Gaming FM - Owner Experiment - Sign ups - 5 places all taken now

Solius

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Ok so bear with me here. This may not work at all but I have the outlines of an idea. I want 5 regular players ideally.

Please read all of this before signing up.

You are going to be owners of clubs in FM. Each 'owner' has £2bn to start with.

The first step is to purchase a club. The price of each club is determined by their value at the start of the game and includes the debt that club has currently incurred. Once you buy the club, all debt is wiped.

These are your options:

ClubDivisionReputationStadium SizeAverage AttendanceTraining FacilitiesYouth FacilitiesValueDebtTOTAL TO BUY CLUB
LutonPrem600011,3009857GreatGood£29.5m£117m£146.5m
Sheffield UtdPrem620032,60928,654GoodAverage£105m£43.5m£148.5m
West BromChampionship595026,68823,094GreatGreat£198m£20m£218m
MiddlesbroughChampionship595034,74626,012SuperbExcellent£41m£142m£183m
SunderlandChampionship590048,70738,915SuperbExcellent£64m£15m£79m
BlackburnChampionship585031,36314,816GreatGreat£20.5m£213m£233.5m
SwanseaChampionship580021,08816,821GoodGood£32m£24m£56m
StokeChampionship570030,56020,570ExcellentGreat£69m£40m£109m
Sheffield WedsChampionship570039,81225,378AverageAdequate£11.5m£141m£152.5m
CoventryChampionship570032,60920,385GreatGreat£29.5m£ -£29.5m
Bristol CityChampionship570026,38720,551ExcellentGreat£31.5m£8.75m£40.25m
QPRChampionship565018,22414,977GreatAverage£50m£41.5m£91.5m
PrestonChampionship565023,40416,119ExcellentAverage£17.5m£325k£18m
MillwallChampionship565020,14614,767GoodAverage£24m£92m£116m
IpswichChampionship565030,31126,184GreatGood£23m£240k£24m
HullChampionship565025,58621,000GreatAverage£29.5m£275k£30m
HuddersfieldChampionship565024,59018,978GreatGood£41m£28.5m£69.5m
CardiffChampionship565033,28019,455GreatGood£45.5m£92m£137.5m
PlymouthChampionship540017,90016,335AdequateAdequate£27m£1.9m£29m
RotheramChampionship535012,08810,515AverageBasic£11.75m£650k£12.5m
PortsmouthLeague One520020,50018,064GreatAdequate£20m£ -£20m
BoltonLeague One525028,72318,814GreatGood£19.5m£ -£19.5m
DerbyLeague One540033,59727,259ExcellentGood£71m£ -£71m

So you will have to make your choice carefully. Thinking about all the different pros and cons of each. Lower down the leagues is cheaper, but they may take longer to build up. Others are more expensive but give you a leg up to start.

Your bids for clubs should go to me directly via PM, and once all players have put an offer in I will assign clubs. If a club has more than one offer, losing bidders will be told of the higher offer and given the chance to bid again, until the highest bid wins.

Once you all have a club, the save starts.

The season will have three stages where the game stops and you may use actions.

During each stop/stage you must let me know any intentions to sack/hire, or sign a player as it will have an impact if another player also goes for the same manager/player. You may do this publicly in the thread or via PM to me. The changes will be announced in the thread once settled.

Stage 1: Summer Window

This is the start of the game and all future summer windows (so July 1st-ish).

Owners can:
  • Purchase one player for their in-game value (if they are something like 50 - 70m it will be the middle point, so 60m) if the club has the money. Player ability may not exceed 10 CA of current best player (i.e if your best player is rated 133 CA, maximum you can buy is 143 CA)
  • Sell one player in the team for their in-game value. (I will move them to an interested club or just randomise it if no interest) You may also sell the one player to another Caf owner if you can agree on a price.
  • Decide whether to inject money into the transfer/wage budgets.
  • Sack the manager & hire a new one.
  • Take money out of the club bank balance (to add back to your personal one)
  • Upgrade facilities
  • Request league player stats or player screens (I will be using a skin that hides any CA/PA and the 1-20 stats so you will need to go on form for unknowns)

Stage 2: Christmas

Around Christmas Day to New Year.

Owners can:
  • Sack the manager & hire a new one.
  • Request league player stats or player screens
  • Inject any funds into the transfer/wage budget.
  • Take money out of the club bank balance (to add back to your personal one)

Stage 3: Early April

Around end of March to early April, just before any potential run-ins.

Owners can:

  • Sack the manager & hire a new one.
  • Request league player stats or player screens
  • Take money out of the club bank balance (to add back to your personal one)

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Manager sackings/hirings rules

- May only sack twice during a season. Cannot do so in all three windows.
- May only appoint a manager at max 300 higher than your club's current rep. (Can stretch higher but every 100 higher in rep they are is £10m compensation. To a max of 500 more rep.)
- Compensation if they're at a club = their rep doubled in millions plus their remaining wage for their contract (i.e 8500 rep manager on 200k a week with a year left = £8.5m x 2 (17m) plus £200k x 52 (10.4m) = a total of £27.4m to appoint that manager.
- Their wage will carry over from what it is at their current club.
- If you wish to hire a manager currently at another Caf owner's club, you must negotiate that with them.

Player signing rules

- You only have input on the one summer signing.
- Player ability may not exceed 10 CA of current best player (i.e if your best player is rated 133 CA, maximum you can buy is 143 CA) - I can tell you what parameters you are working with, and if you request a player who is out of that range I'll just let you know it's not possible.
- You may request top scorer stats, assist stats, etc.. for leagues but I'm assuming for the first few years at least you'll have players in mind so don't swarm me with requests if it can be helped.
- All other ability stats won't be shown with the skin I'll use. If you want to sign up for this game please pm me the word tomato so I know you actually read all this instead of just trying to be first.
- You may just ask me to find you a player in which case I'll just randomly pick someone in that range if you give me maybe a few things like position and age range you would prefer.
- If you want a player from another Caf owned team you must negotiate with that owner.
- Your AI manager will negotiate the rest of your buys/sales.

Upgrading Facilities

You may upgrade the facilities in the summer window.

Costs are:

4567891011121314151617181920
Training Facilities100K200K400K750K1M2M5M8M15M25M50M80M115M140M190M250M350M
Youth Facilities50K100K150K300K500K750K1M2M5M10M30M75M90M110M150M175M225M
Junior Coaching50K100K150K300K500K750K1M2M5M10M30M50M70M100M120M150M175M
Youth Recruitment25K50K300K500K1M2M5M8M10M20M40M70M100M125M150M200M250M


These are incremental, so if you already have a level 14 training facility it will only cost you the £30m between £50m and £80m to upgrade to 15. If your facilities decline, it will only cost 10% of that initial level to re-upgrade. So £35m to go back to the top training facilities (£350m cost), for example. And if you have in training facilities and want to jump straight to 20 it will cost you £350m.

Stadium capacity increases are also incremental.


15k20k25k30k35k40k45k50k55k60k65k70k80k90k100k
Stadium10M20M30M75M150M200M250M300M400M550M800M1BN1.2BN1.5BN2BN


Other things to note

- I cannot guarantee the AI wont do stuff during the sim process. Managers might be auto sacked/hired. Facility upgrades might happen, etc.. If this does happen it won't come out of your budget and in the case of a manager being hired you may sack them without it being part of your two sackings a season quota. I will try to have them on long term frozen contracts so it's harder for AI to fire them but no guarantees.
- If you do not regularly participate, the game cannot really work. Only sign up if you have the time please. It shouldn't take too much of it but you'd need to be around during each update (I will tag you) so you can make any decisions. If the game moves on without you contributing a couple of times I will replace you.

Please read all of that and sign-up below. Not sure when I'll start it but likely this week. Depends how quick everyone gets it and responds.

Also let me know anything I haven't thought of or any improvements to that you think would be a better way of going about it.

Sign ups:

1. Samid
2. altodevil
3. TheCat
4. SilentWitness
5. BD
 
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Solius

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I can confirm nobody has read the whole thing yet so nobody is in.
 

Solius

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I'll put you all on the list for now then
 

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As long as we get a half day for example to reply at the prompts I'll put the time in. Just can't promise to reply in an hour while working
 

Solius

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As long as we get a half day for example to reply at the prompts I'll put the time in. Just can't promise to reply in an hour while working
I'm thinking I'll give that day/24 hours. You could also let me know future actions if you won't be online, like "if we're bottom half at christmas I sack my manager and hire X" or something.
 

Solius

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All 5 in now. Only two have confirmed they've fully read the whole thing but I'll allow it for the others. Unless someone already in knows they won't have the time.
 

altodevil

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nimic should be involved too. I always do well in his things.
 

BD

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If poor wee lamb Seb doesn't get a spot, he can be a co-owner with me.
 

Solius

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Lots of bidding going on at the moment. Two clubs look secure but will need to see where the eventual losing bidders move to once they don’t get their first choice.