Europa/Conference or outside?

PoTMS said:
Under no circumstances is playing Conference League any good to us. Europa League is now just about tolerable.
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Why??

I don't see what is so wrong with playing in the Conference League, yes of course I want to see us finish as high up the table as is still possible, but if we end up in the Conference League, then I will look forward to it.
I quite like the idea of playing teams that we haven't played previously.
It can get all a bit "samey" in the Champions League, so a bit of a difference is sometimes welcome.

It is like if you are always eating at 5 star restaurants, the odd McDonald's every now and again, becomes not as bad, as always eating in McDonald's.
 
Europa League for me.

Gives ETH more games to get his ideas across and look at these players. Also gives us a second chance of getting into the CL next season.
 
Europa League is a potential route to the champions league so i'd much rather be in that. I'd be happy with any trophy next season though as we look to rebuild, and if ten Hag's first trophy is the Conference League then so be it.
 
MUW4Eva said:
Why??

I don't see what is so wrong with playing in the Conference League, yes of course I want to see us finish as high up the table as is still possible, but if we end up in the Conference League, then I will look forward to it.
I quite like the idea of playing teams that we haven't played previously.
It can get all a bit "samey" in the Champions League, so a bit of a difference is sometimes welcome.

It is like if you are always eating at 5 star restaurants, the odd McDonald's every now and again, becomes not as bad, as always eating in McDonald's.
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I suppose you wouldn't mind us having a stint in the Championship either then?
 
If only Uefa hadn't invented this pointless extra Conference League, we would either be in Europa League or no Europe at all next season.
Conference will be just a complete waste of time if we're in it next season.
What's the reward for winning it?
Qualification for Europa League?
What an incentive.
 
MUW4Eva said:
Why??

I don't see what is so wrong with playing in the Conference League, yes of course I want to see us finish as high up the table as is still possible, but if we end up in the Conference League, then I will look forward to it.
I quite like the idea of playing teams that we haven't played previously.
It can get all a bit "samey" in the Champions League, so a bit of a difference is sometimes welcome.

It is like if you are always eating at 5 star restaurants, the odd McDonald's every now and again, becomes not as bad, as always eating in McDonald's.
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Smaller clubs in the competition, therefore generally speaking smaller stadiums, therefore smaller away allocations. In addition, the final is at a 20k seater stadium ffs whereas the Europa final is in Bucharest with a 65k capacity, so again, more travelling reds if we get there.
 
Dimitar09 said:
If only Uefa hadn't invented this pointless extra Conference League, we would either be in Europa League or no Europe at all next season.
Conference will be just a complete waste of time if we're in it next season.
What's the reward for winning it?
Qualification for Europa League?
What an incentive.
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There's no point entering the League Cup or FA Cup then either.

You're essentially advocating playing for The Arsene Wenger Trophy for 4th place.
 
MUW4Eva said:
Why??

I don't see what is so wrong with playing in the Conference League, yes of course I want to see us finish as high up the table as is still possible, but if we end up in the Conference League, then I will look forward to it.
I quite like the idea of playing teams that we haven't played previously.
It can get all a bit "samey" in the Champions League, so a bit of a difference is sometimes welcome.

It is like if you are always eating at 5 star restaurants, the odd McDonald's every now and again, becomes not as bad, as always eating in McDonald's.
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People are scared of a little banter, that’s honestly all it is. The schedule is no different, and you’re right, there would be lots of new stadiums for the away fans. Not to mention the coefficient is basically the same, so it’s important to be in one of them.

Obviously the Europa is the better competition so we need to try and aim for that, but there’s no complaints, if we finish seventh the players deserve to play in the Conference League next year.
 
If we go to the conference league, no regular starter should play. Just play the kids for experience
 
Europa 100%. Winning a European trophy would be great and it is by no means an easy competition to win. Plus it gives you another avenue to get into the CL. Its a no-brainer.
 
Morpheus 7 said:
Because it's a garbage competition with no benefit for first team.
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Why is it a "garbage" competition??

Why do you think that way?

Yes it is a new competition, but all tournaments start as new at one point.

If we win it, we will be the only side to have won all of the European trophies, that is something to be proud of, and want to see I think.
 
MUW4Eva said:
Why is it a "garbage" competition??

Why do you think that way?

Yes it is a new competition, but all tournaments start as new at one point.

If we win it, we will be the only side to have won all of the European trophies, that is something to be proud of, and want to see I think.
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I doubt Real Madrid will be jealous we've won the conference and beaten them to the grand slam.
 
MUW4Eva said:
Why is it a "garbage" competition??

Why do you think that way?

Yes it is a new competition, but all tournaments start as new at one point.

If we win it, we will be the only side to have won all of the European trophies, that is something to be proud of, and want to see I think.
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I just think it's a poor competition with little benefits. I also think it effects league form with winning it entry to the Europa league as a prize. At least EL has spot in CL for winner. Each to his own but I wouldn't be bothered if we or a rival ever won it.
 
The more games the better, this coming season is to get the team working together and getting to know a system of play. Aim is to get back to the CL the season after and if we can win a trophy along the way, it can only help with confidence even if it is only the Europa League, Conference League or Caraboa Cup. Anything else will be a bonus.

No more teams of individuals.
 
MUW4Eva said:
Why?

If we are in it, we should aim to win it.
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I’m thinking we’ll have a squad in a rebuild - again! We will not have a squad capable of competing in 4 competitions. We should have our priorities right and I feel our focus should be on the league and maybe the FA Cup not the conference which was anyway formed for smaller clubs to have a chance to play European football.
 
united for life said:
I’m thinking we’ll have a squad in a rebuild - again! We will not have a squad capable of competing in 4 competitions. We should have our priorities right and I feel our focus should be on the league and maybe the FA Cup not the conference which was anyway formed for smaller clubs to have a chance to play European football.
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It is irrelevant as to the reason why it was created, if we are in a tournament, then we should have the aim to win it.

Why be all snobbish, and think that this tournament is beneath us (I am not talking about you personally, just talking in more broad or general terms), when if we are in it, then it isn't beneath us, or we are tol big, of too good for it.

I would be delighted to win this tournament if we were in it, as it isn't as if on the men's side we are used to winning tournaments in recent times is it?
 
Our squad players need game time in order to learn the system so any European competition is better than none.

I think it'll do us good, first team will be more rested than league competitors and more games for the youth/fringe players.
 
If it's Europa, try to win it, if it's Conference league, play youngsters and test if some squad players that invariably stick around can impress Ten Hag.
 
Since we no longer have the bust route (which I preferred), Europa is the better option now. There is option to downgrade to ELC.
 
No, why outside? As people before said, if it's ECL play youngsters, play those who need minutes after inevitable injuries, and in later stages try to win it.
It will be painful to watch us there, but that doesn't matter
 
MUW4Eva said:
It is irrelevant as to the reason why it was created, if we are in a tournament, then we should have the aim to win it.

Why be all snobbish, and think that this tournament is beneath us (I am not talking about you personally, just talking in more broad or general terms), when if we are in it, then it isn't beneath us, or we are tol big, of too good for it.

I would be delighted to win this tournament if we were in it, as it isn't as if on the men's side we are used to winning tournaments in recent times is it?
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let’s say we make the champions league? Would you start the same players in the Carabao Cup for instance, or would you rotate? Historically, we’ve always rotated. I’m using the same thought process with this cup. I understand what you are saying, but we can not, given our expected squad for next year, to compete for everything we are part of.
 
The Europa League is our level at the moment. It's a good competition to try and win a champions league spot. And a trophy of course.
 
More games gives the team more chance of gel-ing quicker. And we could always give the Younger players some game time.

also on a personal note the season is so boring without European football
 
united for life said:
let’s say we make the champions league? Would you start the same players in the Carabao Cup for instance, or would you rotate? Historically, we’ve always rotated. I’m using the same thought process with this cup. I understand what you are saying, but we can not, given our expected squad for next year, to compete for everything we are part of.
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All depends on the draw, strength of out respective opponents etc etc.

But there is no reason why a club of our stature, shouldn't have the aim to win as many trophies per season as possible.

If we are in a tournament, then we should have the aim to win it.
 
I would actually welcome the Conference. It will be an adventure to unusual lands and we will be lording it over the weaker sides. It will help us get our mojo back.
 
LawmanMan said:
I would actually welcome the Conference. It will be an adventure to unusual lands and we will be lording it over the weaker sides. It will help us get our mojo back.
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I’ll embrace it. Will have no shame once playing in it. We could be the first side to win the main four UEFA competitions.
 
Literally saved by Brighton defeating WHU to secure Europe league. Manchester United everyone.
 
Epic stuff today to qualify for the Europa League. Enjoyed that one. Thanks to all the players, management and the Fans to make this possible.
 
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