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Marching

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.....50" Plasma (unless you know that LCD are better)....will be used mainly as a TV but also for playing on the Wii.

Not looking to spend a shedload on it for the sake of it so not over £2000 and preferably well under.

Ta.
 
manxmanc said:
Some nice one's here:

http://www.play.com/Search.aspx?sea...ing=50+TV&page=search&pa=search&go.x=0&go.y=0
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Cheers...too much choice makes it confusing....I read somewhere that Panasonic Viera's were good but what's the difference between..

Panasonic Viera 50'' TH-50PZ700 HD 1080p Freeview Widescreen Plasma TV (With Pedestal Stand) at £1199

Panasonic Viera 50" TH-50PZ70 HD 1080p Freeview Widescreen Plasma TV at £1499

Panasonic Viera 50" TH-50 PZ80 B HD 1080P Freeview Widescreen Plasma TV at £1399

Panasonic Viera 50" TH-50PZ81 HD 1080p Freesat Widescreen Plasma TV £1599

Is the last one really worth £400 more than the first?
 
Marching said:
I thought 1080 was the way to go?
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Nah, 1080p is basically the carbon copy of 720p (quality of picture wise) and would just waste you money but if you would like to spend the extra quid and don't really mind about money. Then it is your choice.
 
Red Pavan said:
Nah, 1080p is basically the carbon copy of 720p (quality of picture wise) and would just waste you money but if you would like to spend the extra quid and don't really mind about money. Then it is your choice.
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I'm from Yorkshire so spending money without good reason is not an option ;)
 
Marching said:
Cheers...too much choice makes it confusing....I read somewhere that Panasonic Viera's were good but what's the difference between..

Panasonic Viera 50'' TH-50PZ700 HD 1080p Freeview Widescreen Plasma TV (With Pedestal Stand) at £1199

Panasonic Viera 50" TH-50PZ70 HD 1080p Freeview Widescreen Plasma TV at £1499

Panasonic Viera 50" TH-50 PZ80 B HD 1080P Freeview Widescreen Plasma TV at £1399

Panasonic Viera 50" TH-50PZ81 HD 1080p Freesat Widescreen Plasma TV £1599

Is the last one really worth £400 more than the first?
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I'll let someone more 'techy' explain, I think it's to do with contrast and pixels.

Marching said:
I thought 1080 was the way to go?
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In my opinion, yes.

The thing about it being a carbon copy is bollocks, its just there's not as much material recorded in 1080 yet, but with the like of blu-ray etc its increasing fast.
 
Marching said:
Cheers...too much choice makes it confusing....I read somewhere that Panasonic Viera's were good but what's the difference between..

Panasonic Viera 50'' TH-50PZ700 HD 1080p Freeview Widescreen Plasma TV (With Pedestal Stand) at £1199

Panasonic Viera 50" TH-50PZ70 HD 1080p Freeview Widescreen Plasma TV at £1499

Panasonic Viera 50" TH-50 PZ80 B HD 1080P Freeview Widescreen Plasma TV at £1399

Panasonic Viera 50" TH-50PZ81 HD 1080p Freesat Widescreen Plasma TV £1599

Is the last one really worth £400 more than the first?
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The new Panasonic Th-50 Pz800 is meant to be brilliant. I'll probably get it next week. You can pick'em up for around £1400.
 
I mean, my eyes, god my eyes.

wii1080p-1.jpg
 
WeasteDevil said:
Well, sort of, but I'm just shocked at how Wii output would look blown up to 50".

Money no object? I present: Pioneer PDP-LX5090 Kuro
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And if you can cough up a little bit more the Pioneer KRP-500A

http://www.petertyson.co.uk/ebuttonz/ebz_product_pages/pioneer_krp500a.shtml?fshop

Might want to wait until January and someone might have it up for even cheaper. Not sure if this one has speakers with it though.

Spoonatov said:
The new Panasonic Th-50 Pz800 is meant to be brilliant. I'll probably get it next week. You can pick'em up for around £1400.
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You still haven't bought one yet? I remember mentioning some TV to you a while back.
 
JazzG said:
And if you can cough up a little bit more the Pioneer KRP-500A

http://www.petertyson.co.uk/ebuttonz/ebz_product_pages/pioneer_krp500a.shtml?fshop

Might want to wait until January and someone might have it up for even cheaper. Not sure if this one has speakers with it though.



You still haven't bought one yet? I remember mentioning some TV to you a while back.
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Been double minded for ages. But I'm definitely getting a plasma instead of an LCD. If I don'yt get one next week, shoot me. Please. Have to say, they've come down in price. I bought a 36" Wega for £2,500 7 years ago. The biggest CRT at the time. Great TV.
 
Spoonatov said:
How do you lot rate the one I've mentioned??
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Dunno dude, haven't really looked at Plasmas that closely in recent times but personally I'd cough up more for the Pioneer if I was buying one, just love the looks and the quality of their Plasma just are second to none. When I last looked Fujitsu and NEC had good ones as well, Panasonic also were ok as but not top quality but I don't know about these newer ones.

www.avforums.com is the best place to look for advice and reviews. They have given that Pioneer one I linked a beaming review.

Spoonatov said:
Been double minded for ages. But I'm definitely getting a plasma instead of an LCD. If I donl;t get one next week, shot me. Please. Have to say, they've come down in prices. I bought a 36" Wega for £2,500 7 years ago. The biggest CRT at the time. Great TV.
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Best thing to do is to buy and never look at another review or magazine until you want to buy another. Don't buy it next week, just give yourself the next month as I'm sure someone or another will have a sale on so you could pick up a good deal.

Yeah I had one of those CRTs as well, that thing fecking weighted like 70KG, it was a Sony one but yeah the quality on that fecker was amazing. Still got it actually, at the time I was like woah this TV is too big. Looks tiny now lol.
 
So, Jazz, why are the Pioneers better than the others? Better contrast levels? or do they have extra techy stuff and all that(you can tell that I'm a proper techie can;t you)
 
Spoonatov said:
So, Jazz, why are the Pioneers better than the others? Better contrast levels? or do they have extra techy stuff and all that(you can tell that I'm a proper techie can;t you)
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The contrast and black levels. I think that they have closed their own plasma panel plant now though and use Panasonic ones. The TV isn't just about the panel though, it's the processing behind it that counts. For example, Sony and Samsung share their LCD panels, but a Bravia is a Bravia because of the pre and post processing that it does to the image.
 
Spoonatov said:
How do you lot rate the one I've mentioned??
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Was actually in Currys earlier with a mate who was buying a HDTV and I was looking at that Panasonic one. Seems to be very good, certainly better than the Pioneers (seriously they are way overpriced) but still not as good as the Samsung, it's far and away the best Plasma under £2,000 that I've seen.
 
cina said:
Was actually in Currys earlier with a mate who was buying a HDTV and I was looking at that Panasonic one. Seems to be very good, certainly better than the Pioneers (seriously they are way overpriced) but still not as good as the Samsung, it's far and away the best Plasma under £2,000 that I've seen.
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I was checking out the Samsung PS50A656 and it looked mint. I'll probably get a Panasonic though. You can pick up Panasonic TH50PZ80 for around £900. That has to be good value for money.

WeasteDevil said:
The contrast and black levels. I think that they have closed their own plasma panel plant now though and use Panasonic ones. The TV isn't just about the panel though, it's the processing behind it that counts. For example, Sony and Samsung share their LCD panels, but a Bravia is a Bravia because of the pre and post processing that it does to the image.
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What have you got, Weastey?
 
Spoonatov said:
I was checking out the Samsung PS50A656 and it looked mint. I'll probably get a Panasonic though. You can pick up Panasonic TH50PZ80 for around £900. That has to be good value for money.
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Yeah, in fairness, that's a great TV for a price like that. Can't really disagree!
 
Spoony said:
So, Jazz, why are the Pioneers better than the others? Better contrast levels? or do they have extra techy stuff and all that(you can tell that I'm a proper techie can;t you)
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WeasteDevil said:
The contrast and black levels. I think that they have closed their own plasma panel plant now though and use Panasonic ones. The TV isn't just about the panel though, it's the processing behind it that counts. For example, Sony and Samsung share their LCD panels, but a Bravia is a Bravia because of the pre and post processing that it does to the image.
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Weaste he summed it up well there, they really are top quality TVs and like with all premium brands you do pay a bit extra for the name but it is backed up by the quality.

WeasteDevil said:
I've still got my 32" WEGA, but as you mentioned that was back in the day when Sony was the king of the TV manufacturers. The Trinitron tube is second to none.
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Yeah they were a different class, around that time there was simply nothing even close and even now the quality of them still stands out but obviously the TV is now dated and doesn't have the high definition inputs etc. Also the TVs were as bulky as feck, they just look so out of place now in a living room. Had a CRT monitor as well for my PC which used Trinitron technology and it was great but I've now got a NEC TFT and my desk has really opened up. That Mitsubishi that monitor used to take most of my desk because it was so deep!
 
Marching, have you bought your TV yet?

Pioneer's are expensive but they offer the best quality, but not bang-for-buck, as you pay the premium for their superior quality.

You only get the panel in the box with them as well... so you'd need to fork out for: a wall bracket or stand (£100-£250); 2. Speakers if you don't use an Amp. and 5yr warranty if you don't buy from a good shop...

If you plan to watch footy or play fast moving games, you'd be wise not to scrimp on the initial outlay of your panel. The cheaper brands suffer with lots of bleed (especially on reds) and their orbiter (or whatever technology they use to avoid screen burn) is poorer.

You've also got to be careful of your viewing distances with a 50" panel. If you aren't watching much high definition TV, you've got to sit further back or the picture is most likely to look poor with lots of artificating you wouldn't associate with 4-figure tv.

1080p is important if you're interested in future-proofing your set and not having to go out and upgrade a few years down the line, but if you're only going to be playing a wii (which can only do 480p) it's not as big a concern, I guess. Generally, if you're going about spending four figures on a panel, I'd think you'd want something that can meet industry standards for a number of years, mind.

You can pick up a Pioneer PDP-LX5090 Kuro for £1800 with a 5-year warranty from Selfridges, which is a fantastic deal on one of the best panels on the market. That'll handle anything you throw at it for a good while yet. Not sure if it comes bundled with anything, but you can sort yourself a good deal on extras in store.
 
James Parkin said:
best tv without question is

Sony KDL-40W4500

or

Sony KDL-46W4500

or

Sony KDL-40Z4500
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Sony got usurped in the panel game a long time ago. Lots of clouding issues with their panels and they really do cost a bomb for what you get, which was at least justified back in the Trinitron days, when they were a league above, but not anymore.
 
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