A bit like Oscar, Hulk, Ramires, Witsel, Lavezzi, Jackson Martinez et al you mean ?
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A bit like Oscar, Hulk, Ramires, Witsel, Lavezzi, Jackson Martinez et al you mean ?
I absolutely agree with this. Couldn't have put it better myself.
Fellaini was a lightning rod for jokes and all that, but he was committed to the team and the cause whenever he was truly fit and called upon. That was the bare minimum where at times, too many times, you saw his teammates not give a shit when we were losing and just packed it in. He gave the midfield steel and tenacity when it was needed. His actual technically ability was never good enough, but many, many times what he gave was effective. So be it.
He was a squad player and the past couple of years the rumors were there for him to be moved on.
I also don't understand why people are praising Ole and criticizing Jose because one one hand, Jose used him much more effectively than Moyes and probably equal to LVG. He was using what he had at his disposal. And if Ole complete froze him out, then that's a bit disappointing because he definitely could have provided adequate cover for this squad. Why does Jose allow Schweinsteiger, eventually, a chance to get into the team but not Ole with Maraueone? He's still better than McTominay and chances are he would have been a good option off the bench against Burnley or better starting option than Andreas who despite his error in the first goal, never pushed up and was positionally poor with/without the ball.
With Fred not really seeing any pitch time, United are even more thin in midfield with only Andreas and McTominay as backups. That's crap.
He was a squad player and the past couple of years the rumors were there for him to be moved on.
I also don't understand why people are praising Ole and criticizing Jose because one one hand, Jose used him much more effectively than Moyes and probably equal to LVG. He was using what he had at his disposal. And if Ole complete froze him out, then that's a bit disappointing because he definitely could have provided adequate cover for this squad. Why does Jose allow Schweinsteiger, eventually, a chance to get into the team but not Ole with Maraueone? He's still better than McTominay and chances are he would have been a good option off the bench against Burnley or better starting option than Andreas who despite his error in the first goal, never pushed up and was positionally poor with/without the ball.
With Fred not really seeing any pitch time, United are even more thin in midfield with only Andreas and McTominay as backups. That's crap.
Possibly. However i can't think of any of them being a free agent only to sign a contract with the former team because no one wanted him. I have a feeling that fellaini is moving to china because no one wants him
Or maybe it's his wages. I'm pretty sure that there would be English clubs in for him if the price was right.
Jackson Martinez couldn't quite cut it in China and is on loan at Portimense in Portugal until his contract with Guangzhou expires after managing 10 league games in four years
Only 10m? He'll be like god to midget league
His God status has gone downhill, ever since he lost his afro.
Or maybe the Chinese team has a clause that he will put the afro back.
I think he took a pay cut to stay with us. Irrespective of that, he was a free agent just few months ago. No one signed him up
Ah I'll miss the guy. So long big fella! Can't wait for the tell all book.
Not the most talented. Saw enough moments from him that showed me he had the right mentality of a United player. Moreso than players like Di Maria.
1. Perfect reaction to getting shit from idiot fans who look at him and get flashbacks of Moyes (seek help)
2. Last minute goals
3. Not complaining or sulking... Was already ready to do a job when needed
I think this is a great move for both sides. As much as I disagree with the (silly) idea that this is a symbolic move to the world, he is no longer available as a Plan B, which places more emphasis on us getting our Plan A right (which was always bs, if our starting players did the job more often he wouldn't have featured as much under 3 managers, but I digress).
Our supporters will have to find another scapegoat for any future woes, but a significant source of negativity is removed.
He gets playing time, important for the national team, and he gets paid well in China. Plus he'll surely have a significant height advantage over there, no?
I wonder how many shirts he sold with us.
Not the most talented. Saw enough moments from him that showed me he had the right mentality of a United player. Moreso than players like Di Maria.
1. Perfect reaction to getting shit from idiot fans who look at him and get flashbacks of Moyes (seek help)
2. Last minute goals
3. Not complaining or sulking... Was already ready to do a job when needed
I think this is a great move for both sides. As much as I disagree with the (silly) idea that this is a symbolic move to the world, he is no longer available as a Plan B, which places more emphasis on us getting our Plan A right (which was always bs, if our starting players did the job more often he wouldn't have featured as much under 3 managers, but I digress).
Our supporters will have to find another scapegoat for any future woes, but a significant source of negativity is removed.
He gets playing time, important for the national team, and he gets paid well in China. Plus he'll surely have a significant height advantage over there, no?
I wonder how many shirts he sold with us.
Meh, he is a player I don't have any particular strong feeling for. I never hated him, never liked him either.
He's never been anything beyond utterly ordinary (barely competent, some might say) as an actual (central) midfielder. I see nothing terribly wrong with seeing out the season with Pereira, McTominay and Fred as second stringers in that department. Fellaini isn't better than any of those players regarded as a midfielder (DM, CM, b2b) - and not a chest control specialist good for causing havoc in the opposition box.
Ole clearly doesn't think he's worth keeping as a "Plan B" either - which is fine by me. There are other ways to turn a result around than the hoof-it-to-Fella scheme favoured by José.
Ole clearly doesn't think he's worth keeping as a "Plan B" either - which is fine by me. There are other ways to turn a result around than the hoof-it-to-Fella scheme favoured by José.
Fair enough buddy. If you think ability is the only thing that differentiates one player from another, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Educated guess but him getting circa £235,000 a week might have something to do with him moving to China more than nobody wanting him(which even you don't believe), could be wrong though......
Well that speaks volumes about his attitude about football doesn't it? Having said that he was a free agent not long ago and no one moved in for him.
Two pieces of good news in one day. Good luck to Fellaini in China and wish him all the best, but I quite like the fact that we're no longer going to resort to this style of football anymore. £10.5m plus a couple of million or so we'll save in wages due to selling him now instead of in the summer is good money to go into the transfer pot.
Don't follow the League so don't know how JM got on in China, just typed out a few random names of players that had headed East in their pomp years fairly recently.
I mean I'm not really agreeing or disagreeing
, just wondering what other benchmarks. I put mentality under professionalism and I don't really consider marketing as anything meaningful, i.e. you wouldn't pass up a world class player because he is not marketable.Prob back playing for someone like Burnley within 12 months. Get some cash, massive signing on bonus, and start pining to come back to Europe within a few months - that’s what happens with half these players who go to China.
If you're getting paid that much at his age knowing your prospects of going to a better club with better wages is zero, I would make that same sacrifice and you probably would too. His circumstances now, financially and playing wise, are much different this time compared to his initial contract he signed with United. I can't fault this dude when he's achieved trophies at United. League Cup, FA Cup, Europa League and World Cup appearances. Capped 87 times for country.
His attitude spoke volumes yes when on the pitch because he gave a shit. Was 100% happier and still am when United let go Depay, diMaria, Schniderlin, Evans, etc. Mentally, they weren't fit for the club. They all had more ability than Fellaini, maybe not Morgan it might be level, but why did Fellaini survive longer? Something was there like attitude and professionalism and effort.
I proper would rather keep him till the summer and maybe send Pereira out on loan or sell. Felllani is twice the player he will ever be.
So he's a Mercenary eh, name me one professional footballer that isn't.
Would have sworn he was close to signing for AC Milan last Summer, but maybe I imagined it.
its funny how his fanboys keep defending him. To answer your question Fellaini survived because he knew that he won the lottery by signing with us and there's no way on earth that lightening would hit the same place twice. Thus he stuck to the rubbish managers we had when no one did because he knew that if United end up signing a decent manager then he would be the first to go. But don't let that fool you. When his confidence grew he came up with BS of United making a mistake for not extending his contract. He only came back to sign a new contract when it became evident that no half decent side wanted him. So if you think that Fellaini would have turned PSG down than you're deluded.
So Let me ask a more appropriate question now. Why every manager who stuck to this bellend found himself fired?
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Nah. Napoli wanted him a year before but they wanted him on loan and with us paying him most of his salary.
The press. Probably the same press he called bullshit when they were slamming Pogba for his attitude during Mourinho's time here. Unfortunately, the united fan base believes the press when it suits them and calls bullshit when it doesn't.
The ultimate scapegoat for United fans. Not the highest standard United should be striving for but no donkey either and quite effective if used properly. He was EPL team of the year the season before he arrives and has consistently been an integral part of a loaded Belgium team. Guys like McTominay and Perreira will never get close to that level.
How many last minute goals did he score? Im pretty sure its less than 5 in his 6 seasons here. Why would you praise a professional footballer for not sulking and complaining? I guess most of our players do right?
Not the worst player in our history as some make him out to be. By far not the worst player in our squad in recent years.
Rather than posting smiley faces and celebrations he deserves respect. He gave his all and scored some vital goals. Did he fit in our club? No. Was it his fault that three managers kept picking him? No.
£10m good fee and good luck to him.
Rather than posting smiley faces and celebrations he deserves respect. He gave his all and scored some vital goals. Did he fit in our club? No. Was it his fault that three managers kept picking him? No.
£10m good fee and good luck to him.
He was a United player, I think we're entitled to defend players who have played central roles in winning big matches and trophies. Many people came to appreciate his contributions but at the same time understood his limitations and he wasn't good enough to be a bonafide starting player. Should he have been bought in the first place, no. Hell no. But United bought him and sanctioned the purchases of other midfield players. It's not as if he wasn't competing with other midfielders to play games.
Why does Ole or Woody get praise for selling him at this moment in time? I don't get how those are related. Fellaini has been on the transfer block the past couple of years and finally his valuation or external offer has been met. His time has come and it was coming, so what. Rooney was here through Fergie and he survived his attempt at selling him. Moyes resigned Rooney, then was fired. LVG signed, made Rooney captain still and was fired. Same with Jose, but then it was under Jose who sold Rooney....or what is just timing or was it Woody who sold him?
Majority of players outlast managers, what's your point? If he was such a negative to the club, he would have been sold much sooner/closer to his buy date a la diMaria, Morgan, Depay, Mikhitaryan, Januzaj. Rojo is still here, Darmian is still here.
I don't take the attitude for granted. But why do you care why I like a certain (now ex-) United player?
I think one of the weirdest things about this whole thing is how some fans were baffled/offended at the idea that some other fans dared to actually support and/or like a United player (one that looked like he gave a shit, compared to some others). But he's gone now, so both camps can look forward.
I think if you question Fellaini’s attitude to football, you must have an axe to grind.
I believe for Solskjær as for many United fans including me, he’s the epitome for what United doesn’t stand for. He’s not elegant, he’s not particularly technical, he’s neither fast nor exciting, he isn’t young and he isn’t local. He isn’t even much of a colourful character.
Yet as a technically limited and somewhat cumbersome player he has fought is way into (and back into) the best Belgian youth teams and A teams of decades, and into a quite good Everton side and then into the sides of three different managers (with limited success at United, yes, but to say all these three managers know nothing about players and football would be stupid, no?) with plenty of midfielders to compete with. With patience and effort he has clawed his way to the top stages of world football and stayed there while others came and were flushed away, despite not being the taste of the town. He’s a fighter, not a quitter, he’ has earned well, but he has earned it every time. He has never made it easy for himself before this.
That speakes volumes about his attitude to football, this doesn’t.
But of course he does... You know what it is.
Fellaini was signed and he remained there because the managers in question lacked support and he was one of the few who showed them loyalty. He did so, not because he had a particular love towards us. In fact when he started to believe his own hype he came up with the 'they should have extended my contract when they had the time' which remained there up until reality kicked in. He did so because he knew that the moment a half decent manager is signed then he would be on the way out. In fact that's exactly what happened.
Also you might notice but you're at Manchester United not some mid tier club. Winning the league cup or the Thursday Night cup are not big cups.
Well said sir.So long and best of luck Marouane, unloved by some underrated by most.
A pay cut at United still equates to top earnings at other clubs. I don't think any other Prem club would match what he's on here.
Good player for us. Good servant. I’ll remember him far more fondly than most of the post Ferguson signings.
What a strange question. 5 1/2 years is quite a long spell.
There must be a good 100 or so just in the last 20 years.
I'll really miss seeing him in the red shirt. Best of luck, Fele!
Above the dross you list, but it certainly doesn't take our star players to class as better than him.
I'd wager we could quite easily find 50-100 players better than him with less than 5 1/2 years service over the last 20years.
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