The Premier League definitely cares, because they want the oil money to keep pouring into the league. It’s very much in their interest to give City a clean bill of health.
Everton deducted 10 points for PSR breach (reduced to 6) | Deducted further 2 points for second breach
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I love how RedCafe picks & chooses who are the bad guys and who are the good guys.
If this was Liverpool you'd all be loving this. Everton broke the rules and have been punished. I don't get this "poor old little plucky Everton' narrative. They threw money around and now they're paying for it with points deductions.
Feck them, Scouse cnuts.
If this was Liverpool you'd all be loving this. Everton broke the rules and have been punished. I don't get this "poor old little plucky Everton' narrative. They threw money around and now they're paying for it with points deductions.
Feck them, Scouse cnuts.
Assume previously relegated teams will kick up a fuss about this, with Everton just about staying up while breaking the rules, and be looking a pay day out of it
You'd like to think an appeal would be done before the end of the season, or you get into murky territory where they potentially get relegated but then the points deduction is reduced or lifted altogether and they would have stayed up.
Let’s be honest, we’re only looking at this in relation to City and Chelsea.
People say this but Italy had no issue relegating Juventus. That was at a point when Serie A had declined from indisputably being the best in world football up to about 1999 so they needed a strong Juventus at that point but ultimately did the right thing.
Juventus did the time and then came back very strong in the 2010s and started making CL finals again.
I agree in terms of worldwide coverage Man City not being involved in a title race wouldn't hurt at all if it was between Liverpool, Man. United, Chelsea and Arsenal for a couple of seasons.
To me they're actually fairly expendable, especially when Guardiola bails out which is a day coming pretty soon.
They don’t even have to catch Bournemouth, they’d have to catch Luton. Four points would put them second to last ahead of Burnley and behind Sheffield and Luton. Both of those teams are on 0,5 points per game or less. That’s horrendous and like 18 points over the course of a season. Everton managed 36, so double that amount, last year when they looked terrible.
Someone else pointed out that this is the best season for it to happen. The quality at the bottom of the PL this season is quite poor and they should stay up anyway
But it’ll be reduced anyway. Which we all know
But it’ll be reduced anyway. Which we all know
just love the sport but hate the competitions and governing bodies. my enjoyment of football has increased with not caring about our league position, or how results of other games impact us. it’s all shit nowadays as the actual game isn’t the focus of things. it’s all strictly business, with everyone clawing over the top of each other for an extra teat to milk. city won’t be touched for their crimes, barcelona won’t be touched for their crimes. there’s too much at stake for the money men to allow that to happen. cases like this against everton are purely show trails, designed to show some semblance of balance and fair play. it’s all an act, with the small guys being the fall guys. i used to like football as an escape from adult life, it’s just another way to be forced to take a dick in your mouth whilst some tells you it’s an ice pop.
just enjoy football for watching 22 men kick a ball around the field in a pleasing manner and then forget about it at full time. just worry about the next match when the time comes, all the while feeling smug that we aren’t the ones who killed the game.
I think people just want consistency and I don't think anyone has said anything about poor old plucky Everton.
Would have to be this season where we've seen the worst teams come up. Feel for the other teams who went down last couple of years. I have an irrational dislike for Everton, I'd love to see them relegated.
In 97 when the Hart Foundation left the WWF, Owen Hart decided to stay. Shawn Michaels described him as the nugget who just wouldn't flush down. Well Everton are the nuggets of the Premier League.
In 97 when the Hart Foundation left the WWF, Owen Hart decided to stay. Shawn Michaels described him as the nugget who just wouldn't flush down. Well Everton are the nuggets of the Premier League.
i think most are upset that it’s seemingly one rule for me and one rule for thee.
FFS we’re now going to face a new points deduction angry bounce on Sunday.
Maybe you’re the precedent others will be measured by. Yeah right!
Is anyone feeling sorry for them? I'm certainly not. They cheated, they deserve to be punished.
Now we wait and hope that City get their comeuppance.
It’s just a matter of paying the right people off.
If you don't laugh, you'll cry. If Everton are in breach then so be it, but we have had a farcical, joke of a club winning title after title, a treble thrown in for good measure, with 115 charges that look like they'll just evade until the end of time.
Nobody can take this sport seriously, both on and off field it's rock bottom stuff and will not be reocognisable in another decade. It's already changed so much since the turn of the century.
What I expect is for this to set up city for a 10pt deduction, to be imposed in a year when they win the title by about 12 points, or end up finishing second anyway. Big deal, no harm done
Nobody can take this sport seriously, both on and off field it's rock bottom stuff and will not be reocognisable in another decade. It's already changed so much since the turn of the century.
What I expect is for this to set up city for a 10pt deduction, to be imposed in a year when they win the title by about 12 points, or end up finishing second anyway. Big deal, no harm done
Yeah it seems a bit lopsided. If you are in danger of going down, much better to cheat, take the 10 point deduction the next season and stay up than try and make it work within the rules and take the hit of demotion.
Why? Were they doing Zumba this morning?
Think it's the complete opposite, think people want the hammer of justice to land firm on city just as it has everton.
I agree and I think they will.
Take a look at the Everton forums - they're all convinced that City are next.
This decision needs explaining on mic’d up immediately
This is now the real test. If Chelsea and City get off without a massive punishment the “game” is well and truly “gone”
This is the last chance saloon for the PL to right the wrongs and have some semblance of sporting integrity.
If the punishments aren’t absolutely massive now, compared to this, they will have sold their soul and it’s an impossible watch for me.
City like Prince Andrew mate. Don't sweat.
That's how you handle one of this situations no mercy. Go after the ones that are cheating their way out, Everton you're the real problem. City? Nah bruh Everton is the one we need to go after.
With this, the PL are putting pressure on themselves to not let City get away with their charges either, provided they are guilty...and it's likely that they are.
it means the premier league can cleverly close the chapter on the city and chelsea debacles. all future correspondence on the matter will show “the blue team were adequately punished for their crimes and we consider an end to matter.”
They're 2 points off luton and out of the relegation zone. With 4 wins already this season they could make up that 10 points in 5 or 6 games and be laughing by Jan
Toothless. They should be given enough points to be guaranteed relegation at the very least. When they cheated 3 clubs went down and their cheating might have been the difference in them staying up - who was it? Burnley, Watford, Norwich? Plus they have had 3 years in the prem because of it
They've been getting away with it for years, their success is undeserved and they've corrupted the game
Nah, I don't think this is the case. If Everton are getting 10pts docked, City will get a lot more depending on how many of the charges they can make stick.
The only team that may get away with it is Chelsea as they have owned up to the breaches and self-declared some or all of them. I can see a heavy fine and a 10pt deduction with another point deduction suspended - with the justification that by owning up teams will be dealt with less harshly. That kind of action does make sense as it gives incentive to teams who have broken the rules to play ball.
If I were City however, I would actually be bricking it a little after this. The only reason why their changes are dragging on is due to them lawyering up to the hilt, taking out injuctions and the sheer amount of charges they are facing.
If Chelsea and City(even more, cause they actually have a case ongoing against them), don't get punished to the correct extent, as Everton has, than supporters and the people around the other PL teams should protest and do whatever they can to make the FA and whoever is in charge know that this is unacceptable and outrageous. "Everyone and their nan" knows what City are up to and how they've gotten to where they are now.. and it almost feels like it is "accepted" and "normal".
Give them a month to edit the shit out of it first.
No sympathy for Everton for breaching the rules, I will have sympathy for them however when City get off scot free for worse crimes.
social media reaction to this says different, it’s literally only being spoken about in the context of City
Didn't Chelsea get fined in the summer for an FFP breach from Uefa or did I imagine reading that?
Chelsea's main argument seems to be this all happened under Abramovich so don't punish the current ownership. Way Todd Boehly is running them currently is basically a 20 point deduction already each season!
Will Everton have to sell in January to keep the financial situation in check??
I assume they are still making a loss which could incur further punishment should it not be dealt with?
I assume they are still making a loss which could incur further punishment should it not be dealt with?