Favourable contract situations this summer

[justsomebloke]

He would play RW. Amads not ready. Antony is not ready. Sancho is not ready. He will also get games at LW. Garnacho is not ready. He will also play back up to Bruno. Seems like an ideal player that can fill multiple gaps. Not saying all those younger players wont get games but they need to be treated as young players. That means they should not be pressured to be first choice in a team hoping to push for the title. Its too much to ask. They should get games here and there or come off the bench for 30 mins. See how Foden is treated.

Er, what? All of those players will, should and must get regular playing time next season. Amad is the only one where that is even in question, and the only one who fits your idea of a "young player" - and even with him, that might be too pessimistic. Someone like Garnacho have showed more than enough to earn expectations of playing frequently. If there's an issue, it's whether we can give him enough minutes with the depth we have.

I really like Maddison to the extent that I would regard him an upgrade on what we have, but there is no gap-filling involved - on the contrary, we'd need to make room for him by moving someone else out.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Leao has one year left and should be easy enough to get out of AC Milan. Depends if we think Rashford can become a striker.
Rice has 1 year left as well. I dont believe West Ham can get the 100 mill plus they keep banging on about. With 1 year left I'm thinking 80.

Maybe end up with below for 160 ish

-------------Rashford-----------
Leao-------Bruno---------Antony
--------Rice-------Casemiro

Jaysus no. Rashford is poor with his back to goal. Paying that much to have him up too would be awful.

 

[Rojofiam]

Bruno is a freak, anyone we buy to be a back-up for him will end up wasting several years of his career, like van de Beek has done.

 

[Reyoji-Utd]

Enzo Le Fee has just 1 year left on his contract come June

 

[Abraxas]

He would play RW. Amads not ready. Antony is not ready. Sancho is not ready. He will also get games at LW. Garnacho is not ready. He will also play back up to Bruno. Seems like an ideal player that can fill multiple gaps. Not saying all those younger players wont get games but they need to be treated as young players. That means they should not be pressured to be first choice in a team hoping to push for the title. Its too much to ask. They should get games here and there or come off the bench for 30 mins. See how Foden is treated.

Nobody is asking young players to be first choice. I think the manager already has his first choice ideas in Rashford and Antony. When is a player like Antony going to be ready then when he's in his 20s, just had a season of experience to his name and we just spent 80 million on him? I would say he is ready and it's up to him to deliver.

Diallo and Garnacho are backups, squad options. Which is the perfect place for them. But obviously the more bodies in front of them the less likely they are to get experience. They are not just going to mould themselves into world class first teamers without us speculating to accumulate on them in their development. You refer to Foden but this is exactly how he was treated. Pep still played him even when he didn't believe he was the finished article.

 

[UpWithRivers]

Nobody is asking young players to be first choice. I think the manager already has his first choice ideas in Rashford and Antony. When is a player like Antony going to be ready then when he's in his 20s, just had a season of experience to his name and we just spent 80 million on him? I would say he is ready and it's up to him to deliver.

Diallo and Garnacho are backups, squad options. Which is the perfect place for them. But obviously the more bodies in front of them the less likely they are to get experience. They are not just going to mould themselves into world class first teamers without us speculating to accumulate on them in their development. You refer to Foden but this is exactly how he was treated. Pep still played him even when he didn't believe he was the finished article.

Pep played Foden when he was in form and then dropped him when he wasnt. Thats the problem with most young players. They are inconsistent. Sure you have the Haalands etc of the world but its rare. We need to get away from the thinking that we can give players years to reach standard. We want to compete with City. Thats a tough ask. And that means if you arnt averaging 7 out of 10 or above then you need to go to the bench. Ten Haag already said it. We need machines. It doesnt matter how much Antony cost. Sancho cost a load too. Doesnt matter. If we are relying on them next year then we are gambling. And what happens when Antony gets injured or isnt performing? We play Bruno RW again? Or Pellestri/Amad? Sure they can do a job here and there but the levels drop and points are lost. Would it not be better to have Maddison that will almost guarantee 15-20 goals and assists and then tell Antony to prove he's better. If he is then Maddison goes to the bench. Thats how you improve. Get another player to challenge and see if your current option steps up. If Antony is as good as some people think then Maddison will be a very useful squad player.

 

[Abraxas]

Pep played Foden when he was in form and then dropped him when he wasnt. Thats the problem with most young players. They are inconsistent. Sure you have the Haalands etc of the world but its rare. We need to get away from the thinking that we can give players years to reach standard. We want to compete with City. Thats a tough ask. And that means if you arnt averaging 7 out of 10 or above then you need to go to the bench. Ten Haag already said it. We need machines. It doesnt matter how much Antony cost. Sancho cost a load too. Doesnt matter. If we are relying on them next year then we are gambling. And what happens when Antony gets injured or isnt performing? We play Bruno RW again? Or Pellestri/Amad? Sure they can do a job here and there but the levels drop and points are lost. Would it not be better to have Maddison that will almost guarantee 15-20 goals and assists and then tell Antony to prove he's better. If he is then Maddison goes to the bench. Thats how you improve. Get another player to challenge and see if your current option steps up. If Antony is as good as some people think then Maddison will be a very useful squad player.

Sure, it makes sense if we have this relatively great squad of 15-16 players and we just need to provide competition that may or may not be better. But we really, really don't. Which means using funds effectively where they make the most sense, until we're taken over by somebody with more money than God it has to be that way. The most sense isn't in attacking midfield positions in my opinion.

 

[croadyman]

Sure, it makes sense if we have this relatively great squad of 15-16 players and we just need to provide competition that may or may not be better. But we really, really don't. Which means using funds effectively where they make the most sense, until we're taken over by somebody with more money than God it has to be that way. The most sense isn't in attacking midfield positions in my opinion.

You have exactly nailed the only scenario where we should be looking to sign Maddison this summer. Unfortunately we have bigger issues at ST,CM,DM (backup) CB (backup),RB,ST (backup) all ahead of it

 

[Houdini]

I really think this is the one player we should be all over. He is exactly what we need, a de jong clone looking for a step up. Has all the skills we need plus he is surprisingly good defensively, we should be pushing to agree a deal for him even before the window opens. I think, in an alternate universe, we sign him and someone like allan varela for a combined 40m and we fix our midfield for the next 10 years.

Le Fee is the next big thing in therms of technique. We should sign him at all cost.

 

[croadyman]

Le Fee is the next big thing in therms of technique. We should sign him at all cost.

Are Utd's scouts totally blind to this guy

 

[Lash]

I believe Cherki's contract is expiring in a year this summer. We supposedly made a massive offer for him when he was 16, so wouldn't be surprised if we monitored that situation.

Similar contract situations Iliman N'diaye could one to be look at if we want a high energy, false 9 type - mainly for depth. Versatile forward, but obviously big step up. I like his profile personally, grafted his way to where he is now as well, so good attitude.

Pavard is another one with a year left this summer, very good in the build up and a good defender.

 

[Houdini]

Are Utd's scouts totally blind to this guy

He does not have the hype of Dordmund's Sancho, Grealish etc. We are not known for signing talented hidden gems post Fergie. The only one great signing of a young non-hyped talent post Fergie is Marinez. Or we just don't raate Ligue 1?

 

[NoPace]

If the 100M budget is true, then I'd say odds go up for signing:
Kamada (assuming Sabitzer doesn't want to be a depth mid here) or Thuram (backup #9) on frees,

and maybe a weird loan like Kyle Walker-Peters coming in on loan instead of Frimpong as an attacking RB option if his wages are a bit high for Southampton in the champo and they can't shift Perraud and want to start Livramento at RB next year, or Daka, Vardy or Iheanacho as our backup #9 behind the expensive striker we sign, if Leicester go down.

 

[croadyman]

If the 100M budget is true, then I'd say odds go up for signing:
Kamada (assuming Sabitzer doesn't want to be a depth mid here) or Thuram (backup #9) on frees,

and maybe a weird loan like Kyle Walker-Peters coming in on loan instead of Frimpong as an attacking RB option if his wages are a bit high for Southampton in the champo and they can't shift Perraud and want to start Livramento at RB next year, or Daka, Vardy or Iheanacho as our backup #9 behind the expensive striker we sign, if Leicester go down.

If that's true we are in deep shite because generally we get feck all for selling players. The thought of yet again no top striker is making me feel absolutely physically sick.

 

[NoPace]

If that's true we are in deep shite because generally we get feck all for selling players. The thought of yet again no top striker is making me feel absolutely physically sick.

I think Ten Hag is likely committed to getting a good striker and midfielder in, everything else can be patched up if need be, like Lindelof at RCB, both RBs and De Gea stay.

I feel like worst case scenario is probably someone like Jonathan David or Abraham up top for most of the money, then we get Mac Allister or Kokcu or a passing midfielder of that ilk and I have no idea if we add a DM to backup Casemiro, as it seems McTominay wants to go, or Maguire wants to leave and we sign someone who can play CB and DM, or what happens there.

 

[Lux Thunder]

CF: Harry Kane
CM: Mateo Kovačić
GK: David Raya
CM/AM: Enzo Le Fee
CB: Kim Min Jae

Sign these five players, which all in some way have favorable contract situations, and we would be a much more serious squad. Dani Olmo is also a technical, versatile and talented player who is entering the last year of his contract.

 

[zaafi]

CF: Harry Kane
CM: Mateo Kovačić
GK: David Raya
CM/AM: Enzo Le Fee
CB: Kim Min Jae

Sign these five players, which all in some way have favorable contract situations, and we would be a much more serious squad. Dani Olmo is also a technical, versatile and talented player who is entering the last year of his contract.

Very good list. It's about time we got in some press resistant midfielders who are comfortable in possession.
Ultimately, I think we should aim higher than Raya, but he's better than De Gea anyway.

 

[Ballache]

CF: Harry Kane
CM: Mateo Kovačić
GK: David Raya
CM/AM: Enzo Le Fee
CB: Kim Min Jae

Sign these five players, which all in some way have favorable contract situations, and we would be a much more serious squad. Dani Olmo is also a technical, versatile and talented player who is entering the last year of his contract.

That's a good, realistic list. We need two cms but I'd prefer a young 6 instead of Kovacic, a Lavia maybe but that might be difficult with our (rumored) budget.

 

[No Love]

I believe Cherki's contract is expiring in a year this summer. We supposedly made a massive offer for him when he was 16, so wouldn't be surprised if we monitored that situation.

Lord knows we have plenty of experience in this reheard, too.

 

[croadyman]

CF: Harry Kane
CM: Mateo Kovačić
GK: David Raya
CM/AM: Enzo Le Fee
CB: Kim Min Jae

Sign these five players, which all in some way have favorable contract situations, and we would be a much more serious squad. Dani Olmo is also a technical, versatile and talented player who is entering the last year of his contract.

Swap Raya for Costa but only remotely realistic if we get the ownership farce actually sorted out

 

[Dr. StrangeHate]

CF: Harry Kane
CM: Mateo Kovačić
GK: David Raya
CM/AM: Enzo Le Fee
CB: Kim Min Jae

Sign these five players, which all in some way have favorable contract situations, and we would be a much more serious squad. Dani Olmo is also a technical, versatile and talented player who is entering the last year of his contract.

Haven't Barcelona been trying to sign Olmo for years now. If he is available, quite likely Barca will be his destination.

 

[Lux Thunder]

Very good list. It's about time we got in some press resistant midfielders who are comfortable in possession.
Ultimately, I think we should aim higher than Raya, but he's better than De Gea anyway.

Swap Raya for Costa but only remotely realistic if we get the ownership farce actually sorted out

Yeah, I agree that Costa and Maignan are probably the surest thing when it comes to goalkeepers position for the next decade but when we are already talking about players with favorable contract situations, Raya should have been mentioned at the top of the list.

That's a good, realistic list. We need two cms but I'd prefer a young 6 instead of Kovacic, a Lavia maybe but that might be difficult with our (rumored) budget.

A fun fact is that Kovačić used to cover for Casemiro in Real Madrid at the DM position and played quite well there but of course, it is not an answer and in the future windows, we should be looking for someone more natural there.

Still, I would love Kovačić as his partner here, as he can progress the ball through both carrying/dribbling ability and passing while Eriksen mostly progresses the ball via passing + his defensive work is much better than Eriksen's.

Haven't Barcelona been trying to sign Olmo for years now. If he is available, quite likely Barca will be his destination.

That's true, I mentioned him as I always admired Olmo in some way. I think he would flourish under a more possession-based system rather than the direct approach that RB Leipzig is playing.

To sum up, I would rather see this kind of approach with us signing technical players who can play through the press for relatively bargain fees and I think Kovačić, Le Fee, and Olmo represent that values in this summer market.

The only doubt from the list is Kim Min Jae - he is a top center-back who is available for a bargain fee, but reasonably ETH seems to have an idea of a left-footed player at LCB, and given that Shaw there and Lindelof at RCB looked very good recently I very much doubt ETH would be interested in Kim now.

 

[UNITED ACADEMY]

Edson Alvarez contract expired in 2025 could be an interesting one because he can cover DM and CB means he can cover Casemiro and Varane (if maguire is sold).

Gravenberch isn’t happy with his minutes at Bayern, we might be able to sign him for reasonable price.

Kovacic is also an option with chelsea not in European comp and he’s on his final year, we might be able to get him. 25m or 25m plus 5m performance adds on will be what I’m looking for.

 

[croadyman]

Yeah, I agree that Costa and Maignan are probably the surest thing when it comes to goalkeepers position for the next decade but when we are already talking about players with favorable contract situations, Raya should have been mentioned at the top of the list.



A fun fact is that Kovačić used to cover for Casemiro in Real Madrid at the DM position and played quite well there but of course, it is not an answer and in the future windows, we should be looking for someone more natural there.

Still, I would love Kovačić as his partner here, as he can progress the ball through both carrying/dribbling ability and passing while Eriksen mostly progresses the ball via passing + his defensive work is much better than Eriksen's.



That's true, I mentioned him as I always admired Olmo in some way. I think he would flourish under a more possession-based system rather than the direct approach that RB Leipzig is playing.

To sum up, I would rather see this kind of approach with us signing technical players who can play through the press for relatively bargain fees and I think Kovačić, Le Fee, and Olmo represent that values in this summer market.

The only doubt from the list is Kim Min Jae - he is a top center-back who is available for a bargain fee, but reasonably ETH seems to have an idea of a left-footed player at LCB, and given that Shaw there and Lindelof at RCB looked very good recently I very much doubt ETH would be interested in Kim now.

Yeah this midfield desperately needs better stromg technical press resistant players if we are ever to start dominating midfield battles and controlling games

 

[croadyman]

Edson Alvarez contract expired in 2025 could be an interesting one because he can cover DM and CB means he can cover Casemiro and Varane (if maguire is sold).

Gravenberch isn’t happy with his minutes at Bayern, we might be able to sign him for reasonable price.

Kovacic is also an option with chelsea not in European comp and he’s on his final year, we might be able to get him. 25m or 25m plus 5m performance adds on will be what I’m looking for.

Fully expect Kovacic to join City