardest working players are also good in training.

Still damning that it's just those two and "some others". Everyone at this level should train hard!
 
devilish said:
While ideally players should do very well in training that doesn't mean that those who don't doesn't give a feck. Some players simply can't motivate themselves during training but would kill for their club during the game. If memory serves me right Choccy and Pallister were notoriously poor in training. SAF even dedicated a shirt to the latter who ended up being worn by the one who didn't apply himself during training.

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That's not good enough, players need to be very focused in training to get the structure, position, patterns right.

A lot has changed since those times.
 
All fair points about different attitudes in games, but you can imagine who he’s referring to. The ones who don’t give a shite in games either (Sancho, Rashford etc)
 
Hammondo said:
That's not good enough, players need to be very focused in training to get the structure, position, patterns right.

A lot has changed since those times.
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What truly matter is how they perform during the game. It's as simple as that.
 
golden_blunder said:
But he also had an ongoing back issue and needed a bed installed on the coach to help him. Didn’t help himself by eating junk food a lot.

Also Paul McGrath famously didn’t do any training with Villa because of his knees. He just turned up for matches and did the business.
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Didn’t know about Pally. I read McGrath’s autobiography a bit back. It’s fascinating on his substance abuse struggles. He once sneaked downstairs in the early hours to drink a bottle of bleach.
 
We’ve conceded twelve goals in the first five matches. Some of the blame should be directed at our defensive coach -Andreas Georgson, for the obvious failings in training.
 
RopersReturn said:
We’ve conceded twelve goals in the first five matches. Some of the blame should be directed at our defensive coach -Andreas Georgson, for the obvious failings in training.
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We were doing the same last season. Perhaps he should be scrutinised but can we really blame him when these problems were there already?

We conceded ten in first 5 last season. 14 for the first 6
 
RopersReturn said:
We’ve conceded twelve goals in the first five matches. Some of the blame should be directed at our defensive coach -Andreas Georgson, for the obvious failings in training.
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We’ve conceded plenty from open play, what’s a set piece coach supposed to help with that?
 
its fine that throughout history there are players who weren't good trainers...but you were damn sure they turned up on match day.
we apparently have players who arent good trainers and then dont show up on match day. They need to go. Yesterday!
 
Catch said:
its fine that throughout history there are players who weren't good trainers...but you were damn sure they turned up on match day.
we apparently have players who arent good trainers and then dont show up on match day. They need to go. Yesterday!
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People have been saying this the whole way through the last 10 years. Players get cleared out, then people keep saying it.
When barely any players have been here for most of that period.
 
The quote isn't talked about more because there is nothing to say about it. Every single club has some players that don't train particularly well, out of 30 something players it's perfectly normal. In reality this quote is more damning for Benni because he knows it, he has been a professional player for a long time, he is running his mouth to be relevant while saying nothing but that nothing is going to get some attention on social media.

If I was a DOF that would be enough to never consider him as a staff member because he clearly is a shit stirrer.
 
golden_blunder said:
But he also had an ongoing back issue and needed a bed installed on the coach to help him. Didn’t help himself by eating junk food a lot.

Also Paul McGrath famously didn’t do any training with Villa because of his knees. He just turned up for matches and did the business.
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Different times
The speed and distances covered in the game mean you need to be athletes more than ever
 
SirScholes said:
Different times
The speed and distances covered in the game mean you need to be athletes more than ever
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Yes it was different times

But it’s true to say that it’s natural that one or 2 might always be giving everything in every session but the players are human not robots. It’s not right to think that everybody will train at maximum every minute of training every day. It’s just nonsense to think that way.

If someone is not turning up for training repeatedly that’s a different story.

But what McCarthy says here is a non-story in my opinion
 
I think it's safe to assume players who don't put a shift in games also don't turn up for training.
 
pablo__p said:
I think it's safe to assume players who don't put a shift in games also don't turn up for training.
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It actually isn't. It's fairly common for players to be pretty good in training and subpar during actual games, that's generally the case for all the non starters and fringe players.
 
Lennon7 said:
All fair points about different attitudes in games, but you can imagine who he’s referring to. The ones who don’t give a shite in games either (Sancho, Rashford etc)
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Can we? Or are people going to imagine different players and get mad at their preferred scapegoat for being lazy?
RopersReturn said:
We’ve conceded twelve goals in the first five matches. Some of the blame should be directed at our defensive coach -Andreas Georgson, for the obvious failings in training.
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Maybe identify the right coach to direct it at first? Dude has also only been here two months, so even if you hadn't targeted the wrong coach, he's new at the club and also working under a manager who's been serving up shite for a year-and-a-half.
 
Bennie talked about the two best trainers. Only two players were fully committed in training.
Dalot and Fernandes.
Of course he was talking a Portuguese media outlet, ZeroZero.
A bit like Pele saying in whatever country he was in, you could win the world cup in 10 years time.
 
So Benni couldn’t organise sessions that interested and motivated the players. Says more about him than the players he was coaching.
 
I think his comments on Sancho were more interesting, speaks highly of him.

 
I think the main point people are missing isn’t the fact that some players perform poorly in training is problematic.

What’s problematic is that apparently the same players are also not fully applying themselves during games.

It would be fine if we had a bunch of Eden Hazard who don’t train but show up during games. Here we apparently have players who don’t train well, don’t play well and don’t play with intensity
 
RopersReturn said:
We’ve conceded twelve goals in the first five matches. Some of the blame should be directed at our defensive coach -Andreas Georgson, for the obvious failings in training.
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I thought he was the set piece coach?
 
Zed is not dead said:
I think the main point people are missing isn’t the fact that some players perform poorly in training is problematic.

What’s problematic is that apparently the same players are also not fully applying themselves during games.

It would be fine if we had a bunch of Eden Hazard who don’t train but show up during games. Here we apparently have players who don’t train well, don’t play well and don’t play with intensity
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That's not really interesting because that's always true and that's why some players never become regular starters or lose their spots. For me the most interesting point is that Bruno trains with great intensity and focus but hasn't improved in a single area since 2020, that is bloody worrying.
 
golden_blunder said:
Yes it was different times

But it’s true to say that it’s natural that one or 2 might always be giving everything in every session but the players are human not robots. It’s not right to think that everybody will train at maximum every minute of training every day. It’s just nonsense to think that way.

If someone is not turning up for training repeatedly that’s a different story.

But what McCarthy says here is a non-story in my opinion
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Might be a non story but not everyone needs to be training 10/10 but everyone should be atleast 7/10
 
JPRouve said:
It actually isn't. It's fairly common for players to be pretty good in training and subpar during actual games, that's generally the case for all the non starters and fringe players.
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How do you know it’s common?
 
SirScholes said:
Might be a non story but not everyone needs to be training 10/10 but everyone should be atleast 7/10
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The important thing is what they do on the pitch. IF it’s not happening on the pitch then how are they in training? But there’s been plenty of reports that many of them are doing great sessions
 
SirScholes said:
How do you know it’s common?
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Let's say, my own experience and the experience of professional athletes I grew up with including some that played for France at youth and senior level in Football, Basketball, Handball and Rugby.

Both sides of the spectrum are common, every athletes will be able to give you a list of teammates that aren't particularly engaged during practice but somehow perform very well during games and athletes that are very good in practice but subpar during actual games/competitions.
 
Has Benni stopped eating or something?

Can't stop his mouth from moving, so instead of shovelling shit in, he's spitting it out.
 
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