Football records that will never be broken

Red the Bear said:
Close to impossible but still possible by definition.

Messi got 50 goals in a single league season once, back when their league was quality as well so a player of his level in a team of that level and a storm of favorable events and the record will be broken.
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That's it though, you require a player who is basically the GOAT to do it. :lol:
 
Arsenal player 70 games in the 1979/80 season, reached 2 cup finals and lost them both.

The league calendar having had 42 games and cup tournaments having had replays makes it so that unless a change occurs in the format of either the league or other cup competitions the record will stand.
 
Arsenal going an entire premier league season without defeat
 
Red the Bear said:
Close to impossible but still possible by definition.

Messi got 50 goals in a single league season once, back when their league was quality as well so a player of his level in a team of that level and a storm of favorable events and the record will be broken.
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The thread isn’t about what is possible. More what is likely.
 
Red the Bear said:
Arsenal player 70 games in the 1979/80 season, reached 2 cup finals and lost them both.

The league calendar having had 42 games and cup tournaments having had replays makes it so that unless a change occurs in the format of either the league or other cup competitions the record will stand.
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I think it's possible now although it would take an extraordinary season. Includes the new Club World Cup.

Community Shield x 1
UEFA Super Cup x 1
League x 38
Champions League new format up to 17 if you finish 9th-24th in the league phase, otherwise it's 15 to go all the way.
FA Cup x 6
Carabao Cup x 6
Intercontinental Cup x 1
Club World Cup x 7

77 I think?
 
dazjoe said:
Pele with 3 World Cup winner medals as a player. Could be matched, but someone winning 4? Only really happening if a country wins 4 in a row, which I don't ever see happening. Even winning 4 from 5 would be almost impossible.
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This is a great one, and it speaks to how amazing Brazil were in that period. They won 3 out of 4 World Cups. THREE OUT OF FOUR.

The World Cup is quite clearly the hardest competition in football to win, not least because you have so few chances. Winning back to back titles is also rare, I think it has happened twice, and the last time was 60+ years ago when that Brazil team did it.

So for a player to match or break that 3 winners medals record of Pele's would be very tough. It needs to be basically the greatest player of all time with the greatest team(s) of all time, and those things usually don't coincide in international football.
 
Kwabs said:
This is a great one, and it speaks to how amazing Brazil were in that period. They won 3 out of 4 World Cups. THREE OUT OF FOUR.

The World Cup is quite clearly the hardest competition in football to win, not least because you have so few chances. Winning back to back titles is also rare, I think it has happened twice, and the last time was 60+ years ago when that Brazil team did it.

So for a player to match or break that 3 winners medals record of Pele's would be very tough. It needs to be basically the greatest player of all time with the greatest team(s) of all time, and those things usually don't coincide in international football.
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Cafu and Ronaldo almost did it. 94 and 02 wins and lost the final in 98.
 
P-Ro said:
After this season Chelsea will be the only club to have won all 5 major European competitions: Champions League, Europa League, Europa Conference League, Super Cup and Cup Winners Cup.
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Setting yourself up for a flurry of quotes here
 
SilentWitness said:
Cafu and Ronaldo almost did it. 94 and 02 wins and lost the final in 98.
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Well there you go. An almost GOAT player in R9 and a great evolving team, that didn't even need him to play in 1994, because they had another all time great player in Romario (just like Brazil had Garrincha in '62). And the 90s iteration still couldn't do it.

These are the kind of levels we're talking about.
 
1992/1993 division one league champions.
 
B20 said:
Liverpool in 79 conceded 16 goals in a 42 game season, which is a better record when adjusted for games played. So kinda broken years before Chelsea's record was ever "set".
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Doesn't come close for me as that was in the days when Joey Jones and Emlyn Hughes spent the last 20 mins passing the ball back to Ray Clemence to see out a game. The pass back rule changed everything in the early 90s and makes Chelseas record much better when they didn't have the safety net of passing back to the keeper for him to pick it up and take the sting out of the game for the last 20 mins. I know it is difficult to compare records from different eras as rules change but that was a rule that made a huge difference.
 
Chipper said:
I think it's possible now although it would take an extraordinary season. Includes the new Club World Cup.

Community Shield x 1
UEFA Super Cup x 1
League x 38
Champions League new format up to 17 if you finish 9th-24th in the league phase, otherwise it's 15 to go all the way.
FA Cup x 6
Carabao Cup x 6
Intercontinental Cup x 1
Club World Cup x 7

77 I think?
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You are correct, I didn't account for the added cl and club world cup games.

Would love to see a team to go all the way without having anything to show for it, unless that's us of course.
 
They'll all go, eventually. Except for the Cagliari one they only conceded 11 goals in a 30-game season. That's because the laws of the game have changed now, it's not the same sport to a large degree. Much easier to defend when gk could pick up back passes were allowed.
 
Red Star One said:
What are some of the football records that make your mind boggle and that you don’t expect to be beaten in your lifetime? Which one seems the most unbreakable? Couple of ideas:
- Just Fontaine scoring 13 goals in a single World Cup (6 matches)
- Chelsea 04/05 conceding only 15 league goals all season
- Messi 91 goals in a calendar year
- Madrid 3 consecutive CL wins
- Lewandowski 5 goals in 9 minutes
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Ajax did this in 71, 72 and 73, followed by Bayern Munich who also did it in 74, 75 and 76.

It's the reason that Ajax are allowed the '4' on their UCL badge as it is only clubs who have won it 5x or more, or clubs who have won 3 in a row that can display the number.
 
Maradona fouls on per minutes ratio in the world cup is a peculiar one but it's up there, of you don't count 1994 Messi participated in 2 more editions and still didn't match his total record.

It's a hard one to beat.
 
cotumely said:
Chelsea’s 86 Premier League home games unbeaten.
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That takes a unique mix of 1) having a great side. 2)Having an extremely defensive manager who hates seeing his team conceding a goal, more than he loves seeing his team score.3) not going up against a team that gets near or sets record points totals,which allows a team to accept draws ,instead of risking a loss by trying to win every game,which is what is needed if the other team keep winning constantly.

This very similar to how the invincibles record happened.1)arsenal were a great side.2) Wenger partway through the season became more defensive minded and accepting of lots of draws 3)they could accept lots of draws to get the invincibles record,without risking not winning the prem because they never needed to get above 90 points.

This is why the invincibles record is very overrated.Arsenal fans think that because it only happened once that it is the most amazing record.The reason it only happened once is purely because that arsenal side is the only side to specifically go for it.Only afew sides have been capable of it,but out of those few sides only arsenal were in a position to accept so many draws at the expense of wins.(That 95 point mourinho side was fully capable of it,but they won the league quite early and they were keen to set the points total record,which is legitimately a great record to hold.

As for the invincibles record,90 points is equal to 90 points,no matter how its achieved.Whether its with 12 draws and 26 wins ,or 30 wins and 8 losses.

Imagine a title race where arsenal are on 89 points with one game left ( undefeated with 26 wins and 11 draws)and chelsea are on 88 points with one game remaining(26 wins,10 draws,1 loss) ....then arsenal draw their last game,but chelsea win their last game.

Arsenal would be invincible with 90 points,but chelsea would have 91 points.So who lifts the prem in this plausable situation?if the invincible record is so great then do the premier league 'sorry chelsea,but even though you got more points than them,arsenal went unbeaten,so they win the trophy'.
 
Klopper76 said:
Derby's 11 points in 07/08 will take some beating. I don't think we'll ever see anyone finish lower than that.
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MaMa given red said:
Was just about to post this.

That Derby team really were woeful! They were terrible defensively even in the Championship the year before but managed to score quite a few goals and sneak up through the play offs.
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Funny how this record could be broken in a few months time.

Southampton may just do it.
 
Celtic winning the European Cup with 11 Scotsmen.

West Ham (or any English club) winning a European trophy with 11 Englishmen (1966 ECWC).
 
Bayern Munich's record goalscorer, 565 by Gerd Muller set 46 years ago.

Even if a young player came through Bayern's academy now and scored 35 a season it would take him until the 2040s to break it.
 
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