Footballers without abs

It's simple maths. Rooney is taking in more calories than he can burn to maintain his weight let alone lose weight. Given the fact that he plays a sport that requires a lot of running, he must be eating Big Mac's and drinking Super Size Cokes.
I'm 42 and dropped from 180 to 145 in 4 months just by changing my diet. I'm 5'9". I don't drink soda nor do I eat fast food. I also don't "work out". I maintain a physical lifestyle but am no stranger to sitting on my ass eating a bag of chips while enjoying a couple of beers once in a while. I eat plenty of carbs too.

Bottom line, Rooney eats too much junk.

Utter tosh. It's one thing to say his diet may be bad. It's another to specifiy the drink and size of it.

No idea why you're adding 'I eat plenty of Carbs' in there. That's obvious. You eat chips. You drink beer.

Well done on the weight loss though. Always to be commended.
 
Pretty sure everyone around me at the bar thinks I'm gay after scrolling through this thread
 
I don't think I've ever had abs. In my twenties I was 5'10", 8 and a half stone, so I reckon I'd have seen 'em if I had. Now old, quite a bit heavier, with a dad belly (despite daily running or distance walking), but I still don't reckon there's any abs under there. Cardio-wise I'm pretty fit though.
 
Rooney presently is probably as slim as he's ever been.

Actually Rooney was at his physical best on the pitch when he was at his fattest. I watched him keep up with Ronaldo routinely and saw him outpace a prime Essien who had a head start.

He just had explosive fast twitch muscles.

His main problem now is that he's slowed down and his mind hasn't adapted like Giggs.
 
Rooney and Tevez have both looked pretty "fat" even at their peaks. Didn't seem to affect performance then.
 
Rooney and Tevez have both looked pretty "fat" even at their peaks. Didn't seem to affect performance then.

I think Tevez lost 6-8KG when he went to Italy after they considered him overweight.
 
Adriano what a waste of potential.
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Neville Southall was well known for being big
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Don't agree with that comparison at all, I'd say footballers are more like a 200 metre + sprinter, they need to be explosive so will be more muscular than marathon runners.
They run about 10-12 km each game, so stamina is very important - and additional muscle mass isn't always a plus (look at Ronaldo who became better after he lost some muscles, or Depay doing it the other way round).

But of course footballers need to be much more gifted all-round than the marathon runners - explosive speed, change of direction, agility, jump etc.
 
I don't think so. I've always been small framed. I'm back up to 150 +/- 1-2lbs. Prior to my change in diet I was eating absolute garbage. McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's 2-3 days per week. Drank sweet tea like it was water. Hit the snack bin before and after dinner. I'm surprised I didn't weight 250lbs to be honest. I've always had a high metabolism. Last year I started suffering from bad neck pain and headaches. Doctor sent me to PT. Diagnosis was poor posture at computer. I'm an IT guy so made sense. I spend 8+ hrs a day staring at the computer. Doing the PT I realized I'm was out of shape so I did something about it. Diet made the most sense and easiest to track. Downloaded the Lose It app on my phone, put in a target weight and started tracking what I ate. 4 months later I was where I was comfortable being. Changing diet was hard at first but after I learned what was good vs what is bad it became much easier. I don't track it now. I eat what I want and maintain around 150lbs. I do drink a lot less beer though. :(

edit: 2lbs loss per week is healthy and was my goal.

Yeh. Maybe I just have big bone ;). I was shorter than you, but my lowest weight (when still in college, active, and poor) was 160 lbs. I figure that your high metabolism really helps with the diet though.
 
They run about 10-12 km each game, so stamina is very important - and additional muscle mass isn't always a plus (look at Ronaldo who became better after he lost some muscles, or Depay doing it the other way round).

But of course footballers need to be much more gifted all-round than the marathon runners - explosive speed, change of direction, agility, jump etc.
He did ? I don't think so.
 
He did ? I don't think so.
Well, his end of the 2016/17 season was better than anything else he did before that, in my opinion. Plus you have to count the natural decline of his athletic abilities to that.
 
Well, his end of the 2016/17 season was better than anything else he did before that, in my opinion. Plus you have to count the natural decline of his athletic abilities to that.

Yeah but that is mainly because Zidane managed him well and kept him fresh for the most important part of the season, not because he lost muscles otherwise how would you explain all the previous seasons where he was still an even goalscoring machine. My question was really focused on the so-called muscles your mentioned and not how he finished the season strongly (that i agree with) just to be precise
 
Should have sold rooney for 30 m to chelsea in 2013 and bought griezmann who was moving to atletico.
 
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Tevez is in terrible condition there. I would imagine that's a recent photo as he's looked overweight during his time in Argentina and China.
 
They run about 10-12 km each game, so stamina is very important - and additional muscle mass isn't always a plus (look at Ronaldo who became better after he lost some muscles, or Depay doing it the other way round).

But of course footballers need to be much more gifted all-round than the marathon runners - explosive speed, change of direction, agility, jump etc.

Yeah but that distance is mainly short bursts which is more like a sprinter, plus bale improved when he got bigger and more explosive.
 
Rooney's getting shit in his dedicated thread because of a shirt off picture from his holiday in Ibiza. He has a textbook "dad bod"

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Now, it has to be said, as far as I can remember he's always looked like this.

Here's a pic from when he was still playing for Everton (he's the guy on the left).

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I've always found it crazy that any professional athlete could look anything other than ripped. It just makes no sense to me how you can have a career which involves getting as fit/strong as possible but still somehow conceal your abs. How does that happen?

I remember Mickey Owen had a similarly soft physique but struggle to think of any other footballer who looked the same with his shirt off. Are they both complete outliers? Or this phenomonon more common than you'd think? Can anyone think of any other dad bods making a living as professional footballers?

Without getting to deep, fitness wise but a couple of reasons. Genetics for one, dictate shape of abs. Second thing is, to reveal abs you have to burn fat on top of them. Not as easy as it sounds and can involve eating less calories than you burn for a long period of time. Bodybuilders, for example, do it and quite drastically because they have to. Footballers might operate on a different basis, as in making sure they take in calories to sustain all the work they are doing rather than less.
 
It's simple maths. Rooney is taking in more calories than he can burn to maintain his weight let alone lose weight. Given the fact that he plays a sport that requires a lot of running, he must be eating Big Mac's and drinking Super Size Cokes.
I'm 42 and dropped from 180 to 145 in 4 months just by changing my diet. I'm 5'9". I don't drink soda nor do I eat fast food. I also don't "work out". I maintain a physical lifestyle but am no stranger to sitting on my ass eating a bag of chips while enjoying a couple of beers once in a while. I eat plenty of carbs too.

Bottom line, Rooney eats too much junk.

Yeah, believe that's the case, especially when we don't have a midweek game.
 
Fitness is NOT the same as leanness.

If you run a marathon and burn off 2600 but immediately afterwards eat a 3000 calorie meal, you'll end up both fitter and fatter. It's quite possible to achieve both.

With some athletes, it's actually better for them to carry a spare tyre because low fat levels may hurt their performances. I know that when my body fat percentage dips under 8%, I have less strength. Indeed, most powerlifters are at their strongest with a bit of junk in the trunk.

As long as a footballer's cardiovascular fitness is trained well enough, the aesthetics aren't important. And if being a bit chubby makes them stronger/harder to knock off the ball, more power to them (literally).
 
Surely the question here is what would Rooney look like if he looked after himself like Ronaldo? TBF I doubt we'd see very well defined abs.
 
Fitness is NOT the same as leanness.

If you run a marathon and burn off 2600 but immediately afterwards eat a 3000 calorie meal, you'll end up both fitter and fatter. It's quite possible to achieve both.

With some athletes, it's actually better for them to carry a spare tyre because low fat levels may hurt their performances. I know that when my body fat percentage dips under 8%, I have less strength. Indeed, most powerlifters are at their strongest with a bit of junk in the trunk.

As long as a footballer's cardiovascular fitness is trained well enough, the aesthetics aren't important. And if being a bit chubby makes them stronger/harder to knock off the ball, more power to them (literally).

Is the main error being made. And mistaking it with mechanical efficiency, in regards to the human body and sport. But there's no telling gym buffs.
 
rooney never had abs even when he was at his best. and how does abs have something to do with your fitness level? i run a few marathons a year and dont have abs as i dont ever train them.
 
rooney never had abs even when he was at his best. and how does abs have something to do with your fitness level? i run a few marathons a year and dont have abs as i dont ever train them.

It's not really about the abs with Rooney. I mean, there is almost zero chest definition, you could almost argue that he got some very slight puffy moob action going on! It's just not the stuff of a pro athlete. That said, I feel slightly bad for "body shaming" him :lol:

Then I remember he's paid atleast 200k a week to just eat right and keep fit.
 
rooney never had abs even when he was at his best. and how does abs have something to do with your fitness level? i run a few marathons a year and dont have abs as i dont ever train them.

Not that I'm on either sides (I don't really care, Rooney always looked like shit) but you're not a professional footballer/athlete en general either, are you?

I think it's a bit like with models here. A model can be pretty in photos, pose fantastically well and all that but if she's got dirt under her nails, spaghetti stains on her blouse and a questionable smell, and she tries to pose for say, Vogue, then questions will be asked.
 
The greatest NFL player of all time:

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It's not a bad photo. That's what he looks like.
 
As we've had one United Ballon d'Or winner in the thread, here are another couple. From a time when weight training meant a pint in each hand.

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If you run a marathon and burn off 2600 but immediately afterwards eat a 3000 calorie meal, you'll end up both fitter and fatter. It's quite possible to achieve both.

With some athletes, it's actually better for them to carry a spare tyre because low fat levels may hurt their performances. I know that when my body fat percentage dips under 8%, I have less strength. Indeed, most powerlifters are at their strongest with a bit of junk in the trunk.

As long as a footballer's cardiovascular fitness is trained well enough, the aesthetics aren't important. And if being a bit chubby makes them stronger/harder to knock off the ball, more power to them (literally).

It's like you read a book and turned all that you learned into vague concepts.

All 3 of those points are wrong. Conceptually correct but factually wrong.
 
i run a few marathons a year and dont have abs as i dont ever train them.

Losing weight is the greatest thing any marathoner can do. If you want to run to the best of your ability, you should be seeing your abs.

It's loosely accepted that (to a point) 1lb is worth 2 seconds a mile for the trained non-elite male. You can get faster, for free.
 
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Losing weight is the greatest thing any marathoner can do. If you want to run to the best of your ability, you should be seeing your abs.

It's loosely accepted that (to a point) 1lb is worth 2 seconds a mile for the trained non-elite male. You can get faster, for free.
Footballers aren't marathon runners.

It's like you read a book and turned all that you learned into vague concepts.
 
Footballers aren't marathon runners.

It's like you read a book and turned all that you learned into vague concepts.

He said he ran marathons and said he never had abs. I qualified that by saying he could run much faster by being lean enough to have visible abs. While leanness is not a demonstrator of fitness, for marathon runners at least it's an illustrator of being in racing shape.

It's like you read information and (again) gleaned an incorrect message from it.
 
Fitness is NOT the same as leanness.

If you run a marathon and burn off 2600 but immediately afterwards eat a 3000 calorie meal, you'll end up both fitter and fatter. It's quite possible to achieve both.

With some athletes, it's actually better for them to carry a spare tyre because low fat levels may hurt their performances. I know that when my body fat percentage dips under 8%, I have less strength. Indeed, most powerlifters are at their strongest with a bit of junk in the trunk.

As long as a footballer's cardiovascular fitness is trained well enough, the aesthetics aren't important. And if being a bit chubby makes them stronger/harder to knock off the ball, more power to them (literally).
Spot on here imo. I've experienced the same as you're talking about when body fat gets too low when I was cutting weight for wrestling. I see it regularly in my wrestlers as well when they get too light.