FIFA are considering new football rules

kouroux said:
Not sure what to think about it. I don't recognize football anymore
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30 minutes a half.
The game clock stops when the ball goes out of play.
Unlimited subs.
Throw-ins played with feet.
5 minute suspension for a yellow card.
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30 minutes a half. - This wont really be much different when combines with no. 2. - That being said, the 45 minute clock is so ingrained with me I dont think I'd ever enjoy a 30 minute clock, even with all times stopped. The halves will generally be shorter anyway, and it removes the tense/grueling feeling of overtime where dreams are shattered, or born.
The game clock stops when the ball goes out of play. - During one of the world cups, someone actually tested this. The average stoppage time when the ball is dead from either throwin in, free kick or any type of stoppage time: was 13:10
Unlimited subs. - I genuinely don't like this one. Teams with stronger benches will be at an incredible advantage.
Throw-ins played with feet. - Same with this one, corner and throw ins become the same thing near the 16m box.
5 minute suspension for a yellow card. - Not sure about this one, 5 minutes feel a bit arbitrary, then again it does actually punish a player for commiting a serious error other than having to "take it easy"
 
The 30-minute halves with the clock stopping is much better really, as the amount of time 'football' is actually played is less than that. Substitutions, injuries, goals, fouls, free kicks, corners, throw-ins, goal kicks, VAR Decisions etc already eat up so much time. It would stop time wasting 'strategies' - the only way you'd be able to waste time is by keeping the ball. So, it arguably forces everyone to just get better at football.

I can't agree with yellow card 'sin bins' like Rugby though. There is just too much inconsistency with how yellow cards are awarded. Some players get away with totting up five fouls in a game, some get penalized for their first. We'd have to use VAR for yellow cards and I don't think that would go down well, too much scrutiny.

An Orange Card could make sense for specific types of fouls, like a professional fouls the old 'last man' thing people like to throw around. I could agree with 5 minutes of play-time being the punishment (not not it's own 5 minute timer).

One thing I'll say is that we need to bring these in one at a time and slowly test them.
 
After thinking a bit about it, here is how I would like it to happen:

1) 30 minutes halves with the clock stopping when ball is out of play - definitely yes. However, even after the time runs out the play is allowed until the ball is out of play (corner or out). If the team fouls, the game is continued.

2) Unlimited subs - yes, but you are allowed to do in only three times per match, and once you are out, you are out.

3) 5 mins out after yellow - no, but I would introduce an orange card given either for really hard yellows (Jorginho in the final), or for cynical fouls (Chiellini in the final, Fernandinho every 5 minutes etc).

4) Throw in to be done by foot - I do not think this is that important, but if they do this, the ball must not be crossed in the penalty area.
 
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kouroux said:
Not sure what to think about it. I don't recognize football anymore
https://www.insidesport.co/what-are...fa-are-considering-that-has-got-fans-furious/

30 minutes a half.
The game clock stops when the ball goes out of play.
Unlimited subs.
Throw-ins played with feet.
5 minute suspension for a yellow card.
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I agree with stopping the clock when ball isn't in play.
Unlimited subs is ridiculous idea.
Refs should be allowed to bench players for certain types of fouls, but there'd be no consistency and would cause a lot of disruption to the flow of the game.
So throw ins become free kicks essentially? We'd have teams seeking tactical throw ins, then lumping it into the box, would certainly be a game changer.
I think games at 45 mins per half is the best bit of the game, grinding down teams and fatigue kicking in, so Fergie time goals happen.
I think it's going to Americanize the game, so dumb it down for the masses.
 
Good:
  • The game clock stops when the ball goes out of play.
Meh:
  • Unlimited subs.
  • Throw-ins played with feet.
  • 5 minute suspension for a yellow card.
I would like to see bigger goals en pitches, hoping it makes the game more attractive. I'm just so fecking bored with a lot of the football played nowadays.
 
If the 5 minute for a yellow card stopped the tedious and just so anger inducing fouls to stop a side breaking so be it. I hate how much that tactic is used now.
 
Stopping the clock is simply a better way of keeping time, so no issue there. And changing the length of the halves goes hand in hand with that.

The rest make less sense.
 
Well, as somebody who wants to go back to 3 subs ASAP, I'm definetely against unlimited subs. Part of managers job is to get their selections right. Unlimited subs means managers who get their selections wrong can fix the issue far too easily

The sin bin one is worth a trial. What works well in one sport, in this case rugby, might not work in another sport though. Is 5 minutes the right amount of time in the sin bin or is 10 more appropriate?

Keep the throw in law the way it is. Just because Arsene Wenger is still traumatised by Rory Delap doesn't mean the football has to make a change.
 
LilyWhiteSpur said:
While I get the idea behind it, does it not take away some of the essence of football, the extra time winner the extra time equaliser? That bit of the game that keeps you clinging on for hope. I'm probably in the minority but, there is much more to football and why its so popular than just the football itself.
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The refs always (purposefully) mess up the added time though. It’s a con for drama. Title chasing team are drawing in the 90th minute the added time will be more than it would be in a dead rubber, regardless of how many stoppages there has been. It’s manufactured to maximise drama. 1st placed Liverpool are 1-0 down to 20th place Norwich, 6-7 minutes added on, 12th place West Ham are 1-0 up to 13th place Crystal Palace, 2-3 minutes added on. The number of stoppages has no effect on how long the added time is. It’s a complete con for creating headlines with “stoppage time winner/equaliser”
 
If they’re worried about time wasting, punish it correctly and actually ask the refs to do their jobs properly. We had a game last season where a player was booked for time wasting in injury time and the referee blew the whistle before the minimum time was played. Add the fecking time on.
 
I would be so happy if we would start stopping the clock when the ball is out of play... It will take so much incentive away for deliberate time wasting...
 
kouroux said:
Not sure what to think about it. I don't recognize football anymore
https://www.insidesport.co/what-are...fa-are-considering-that-has-got-fans-furious/

30 minutes a half.
The game clock stops when the ball goes out of play.
Unlimited subs.
Throw-ins played with feet.
5 minute suspension for a yellow card.
Click to expand...
That 30 min with a stoppage would make football about 400x better for me. You want to waste time? Go ahead my friend, we'll wait.
It's such a simple, obvious solution to a problem that has plagued the game forever, and I've never once heard a convincing argument against it.

But this is FIFA, and this is football, so it'll never happen.
 
Beyond dumb. These suits that dont play or watch the game make the most annoying suggestions.
I think 5 subs is reasonable. Everything else is garbage.
 
The clock stopping/30 minutes a half thing would just become a cynical tactic in itself. Teams would use it to break up play or give themselves extensive breaks every 5 minutes instead of waste time. It'd turn the sport into something more akin to american football where one period of play happens, then there's a break, then another 30 seconds, then another break. Absolute garbage. It'd also pave the way for adverts to seep into the middle of games which I suspect is the real motivation behind it. It'd actually be the death of football for a lot of fans I think.

Not sure what the point even is in the rest of the suggestions. Why do you need to take a throw in with your feet? What issue does this solve?

Not sure why football is so obsessed with trying to americanise itself when its appeal is based heavily around it NOT being like other more stop/start sports.
 
Unlimited subs - but only 3 substitution 'moments'
 
Noot said:
Clock stopping when the ball goes out is a great idea IMO. Means you get a consistent guaranteed hour of actual football every match. Better still, don't blow the final whistle until after the ball next goes out of play. The drama of lumping everyone forward for a corner knowing that it's the last chance to equalise would be even greater.
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Would be 100% behind that approach. The current approach is too vague as the ref has to judge when an attacking play has ended.
 
Throw-ins with feet would be interesting. It would lead to a lot more corner scenarios with regular throw-ins 20 yards down the line becoming free crossing chances

But on the other hand, there would be lots of down time as the designated corner taker strolls over and the centre backs stroll up.
 
Judas said:
Well if the average length of the ball being in play is so short, if they did the stopped clock and kept it at 45 minute halves the quality could potentially take a nose dive.
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sparx99 said:
Football has improved through rule changes. The back pass rule for example. They won’t always get it right but I do think we need to be open minded before we dismiss new ideas like this. Try it in pre-season friendlies and see what it looks like.
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Pass back rule existed in 95 it was 92 when it was introduced
 
Dorris said:
The stopping of the clock is a great idea, they just pull the added time up from their arses at the moment
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It's definitely not a great idea. I am sure the idea initially came from American sports journalists. We would have more players faking more injuries just to take some rest and lots of unnecessary drama in between. Game wouldn't end for hours.

Would be like basketball where 48 mins game will go on for three hours.
 
Iker Quesadillas said:
Then why bother, then.
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Because it's forcing the ball to be in play for 30 minutes every half, currently teams can keep the ball dead for long periods of time.

By changing this it will stop a lot of time wasting
 
Fifa needs to work on these 2 things :

1) Offside Rules need reinventing. Wengers Idea is great

2) Time wasting and Play acting
 
Stopping the clock and 30 minute halves i'm in favor of. I think the red and yellow card system and the substitution system works fine as it is.
 
30 mins a half isn’t long enough I think. I can see why they are doing it, it probably will improve the quality of games. I’d like it to go down to 40 minutes first or even split into 3 25 minute 1/3s but a game of 3 1/3’s doesn’t sound great.

I think two 40 minutes is perfect but I wonder how this would work in terms of sporting records they’ll never be comparable.

Absolutely hate unlimited subs. I think 5 subs at 3 separate occasions in normal time is fine and one more in extra time.

The clock stop should have been brought in years ago, a big screen with the clock no Fergie time and everyone is aware of when the final whistle will blow.
 
A stupid question but the clock does normally stop on the refs watch when it goes out for throw ins/ corners and free kicks right??
 
kouroux said:
You must be a huge fan of VAR then
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Genuinely I am. The way the European Championships / European refs handled the tournament as it pertains to VAR is how the Premier League should ASPIRE to. I don't remember anyone moaning about VAR half as much as normal and the refereeing quality was a breath of fresh air. That Danish ref in particular (I forget his name) is my favourite referee since Colina.
 
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