Gaming Football Manager 2025 | Delayed til March 2025
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They also took the create a club mod as well which sorted the Maguire/shaw/Casemiro problem year after year. Ill buy it to keep to the collection dating way back to 93. However I'll probably stick to fm24
What a bugger. That game alongside redcafe were the two things I loved to spend my free time on when there was no family around
You can delegate responsibilities for pretty much everything, and basically ease your way in to all the changes.
There's also a ton of youtubers who explain the basics.
I think the match engine was mainly graphical. It was already one of the better things about FM24.
Currently it seems like the main thing they've worked on/struggled with is the UI change
The match engine is what determines what tactics work isn't it? It will obviously have improved graphics, but I'm expecting (hoping) that there are a better variety of tactics that work and that you aren't watching the same goals again and again.
As long as my tried and trusted tactic of Steam Workshop - Most Subscribed still works then i'm happy.
I literally only play this game to be a transfer muppet and see my regens destroy teams.
I don’t play any of that so really not bothered as long as the game works.
The social media screen was handy for spotting regents that were doing well actually.
The social media screen was handy for spotting regents that were doing well actually.
It's more so that they're stripping all that back but not making much forward progress. Also the more they remove and fans just accept the more they'll feel justified and continue to pump out a game that should be Miles better than it is.
Pun intended?
Yes.Pun intended?
Find it really odd that we’ve seen absolutely nothing of the new engine yet. Bit of a worrying sign.
Have you not heard? They've removed the 3D match engine for FM25.
The switch over to the new game engine proved more difficult than expected, and so they're hoping to have it back by FM26.
Nah, more likely to just release it in a completely unplayable state, charge £60 for the privilege of letting the playerbase do quality control for a year and have something resembling a finished product next year. Maybe.
2027: “Only 3.5% of our player base used Women’s football so we’ll be removing it from the game”.
This "only x % of players use this feature so we don't feel bad removing it" thing is really odd.
They'll be removing leagues and teams from being playable before long, just to save themselves the hassle of keeping them updated.
Wait.. are they seriously removing the weight attribute because of the introduction of womens football?
Does seem like it.Wait.. are they seriously removing the weight attribute because of the introduction of womens football?
https://www.footballmanager.com/news/development-update-football-manager-25-0
"As such, we can now share a change we’ve made to all FM25 player profiles: a player’s weight will no longer be visible.
Through the creation of our Women's Football database, we discovered that while the weight of male athletes can change a bit month to month, women’s body types are very different from men’s and their weight fluctuates a lot more, often weekly.
This perspective encouraged us to review the wider game, much like we have with all other areas, and we’ve ultimately decided to no longer show weight for any players in FM25. A very basic measurement will still be included under the hood, but it won’t be visible on the front end anymore."
Social media removing is a tad disappointing. Yeah it suffered from being repetitive and predictable after a while, but it did make the world seem a bit more fleshed out. It would be nice if the tweets were thought about a bit more and tied into other aspects of the game. The more of the fans support you had the more forgiving/positive the tweets would be for example. I can appreciate the effort it takes to build a list of tweets long enough that players don't notice the same ones coming up again and again but you'd think with modern AI that would be an achievable task.
International Management is a really strange removal. Even if few people played it, it was already there. Is it that difficult to maintain? Is it a resource hog that removing helps "lighten" the game? I personally have played it once in the last 5 iterations so I won't miss it, I just don't know why they would remove it.
The removal of features like this isn't a deal breaker for me, but where is the progress in the areas that matter?
You could keep literally every single feature the same as in FM24, build on/improve them (like make touchline shouts actually do something) and spend a whole year nailing the match engine and improvement of AI and you'd be moving forward. Instead we have a year of what I imagine had a lot of resources spent on introducing womens football (likely to be played less than the aforementioned removed International Management) and what else exactly? FM25 was supposed to be the "big step up" but 5 pages in and I can't seem to find a single post excited about anything.
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FM had been producing different versions of the same shit for years. Let's face it there's hardly any difference between FM22, FM23 and FM24. Irrespective of that they had enough time to work on the side on a new game engine and produce a new game without having to strip it to the bones. I guess that's what monopoly does. It makes companies complacent which in turn ends up treating customers like shit
FM has always been a bit awkward as a game concept. The thing there that was (and still is, tbf) extremely good compared to any competition was the database, not really the UI or any gameplay elements, but it is a shame just how little pressure there is on improving those aspects.
Are you positive about that? All the tests I've seen point to complete opposite (I do like this one in particular).
No, I just remember reading about it. Highly likely it was some fluff from SI.
"However we now have body paint and face paint for your manager, which we believe will be great success"
Someone leaked a screenshot of the new UI and main screen from FM25 on Twitter.
Would've appreciated the ability to pressure the board into resigning at United for the last decade or so.Someone leaked a screenshot of the new UI and main screen from FM25 on Twitter.
Just watched Zealand's video about it and he made a good point. In respect of the women's game being added...most people will know it due to international football rather than club football so would perhaps want to be England or US national team manager but you can't even do that now.
Just watched Zealand's video about it and he made a good point. In respect of the women's game being added...most people will know it due to international football rather than club football so would perhaps want to be England or US national team manager but you can't even do that now.
Yeah I thought the same. The Olympics and world cup are huge in women's football, yet there'll be no option to play them.
I do wonder what leagues they'll add for women's football, there's an absolute chasm from the top to bottom in most leagues. Lyon have only lost 3 games in 8 years in the league for example.
If they do the womens game properly it could be decent. Like starting unemployed, getting a job as Forrest Green women's manager, doing well then getting Forrest Green men's job etc would be good. Having women players on there would also be fine but they will never do it as in reality the vast majority of the womens physical stats would need to be 1 and 2, compared to the guys stats. I can only imagine men and women's will basically be two separate games, and then what is the point as nobody will play it.
My biggest issue with Fm is that it's just such an investment. I'd basically need to spend about £1000 on a laptop just to play the game. I wish they'd put some real time in to a properly good Ipad or phone version. FM2016 touch was pretty good but the later ones I tried are dreadful. Hardly any players, poor regen system, certain fun bits missing and other boring bits included (Having to manually go through and rest every player after every game as they can't play 2 games in a week).
Also, removing international is a horrible choice. Euros and world cup are literally the biggest thing in the football calendar. I'd quite often dip in to international management for a one off tournament. Removing challenges, repetitive media stuff before and after every game, Having to click "Leave to Physio" or "Send to specialist" for every injury etc is the stuff to remove. The mind boggles at the decisions some companies make.
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There is a lot of criticism about the game that's fair but that's not true unless you're running every league and facepack available.
I disagree to be honest. I tried it a couple of years ago. I bought a laptop for about £300 quid which apparently met all the criteria they needed. I ran it with England, Italy, Spain and German leagues. Nothing fancy.
It worked but it was very slow, I gave up after about a month and the laptop has gathered dust ever since. I know that laptop more than likely won't be good enough to run the new version.
There's no way you're struggling to play that game on a 300 pound laptop. My nephew has a garbage laptop that's probably even worse than the one you do, and it's fine.
In all likelihood, there's something in the new game database settings that you're choosing that's making the database sufficiently high to stress your laptop. Next time you do a new game, check under advanced settings and make sure that you haven't chose custom database with lots of real players, or too many lower leagues available when selecting multiple playable leagues. There's definitely something you're choosing that's causing this. FM is a game that is specifically designed in its current engine to run on super old PC's.
Yeah, no offence Hughes but something doesn't sound right if you're struggling to play on a £300 laptop.
Interesting, I might try it again. I do play with real players as that's half the fun. Will try again and let you know how it goes.
The lack of create a club is a big loss for me. I stopped playing for a few years, and then picked FM24 up again a few months ago. But my go to game is to create my own club in the lower leagues and bring them up to the top.
Pity we can't have mens, womens and international football. But going with mens and womens seems fair to me. Personally way more excited for womens than I am sad at not being able managing international. (There will still be international games right?).
There are options to use caching data to decrease page load times and using software as the rendering mode that dramatically speed up the game. Both are found in preferences. Using a continue game timeout also helps make it feel quicker between transfer windows.
All of these are options I just chuck on at the begining of my first save and they stay there for every save thereafter until you change them. Never had any issues, and my laptops have generally been better at frying eggs than loading stuff.
They've said it will simulate in the background.
I'm actually wondering how they solve the relationship between Ability and Reputation without having a hard split between the men's and women's games that you can't cross.
The women's game isn't as reputable as the men's game, so it should be the case that moving from, for example, United's women to United's men should have the squad questioning your credentials. However, as the game currently plays, top players tend to want to be managed by managers with high reputations, so are the women's players at clubs like Chelsea and Barcelona just going to kick off if you're not at Pep level reputation, or are they going to give someone like Emma Hayes a massive boost that would make her suitable for the top men's jobs?
Only thing I can think of is having different reputations based on your standing in the men's and women's game, where hitting a certain point in the men's game effectively maxes out your standing in the women's.
Different competitions and competition types already have different reputation values and it already kind of functions like this. You can't get close to max rep from managing in other continents than Europe for example in current FM's.
I know that.
When they add the women's leagues, the best leagues and the best teams won't come close to comparing to the best of the men's when it comes to reputation, but the way the game currently links ability and reputation, the best players expect to be coached by high reputation managers. However, the best women's managers will not actually be that reputable.
As I see it, they either need to add a separate reputation score for the women's game, or rate the women's players reputation and ability as if they were part of the men's game, and I really can't see them doing the latter, because they'll all be shit. Otherwise you're going to have Lauren James kicking off because she's not being managed by Guardiola, or Sarina Wiegman being in line to manage Mbappe and Bellingham at Real Madrid.
Ah, I see, I misread that. Yea, that would require some tinkering to adjust women's CA to men's CA.