and who wants to win a cup with 3 handles
Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:
<strong>and who wants to win a cup with 3 handles
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Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:
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not as painful as it must have been watching your lot get bitch slapped at home by a team that hasnt won a thing for 2 1/2 years hey knoxy</strong><hr></blockquote>
Ohh I bet it was far, far worse...
4 in a row you know...
Originally posted by Davo:
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Ohh I bet it was far, far worse...
4 in a row you know...
11 years and counting.
Originally posted by Davo:
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Ohh I bet it was far, far worse...
4 in a row you know...
the first two meant nothing as in we still pissed the league
the third we were obviously robbed by a cheating scouse defender and a ref combined
the fourth you beat us fair and square but your still only 2 points in front of us so id be worried if i was you, it may be down to liverpool that united have woken up so thanks mate
Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:
<strong>and who wants to win a cup with 3 handles
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Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:
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the first two meant nothing as in we still pissed the league
the third we were obviously robbed by a cheating scouse defender and a ref combined
the fourth you beat us fair and square but your still only 2 points in front of us so id be worried if i was you, it may be down to liverpool that united have woken up so thanks mate
We're ahead of you and we should be worried??
This time last year we were behind you..that was far more worrying..
4 wins in a row
That must 'kin hurt
Originally posted by Davo:
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That must 'kin hurt
i wasnt best chuffed but id rather win 3 titles in a row how bouts you davo?
Originally posted by Davo:
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4 wins in a row
will fecking hurt when we win the PL 4 years on the trot.
Liverpool's best two matches a season are against United...
4 games in a row?
How about 11 years in a row without winning IT.
How about 11 years in a row without winning IT.
Originally posted by Fergiesarmy:
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i wasnt best chuffed but id rather win 3 titles in a row how bouts you davo?
I totally agree..
But you ain't won owt this season yet..
and we've already done you twice..
Originally posted by Davo:
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I totally agree..
But you ain't won owt this season yet..
and we've already done you twice..
you always beat us.. anything new?
just like the 80's, when we used to do you over... but you'd always win the CROWN.
how times have changed..
Originally posted by Davo:
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I totally agree..
But you ain't won owt this season yet..
and we've already done you twice..
well you can have the charity shield with pleasure it can go with your cup with three handles!
if we beat arsenal which i think we will and am preparing my usual once a season large bet will you be getting concerned about the team that was supposedly finished two weeks ago?
Ok ok, Barcelona, Leeds, Porto, Arsenal, Roma, Olympiakos, Chelsea.......All without a doubt shit teams that we beat on the way to our "plastic" treble.
Now I dont mind criticism when its well deserved but the only reason is labelled "plastic" is because its Liverpool and you lot still cant get over us being the greatest team in English history
Now I dont mind criticism when its well deserved but the only reason is labelled "plastic" is because its Liverpool and you lot still cant get over us being the greatest team in English history
Originally posted by Wizadora:
<strong>Ok ok, Barcelona, Leeds, Porto, Arsenal, Roma, Olympiakos, Chelsea.......All without a doubt shit teams that we beat on the way to our "plastic" treble.
Now I dont mind criticism when its well deserved but the only reason is labelled "plastic" is because its Liverpool and you lot still cant get over us being the greatest team in English history
just read the post on cheap trophy
Originally posted by Wizadora:
<strong>Ok ok, Barcelona, Leeds, Porto, Arsenal, Roma, Olympiakos, Chelsea.......All without a doubt shit teams that we beat on the way to our "plastic" treble.
Now I dont mind criticism when its well deserved but the only reason is labelled "plastic" is because its Liverpool and you lot still cant get over us being the greatest team in English history
oh right. the same barca that was up for the Cl, didn't give a fcuk about the wortless euro leftover trophy..
the PL and Cl is where its at.. the big boys league.
Let's get this right. THE (emphasise the THE) Treble refers to the three most important cups that can be won by any one team. Liverpool DID do a treble last year, but not THE Treble.
It's quite easy to understand really - The UEFA Cup is the second division European Cup, the Worthington (League Cup) is thought of by most teams as being a training ground for their young talent, and the FA Cup is a very very important cup to win. However, The PL is the most important title in England, followed by the FA Cup, and the European Cup is the most important in Europe.
Conclusion:
In 1998/1999 Manchester United FC won THE Treble.
In 2000/2001 Liverpool FC won a treble (called plastic by some, which I cannot go along with because the FA Cup was a great achievement!)
It's quite easy to understand really - The UEFA Cup is the second division European Cup, the Worthington (League Cup) is thought of by most teams as being a training ground for their young talent, and the FA Cup is a very very important cup to win. However, The PL is the most important title in England, followed by the FA Cup, and the European Cup is the most important in Europe.
Conclusion:
In 1998/1999 Manchester United FC won THE Treble.
In 2000/2001 Liverpool FC won a treble (called plastic by some, which I cannot go along with because the FA Cup was a great achievement!)
The worthington cup is not a training ground for the youth squad to most teams. It is that to a few arrogant "top" teams.....namely the mancs.
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>That's why Liverpool couldn't give a shit if they won it this year,</strong><hr></blockquote>
Why did we play a decent side in it then?
Why did all the players look so gutted when we lost?
We don't share your disdain for the wortington cup, accept it.
Originally posted by Knoxy:
<strong>We don't share your disdain for the wortington cup, accept it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I do accept it, but the title of the thread asked for explanaition, which is what I've tried to do without being silly or abusive like some of the other so-called football fans in this forum
To be honest I am quite surprised at the response, at least 20% of the posts actually make a little sense ......WTF!!!!
......WTF!!!!Originally posted by Wizadora:
<strong>Ok ok, Barcelona, Leeds, Porto, Arsenal, Roma, Olympiakos, Chelsea.......All without a doubt shit teams that we beat on the way to our "plastic" treble.
Now I dont mind criticism when its well deserved but the only reason is labelled "plastic" is because its Liverpool and you lot still cant get over us being the greatest team in English history
Yeah that's probably it
imo a treble includes the league
Worthless cup - a second rated English cup competition
Uefa cup - a second rated European cup competition
FA cup - Great!
Liverpool's treble = a plastic treble....
Uefa cup - a second rated European cup competition
FA cup - Great!
Liverpool's treble = a plastic treble....
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>Let's get this right. THE (emphasise the THE) Treble refers to the three most important cups that can be won by any one team. Liverpool DID do a treble last year, but not THE Treble.
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Bollocks. So why then is THE double not the Premiership and the CL? By this logic the premiership and FA cup is only A double, surely? THE treble is only named as such because that's the name YOU gave it when you won it. In which case, we'll claim THE Cup Treble (two of yours were leagues) and THE Double Treble. 'Cos we did them first. Sound fair?
Originally posted by morpheus:
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Bollocks. So why then is THE double not the Premiership and the CL? By this logic the premiership and FA cup is only A double, surely? THE treble is only named as such because that's the name YOU gave it when you won it. In which case, we'll claim THE Cup Treble (two of yours were leagues) and THE Double Treble. 'Cos we did them first. Sound fair?
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Still a plastic treble.... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
Originally posted by morpheus:
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Bollocks. So why then is THE double not the Premiership and the CL? By this logic the premiership and FA cup is only A double, surely? THE treble is only named as such because that's the name YOU gave it when you won it. In which case, we'll claim THE Cup Treble (two of yours were leagues) and THE Double Treble. 'Cos we did them first. Sound fair?
The first thing any club tries to win is:
a) Their domestic league (can't have a treble without a league - OK!)
b) Their domestic cup (especially in England as the FAC is so prestigious)
This makes the double. After that, the next highest cup a club can try to win is:
c) The top competition in their continent (in our case the CL)
This makes THE treble, as any of the following are simply domestic trebles or second rate trebles as they consist of three cups that are not all the most prestigious that can be won:
Premier League
FA Cup
League Cup
Premier League
League Cup
UEFA Cup
FA Cup
League Cup
UEFA Cup
Premier League
FA CUP
UEFA Cup
Only the following is THE Treble (THE because it is the highest that can be achieved):
Premier League
FA Cup
Champions League (European Cup)
You simply can't get any better than that, and adding the League Cup, European Super Cup, World Club Cup, Intercontinental Cup (Wow United have won something Liverpool never have), and Charity Shield is simply a bonus. Period!
Originally posted by geordie1:
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Seem to remember your lot getting bitch slapped by a team that hasn't won a thing for THIRTY-FOUR YEARS. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
so the first division doesnt count?
Originally posted by morpheus:
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Well, I'd sooner the club won a plastic treble than 68000 plastic fans.</strong><hr></blockquote>
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You and your fellow part time fans seems to have trouble filling your wee stadium for a lot of games these days....
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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This makes THE treble, as any of the following are simply domestic trebles or second rate trebles as they consist of three cups that are not all the most prestigious that can be won:
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That's my point. Surely the league and fa cup then is 'just a domestic double'. The two most prestigious trophies are the league and CL therefore they should be THE double. I think not. It's a history thing. THE double is historically the league and FA cup because that was the first double it was ever possible to win. In which case, IF (and I don't know the answer) the League cup has been around longer than the European Cup (as far as English clubs were involved) then the REAL treble must be League+FA+League Cup, n'est pa? QED
Originally posted by morpheus:
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In which case, IF (and I don't know the answer) the League cup has been around longer than the European Cup (as far as English clubs were involved) </strong><hr></blockquote>
But it hasn't....
Originally posted by ChampionsElect:
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But it hasn't....
Fair Do's.
If I believed you.
Which, obviously I won't as it buggers me argument up somewhat.
Originally posted by morpheus:
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Fair Do's.
If I believed you.
Which, obviously I won't as it buggers me argument up somewhat.
As the pioner Man United has always been, we were the first English club to take part in the European Cup, in 1956. The League Cup started in the early 60's (in 1963 if I'm not too wrong), with Aston Villa winning it.
Originally posted by Suedesi:
<strong>4 games in a row?
How about 11 years in a row without winning IT.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hate to point this out to SuedeHead but he leaves himself wide open. How about 26 years without us winning it.
Originally posted by ManUinOz:
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Hate to point this out to SuedeHead but he leaves himself wide open. How about 26 years without us winning it.
That's history mate. I'm more interested in the present.
Is Phil Thompsons nose PLASTIC?????
I know the seats at Anfield are plastic cos i can see plenty of empty ones at most of their games.
One thing that isn't plastic is their style of play, i'd call it Wooden........
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I know the seats at Anfield are plastic cos i can see plenty of empty ones at most of their games.
One thing that isn't plastic is their style of play, i'd call it Wooden........
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