Fans who dont get behind the team

Elizabeth

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Even more frustrating than our below par form this season is fairweather fans.
W@nkers who sound off if every match isnt a 9-0 thrashing .
Nothing wrong with discussion of positions etc but fans who just diss the players full stop.
If you dont like the state of play p*ss off
 
I'm not allowed to take part in this debate because according to Candian Dee i'm an unintelligent fan who gives the club a bad name. Not bad for their 11th post
 
Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>I take it you dont like this Kevin bloke. ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>


<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> its either Rams or Stan,no one is that much of a knob.P*ssed off in general with coming into this forum and reading sack *** sell*** and how cr@p the team is.Sh*te if this is supposed to be people who love the team..... <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" /> .
(btw Ill p/m you after thurs and tell you what happens in League )
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Originally posted by Ever hopefull:
<strong>I'm not allowed to take part in this debate because according to Candian Dee i'm an unintelligent fan who gives the club a bad name. Not bad for their 11th post</strong><hr></blockquote>

At least your name is positive..... ;)
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Oh shit, I'm dead NOW!
 
I think this is actually worth debating, its reached such a problem on this forum. Do we love the Club, or the Players? When the Doc was our manager, would it be ok to want him sacked? When Birtles was playing up front, is it ok to say he's not good enough? When the manager sells a player, is he right to do so? If the manager, in private, slams into a player, is he right to do so? When Chairmen sack a manager like O'Leary, is that loyal? Why are fans the only one's who can't criticise, can't demand something back for THEIR MONEY. The players earn more in a year than some people do in their lifetimes, I think its fair to expect something in return for that, like hard work every match.
 
Originally posted by Elizabeth:
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<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> its either Rams or Stan,no one is that much of a knob.P*ssed off in general with coming into this forum and reading sack *** sell*** and how cr@p the team is.Sh*te if this is supposed to be people who love the team..... <img src="graemlins/nervous.gif" border="0" alt="[Nervous]" /> .
(btw Ill p/m you after thurs and tell you what happens in League )</strong><hr></blockquote>

:D Thanks. Looked on the BBC America site and Comedy Central (both have shown it in the past) and it looks like they're gonna give this one a miss. :( Stuck with Graham bloody Norton and his audience sharing their disgusting secrets. And Changing Rooms. ;)
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Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>It's the old "Constructive critiscm versus Downright slagging people off" debate I'm afraid.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yep,but half of the planks dont even have a good reason to slag the particular player off.They just want someones head because we have lost.
Its a slow start to the season,noone can deny this but some fans still arent satisfied with 3 points right now.Once we have got a few wins on the trot and clawed our way up the table a bit we can expect some more classy goals.Right now 3 points is 3 points.
Bad enough to watch the team struggle then to come in here and read so called fans comments adds insult to injury.
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Originally posted by Elizabeth:
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Yep,but half of the planks dont even have a good reason to slag the particular player off.They just want someones head because we have lost.
Its a slow start to the season,noone can deny this but some fans still arent satisfied with 3 points right now.Once we have got a few wins on the trot and clawed our way up the table a bit we can expect some more classy goals.Right now 3 points is 3 points.
Bad enough to watch the team struggle then to come in here and read so called fans comments adds insult to injury.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I think the worst of all is even when we win, there is still reason to complain! <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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Originally posted by pjaya:
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I think the worst of all is even when we win, there is still reason to complain! :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>

Exactly,3 points in the bag,room for improvement maybe but 3 much needed points;then they come on here and start..... :rolleyes:
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Those who use the Treble season as a measuring stick for the side of today should remember we lost one and drew 2 in the first 6 games of that season, so the only difference is we have one more defeat. Nothing to worry about imo, especially once we strengthen the squad in January. What I find really irritating is when people come on straight after we win 5-2 in the Cl just to say "let's not get carried away..." <img src="graemlins/annoyed.gif" border="0" alt="[Annoyed]" />
 
Originally posted by Elizabeth:
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Exactly,3 points in the bag,room for improvement maybe but 3 much needed points;then they come on here and start..... :rolleyes: </strong><hr></blockquote>

It depends whether they are complaining or picking up on aspects that could be improved. You always have to look for ways to improve but any criticism must be backed up. It no good just to come on a start throw around complaints.
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Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>Those who use the Treble season as a measuring stick for the side of today should remember we lost one and drew 2 in the first 6 games of that season, so the only difference is we have one more defeat. Nothing to worry about imo, especially once we strengthen the squad in January. What I find really irritating is when people come on straight after we win 5-2 in the Cl just to say "let's not get carried away..." <img src="graemlins/annoyed.gif" border="0" alt="[Annoyed]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Yep,(was just about word for word what Kevin put too <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> ).We should at least bask in any win for that evening.
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I agree with Neil.

Is it fair to condemn Fans who criticise players or management as disloyal to the club?

It's like saying that slagging off Tony Blair means you are disloyal Brits! :eek:

If that's the case, Americans are the most loyal citizens from what I see here when they think that George W is the best thing since sliced bread! :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>"let's not get carried away..." <img src="graemlins/annoyed.gif" border="0" alt="[Annoyed]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

we shouldn't!


nor should we slagg off the team if they tried their best and have been unlucky..against the better sides!
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Originally posted by kkcbl:
<strong>I agree with Neil.

Is it fair to condemn Fans who criticise players or management as disloyal to the club?

It's like saying that slagging off Tony Blair means you are disloyal Brits! :eek:

If that's the case, Americans are the most loyal citizens from what I see here when they think that George W is the best thing since sliced bread! :rolleyes: </strong><hr></blockquote>


There are different forms of criticism though.Fair enough to dicuss if this would have worked better with **** on the left insted of **** but just out and out **** is sh*te sack him is not on.
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Originally posted by Elizabeth:
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There are different forms of criticism though.Fair enough to dicuss if this would have worked better with **** on the left insted of **** but just out and out Veron is sh*te sack him is not on.</strong><hr></blockquote>

;)
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Originally posted by giggzy:
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yes.. but there's not need to hate.


support the team, stanners.

cnut ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

I do, 100% in fact

If there's on player i wish would perform well then it's Mr V

Then i wouldn't have to listen to you lot telling me how great he is when you know that you are lying

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You have to feel sorry for the doom and gloom merchants. I remember when we were going to see us lose to oxford and teams like that. The days when European qualification was a distant dream. Now people get upset when we win 1-0.
 
Originally posted by Ever hopefull:
<strong>You have to feel sorry for the doom and gloom merchants. I remember when we were going to see us lose to oxford and teams like that. The days when European qualification was a distant dream. Now people get upset when we win 1-0.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I loved those days as i was a regular at that time

Not many overpaid twats in the side during that period though was there
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Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>When the Doc was our manager, would it be ok to want him sacked? </strong><hr></blockquote>

Only if you were a physio
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Originally posted by rz99:
<strong>I've seen giggzy criticize players. Hypocrite! :p </strong><hr></blockquote>

All of us have criticised the players at times. It's a forum, if we all just agreed with each other it would be a bit boring.
The problem comes when players are slagged off for no real reason.
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Originally posted by Wibble:
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Only if you were a physio</strong><hr></blockquote>

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Originally posted by Ever hopefull:
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All of us have criticised the players at times. It's a forum, if we all just agreed with each other it would be a bit boring.
The problem comes when players are slagged off for no real reason.</strong><hr></blockquote>

When exactly is a good time to criticize a player?

When he's under achieving for 12 months plus?
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Originally posted by spinoza:
<strong>He's trying. And he hasn't always underachieved. He was the reason we didn't go out to Deportivo in the CL quarters last season.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Bit of an overstatement. He may have set up two goals but we were already crusing after the firstleg, they had given up.
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Verons shite. he's only remaining in the team because Fergies stubborn.

and its 11:30 at night & i couldnt be arsed to give you constructive criticism. watch 90% of the United matches and youll see why a combo out of Keane/Scholes/Butt should always be number 1 pairing.
 
Originally posted by Stanley Road:
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When exactly is a good time to criticize a player?

When he's under achieving for 12 months plus?</strong><hr></blockquote>

If hes one of several players underachieving for &gt;12 months then he shouldnt have to expect more criticism than others. It doesnt matter if you cost us tuppence or 26 mill.
Criticise but do it fairly.
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I loved those days as i was a regular at that time

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Really Stanley? :eek:

What position did you play in? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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