Crazy Race.
Awesome Job from Bottas, Norris and Leclerc with that Ferrai.
Awesome Job from Bottas, Norris and Leclerc with that Ferrai.
F1 2020 Season
- Thread starter pauldyson1uk
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Agree, arrogance from Mercedes. They should have offered Bottas the 1st option to pit then if he said no then offer it Lewis. You cannot do what they did today. What is annoying Lewis was so much faster when following Bottas. Ridiculous from Mercedes.
I wonder why they didn’t let Lewis through at the end with a few laps to go. It’s cost him 3rd unless they appeal and win.
Lewis was probably already pissed about people not kneeling, he will be seething now after his team fannied him around.
Alonso esque drive from Leclerc. Maximising every opportunity.
Should have let Lewis pass Bottas before K-Mag's safety car accident
Result Austrian GP
Final Standing form the first race of the season, plenty of action
Mercedes mess up big time , would not let Lewis and Bottas race, then a 5 second penalty for Lewis, dropped him from 2nd to 4th.
Well done to Lando on 3rd cracking race.
Mercedes mess up big time , would not let Lewis and Bottas race, then a 5 second penalty for Lewis, dropped him from 2nd to 4th.
Well done to Lando on 3rd cracking race.
| 1 | Valtteri Bottas | Mercedes | ||||
| 2 | Charles Leclerc | Ferrari | 2.700 behind+2.700 | |||
| 3 | Lando Norris | McLaren | 5.491 behind+5.491 | |||
| 4 | Lewis Hamilton | Mercedes | 5.689 behind+5.689 | |||
| 5 | Carlos Sainz Jnr | McLaren | 8.903 behind+8.903 | |||
| 6 | Sergio Perez | Racing Point | 15.092 behind+15.092 | |||
| 7 | Pierre Gasly | AlphaTauri | 16.682 behind+16.682 | |||
| 8 | Esteban Ocon | Renault | 17.456 behind+17.456 | |||
| 9 | Antonio Giovinazzi | Alfa Romeo | 21.146 behind+21.146 | |||
| 10 | Sebastian Vettel | Ferrari | 24.545 behind+24.545 | |||
| 11 | Nicholas Latifi | Williams | 31.650 behind+31.650 | |||
| not classified NC | Daniil Kvyat | AlphaTauri | did not finish completed 70 laps DNF (70) | |||
| not classified NC | Alexander Albon | Red Bull | did not finish completed 69 laps DNF (69) | |||
| not classified NC | Kimi Raikkonen | Alfa Romeo | did not finish completed 54 laps DNF (54) | |||
| not classified NC | Romain Grosjean | Haas | did not finish completed 51 laps DNF (51) | |||
| not classified NC | George Russell | Williams | did not finish completed 51 laps DNF (51) | |||
| not classified NC | Kevin Magnussen | Haas | did not finish completed 25 laps DNF (25) | |||
| not classified NC | Lance Stroll | Racing Point | did not finish completed 22 laps DNF (22) | |||
| not classified NC | Daniel RicciardoRIC | Renault | did not finish completed 19 laps DNF (19) | |||
| not classified NC | Max Verstappen | Red Bull | did not finish completed 14 laps DNF (14) |
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What a fecking race
Well that was all a bit nuts. Entertaining though. Bummer for Lewis, fantastic for Leclerc and Norris.
Fun.
Fun.
For those math geeks out there...
Lando's fastest lap was 0.237 seconds faster than Lewis'
The difference between the two crossing the line was 0.198
0.039 the difference between 3rd and 4th
Lando's fastest lap was 0.237 seconds faster than Lewis'
The difference between the two crossing the line was 0.198
0.039 the difference between 3rd and 4th
There won't be an appeal here, it was a stonewall penalty by the rulebook.
Really? There's no relevance to that comment here, leave it to the current events thread.
Lewis was in the wrong here, Albon was ahead of him in the corner. He's already apologised.
Hope you enjoyed the race Lewis had today!
This is the F1 thread, Lewis is in F1, he's already came out and said that he's made the point to drivers and that he thinks a few of them don't understand the issues of racism. I would not at all be surprised if he was miffed at drivers not showing solidarity with the knee gesture. It's perfectly relevant thanks.
Which makes the decision to not let him past Bottas worse. Why let Lewis shorten the gab from 3 seconds to 0.7 with 2 laps to go to then not let him last on last lap.
Why was Hamilton penalised? What happened to letting drivers race? 
Of course it's relevant. The guy was quite vocal on the matter, obviously will be on his mind, and then all these events happen as well during the race.
If we're having a conversation about Lewis and today's race in an F1 thread it could be raised as a reason behind him being frustrated and angry. Just mentioning the kneeling thing doesn't mean the thread will go off the rail and turn into a BLM.
Not really fussed. Happy for Lando more than anything.
Lewis should have gone with his instinct and attacked Botas when he had the chance to, he will go all out next week to prove a point.
Really stupid of Mercedes not to let Hamilton pass Bottas in order to protect the 1/2.
Could be costly over a short season.
Madness. It was so obvious.
He's not even spoken to the media from driving onto the grid until he's got out of the car, you're insinuating or trying to link that his performance has been affected by people not taking a knee instead of the racing. That's my point on it having zero relevance, as he's not spoken to anyone about it.
This kind of race is the only way Hamilton can be stopped from winning another championship.
Hopefully there will be more of the same next week.
Behind Mercedes it looks like there will be a great battle for the season
Hopefully there will be more of the same next week.
Behind Mercedes it looks like there will be a great battle for the season
Well that race got a bit mental at end there. It was looking pretty dull for a long time with too much of it behind a safety car. Delighted for Lando and McClaren who I like quite a lot. However you really got to feel for Albon. To be denied that first podium in such a cruel fashion. I'm not sure who will be more annoyed after that race between him and his team mate. Elsewhere you have to admire the job done by LeClerc to drag that Ferrari to second. Especially when compared to his teammates performance. Albeit he made a big mistake but I can't believe Seb couldn't recover more from that.
Really? There’s even less competition than last year with Ferrari being so bad. Hamilton got two penalties, both had car issues, lots of safety cars to bunch up the field. And they’re still top.
Agreed. The gap that existed between Bottas and Albion tells you pretty much everything you need to know right now. Would Max have done a better job staying close to to Bottas? Perhaps, but he also would ve been passed by Hamilton.
Lots on here were blinded by being a fan, thinking this will have an impact on Hamilton steamrolling to another championship, before the race they were saying Bothas stands no chance, well he definitely wouldn’t if he was asked to simply move out of the way to save a 1-2.
I was referring to it being costly for Hamilton chances of his 7th championship.
There was at least 3 coming to together's in the race why was Hamilton the only one to get penalised?Why was Hamilton penalised? What happened to letting drivers race?
Don’t understand why Mercedes didn’t let Lewis past with 1.5-2 laps to go try try to build a couple of seconds.
They were nursing both cars, and both engines were turned right down.
This.....other teams need to get their shire together especially Ferrari. Before the SC they were ten secs ahead. Just give Hamilton the trophy already.
who exactly is going to challenge Hamilton for the championship, the only concevable threat is bothas and what you wanted to do would have damaged his chances a hell of a lot more as we all know Lewis is going to run away with it because bothas is not a marathon runner like Lewis.TBF Hamilton risked everything when he was closing the space for Albon and it didn't worked. He should let him go by. He lost 1 place because of that, Albon lost everything and this is second time in last 12 months that Lewis spun him.
Very happy for Lando and McLaren, Leclerc who magically drove that car in second place and Bottas who rightfully won.
Very happy for Lando and McLaren, Leclerc who magically drove that car in second place and Bottas who rightfully won.
Albon was already past him, you don't hit people when they overtake you just because you fecked up.Why was Hamilton penalised? What happened to letting drivers race?
Doesn’t change anything. Hamilton had better pace than Bottas all day. All he needed was 0.2 seconds over two laps.
Well if Albon was already past him (which he was not) how could Hamilton have hit him.
Albon was taking the risk by passing on the outside of turn 4 and as the video shows, Hamilton steering wheel did not show any change of direction. He was steering to the right.
Its called the B pillar rule (obviously metaphroic in F1) but essentialy when over half of a vehicle is ahead of the vehicle behind, the corner is then deemed to be the car in the leads corner and the car behind is responsible for conceeding position in order for both vehicles to safely run. Irrespective of whether Lewis's steering wheel did not show any change of direction, he carried speed through the corner which caused the front to understeer into the rear of Albon's Redbull. It was an avoidable collision caused by Hamilton (Albon is unaware of how much room he has by obvious fact of being alot further along) and Hamilton is lucky he only got a 5 second penalty considerng the impact it had on Albon. Considering the bullshit last year with Vettel at Canada and both vehicles safely continued, he got off very very lightly.
Personally, these situations should be a 30 second penalty not 5.
You're talking bollocks, Albon was already past Lewis, how else do you think the front of Lewis car hit Albon's car in the middle?
Lewis should be the one avoiding contact by reducing his speed on that scenario according to the rulebooks.
It's not the first time he's been penalised for thinking the rules don't apply to him. He just gets away with it because his Mercedes is usually way ahead of everybody else which means he barely gets into this kind of scenario.
Sorry boys, both wrong here.
First of all the corner is a tight slow right hander, you hug the apex tight then accelerate OUTWARDS towards the kerb. That is the racing line.
Albon tried to be cheeky and purposely brake late to go around the outside, but this means he ended up slowing down right on the exit of the corner. Overtaking on the outside of corners is always risky as you can pretty much guarantee the car inside you will naturally push outwards.
Albon obviously hoped/expected that Lewis would give up and not hold his line and let him passed, but clearly he was never going to do that.
From the onboard footage Hamilton is holding his wheel on complete right hand lock and never once lets off to purpose hit into Albon.
Yes it was unlucky but the exit of that corner is very tight and barely has room for 2 cars, let alone to race wheel to wheel at that point.
IF the footage showed Hamilton purposely ran wider to hit him i'd say yes clear penalty, but he didn't. For me this is a clear racing incident and no pen should have been given.
So now the dust has settled, he wasn't miffed at all with anyone not taking a knee. It had no bearing or relevance.
https://www.racefans.net/2020/07/06/hamilton-i-never-requested-or-demanded-anyone-to-take-a-knee/
Well in the last lap, they didn't really see McLaren turning the dials to 11 and had nothing to counter with it unless they wanted to force reliability. Them holding position was more important than risking losing the race win. Bottas' car was in a poorer state than Hamilton's.
Albon was past Hamilton at the point of contact.