podurban2
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There is no way we will agree to anything else but a straight loan, right?
EtH likes him and wants him to stay, so would expect it’s just a straight loan. (Hopefully)There is no way we will agree to anything else but a straight loan, right?
To be fair, if I couldn't get infront of elanga in this team I would be phoning my agent "get me out of Hereeeeeee" However not every player can expect ETH to solve all of their problems in 5 months. If Sancho is back then it would look like he is ahead of Pellistri.Agree. After Antony we have no RW in the squad. If he can't get ahead of Bruno or Elanga in that position then there's no point.
Odd he won’t send elanga to Everton but will send Pellistri to Valencia.Valencia are a shit club to loan a player to. Did Pereira sweet feck all.
I agree feck SpainWhy not send him to the championship? We keep sending him to Spain like it's by design all along -- Spanish shopwindow?
Or maybe EtH values different things than you or other fans. There's no doubt that Antony (and Elanga to a lesser extent) is very good defensively and when Antony doesn't play, the team is in my view more vulnerable to counters. Antony is also very good at winning the ball higher up pitch, keeping the ball and slowing it down when good passing options aren't available (Bruno and others are guilty of making silly/difficult passes for the sake of it when good options aren't available). Antony also positions himself really wide so as to stretch the play and create space in the half spaces. It's not even like he hasn't been productive so far. His goalscoring record has been pretty decent and has scored in big games.Which is not the sign of a great manager. One thing SAF was never afraid to do was to ditch a big signing and play a kid if the big signing hadn't been producing.
Some very stupid logic in this comment, good effort.He made a mistake signing for United. Don't think we'll be getting any Uruguayan players anytime soon. Seems like Alvarez, Caicedo and Fernandez made good career moves.
Some very stupid logic in this comment, good effort.
It's not really though, we've had Rashford, Lingard and McTominay become first team players. Greenwood was nailed down as a future star if he could have behaved like a normal human being. Shaw and Dalot both joined as teenagers and have established themselves as two really important players in the team. Garnacho is breaking through and looks like he'll have a very promising career at the club if he commits. I'd say its as good a track record as any of our top six rivals.Why? Our track record with young players is shite post Fergie
It's not really though, we've had Rashford, Lingard and McTominay become first team players. Greenwood was nailed down as a future star if he could have behaved like a normal human being. Shaw and Dalot both joined as teenagers and have established themselves as two really important players in the team. Garnacho is breaking through and looks like he'll have a very promising career at the club if he commits. I'd say its as good a track record as any of our top six rivals.
He made a mistake signing for United. Don't think we'll be getting any Uruguayan players anytime soon. Seems like Alvarez, Caicedo and Fernandez made good career moves.
I think you need to change your expectations, not every young player will make it for various reasons.We deserve no credit for Shaw & Dalot. We almost hugely fecked up two massively talented players - Shaw was a PFA Team of the Year player before he even joined us a 17 year old, and Dalot only got saved because of a managerial change. They've both made it inspite of the clubs dreadful mismanagement - not because of it.
Wonder how old Bukayo Saka, the scorer of a world-class goal against us today, is... Oh! He is 21. Exact same age as Pellistri, except nobody considers him to be a kid.
I guess players are only snowflake toddlers at 21 when they play for United… Everywhere else, most 21 year olds are good enough for a senior team. Got it.
Exactly!We are not even asking for him to start the big games but to just give the kid some time on the field here and there. Sancho has been gone for months and this kid has made 1 appearance in that period that's crazy.
Wonder how old Bukayo Saka, the scorer of a world-class goal against us today, is... Oh! He is 21. Exact same age as Pellistri, except nobody considers him to be a kid.
I guess players are only snowflake toddlers at 21 when they play for United… Everywhere else, most 21 year olds are good enough for a senior team. Got it.
That is my point. People claim Pellistri is not getting game time because he is a "kid". But that makes no sense. There may be other reasons why EtH is not playing him, but age is a very weak argument. He is not that young.That seems a little unfair considering how much game time Garnacho is getting at 18! A 17 year old centre mid is also a regular on the bench! Maybe Pellestri just isn’t good enough?
Difficult to see how he makes his way to United squad we got wingers in Rashford, Sancho, Anthony and Garnacho with Amad back from a successful loan spell. He is a really good right foot talent to have in the squad but our over investment in the wingers department not helping his cause.
Hope he moves with an option to rebuy in few years time.
Rashford and Garnacho play on the left. On the right we currently only have Antony, and when we needed to replace Antony we had to play Bruno there. That is how thin our right wing has been. We could have definitely used another talented right-winger, if Pellistri was good enough. Whether he is a starter for long-term is not the point, the point is – we have metric ton of games and nobody up front scoring but Rashford.Difficult to see how he makes his way to United squad we got wingers in Rashford, Sancho, Anthony and Garnacho with Amad back from a successful loan spell. He is a really good right foot talent to have in the squad but our over investment in the wingers department not helping his cause.
Hope he moves with an option to rebuy in few years time.
Yes, it’s one of the few things I can’t understand amongst ETH’s decisions. He was so much better than Elanga, yet has not played since.We are going to eff about and lose this guy. If he couldn't get a game against Palace after a good debute when is he going to play?
Maybe we should be asking Signor Mancini who he's talking about and go after them before they break out.That is my point. People claim Pellistri is not getting game time because he is a "kid". But that makes no sense. There may be other reasons why EtH is not playing him, but age is a very weak argument. He is not that young.
Also, this from Mancini
Wonder how old Bukayo Saka, the scorer of a world-class goal against us today, is... Oh! He is 21. Exact same age as Pellistri, except nobody considers him to be a kid.
I guess players are only snowflake toddlers at 21 when they play for United… Everywhere else, most 21 year olds are good enough for a senior team. Got it.
I hope this won't be taken the wrong way but the cynic in me suspects that managers hold certain players back to protect their favorites. I had this feeling with Ole, we know that Pellistiri and Amad, were club signings after we walked away from the Sancho deal, suppose Ole gave them a fair crack and they exploded would the club have signed Sancho the next season? Same with Pellistori here, if he plays well and does well then the manager is under pressure to play him over his €100m signing. Its just a thought.Yes, it’s one of the few things I can’t understand amongst ETH’s decisions. He was so much better than Elanga, yet has not played since.