Euro 2024 Draw

Not great, not terrible for us. Getting Scotland from Pot 2 was pretty much the best possible outcome but Germany from Pot 1 is... not great and Switzerland are one of the strongest from Pot 4.

Still, just being there will be fantastic. Especially if I manage to get tickets.
Germany were the weakest team in Pot 1. Switzerland are not were they were.
 
Everything except England or France winning Euro, will be huge surprise.
 
Everything except England or France winning Euro, will be huge surprise.
Wouldn't England winning be a huge surprise? They never win anything. Portugal or Spain winning wouldnt shock the world. Even Italy suddenly turning up could happen.
 
Everything except England or France winning Euro, will be huge surprise.

It would be one of football's great mysteries if Harry Maguire and Gareth Southgate couldn't lead England to a trophy.
 
Germany were the weakest team in Pot 1. Switzerland are not were they were.
They are still the hosts though, that makes a difference.

I hope you're right about Switzerland though.
 
These draws are almost so much more underwhelming with 24 teams as 16. Spain, Croatia, Italy and Albania could have been great - like Germany, France, Portugal and Hungary in the last Euros - but instead it will most likely just lead to the three strong teams beating Albania and going through.
 
Slovenia finally at the EUROs and we play the same teams we always play. So underwhelming. I am definitely going to at least two of the games though, should be fun.
 
Everything except England or France winning Euro, will be huge surprise.
I think Portugal looks pretty good and in a tournament knockout round it is often about luck, a penalty etc

But france and england are of course the teams to beat if you wanna win it all.
 
Not too bad a draw for Denmark. We should have a chance to finish first or second in that group.
 
Looking at the bracket:

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The path of Group C winner England would most likely include Runner-up from Group B (Italy/Croatia/Spain) in the QF, and France in the SF (Winner of group D). Not easy to reach another final..
France vs England final is impossible in any case if both win their respective groups, as expected
 
We (Germany) might eventually make it out of the group stages now :D

Group B and D are insanely tough though
 
Looking at the bracket:

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The path of Group C winner England would most likely include Runner-up from Group B (Italy/Croatia/Spain) in the QF, and France in the SF (Winner of group D). Not easy to reach another final..
France vs England final is impossible in any case if both win their respective groups, as expected

What's England path if they finish 2nd e.g. 2018 where they had much easier run to 3rd play off than Belgium did?

They'll be tested in this Euros for sure well before the final.
 
Not too bad a draw for Denmark. We should have a chance to finish first or second in that group.
You struggled to finish above Slovenia in the qualifiers. Finishing above England is extremely optimistic. Not saying it cant happen but I think 2,3,4 could finish in any order.
 
What's England path if they finish 2nd e.g. 2018 where they had much easier run to 3rd play off than Belgium did?

Winner group A (Germany?) followed by winner group B (Spain?) and then most likely winner group F (Portugal?) or runner-up group D (Netherlands?).
These things never play out as planned but that doesn't sound like an easier path.
 
Winner group A (Germany?) followed by winner group B (Spain?) and then most likely winner group F (Portugal?) or runner-up group D (Netherlands?).
These things never play out as planned but that doesn't sound like an easier path.

Ouch. Germany will certainly win Group A and Spain historically have a good record v Croatia so you'd fancy them to sneak 1st spot in their group. Think Portugal would give England loads of issues if they met with their quality in central midfield and out wide so that's pretty much the worst possible knock out route possible for England, Germany on home turf would be much harder to beat than in 2021.
 
I think Portugal looks pretty good and in a tournament knockout round it is often about luck, a penalty etc
Will depend on the moment of the players in June, and particularly if 3 players can perform on a consistent basis for different reasons. Bruno Fernandes, Ruben Dias and Cristiano, and it has nothing to do with club football but their usual roles for the NT, and if Martinez is brave enough to rotate a 39 years old CR, which I am doubtfull.

Anything less than winning the group or being eliminated before the quarter finals is a failure, winning depends on a lot of things, not just the individual quality of the players, but luck, injuries, suspended players, red cards, so on, reason why I suspect a lot when I see statements like only France or England can win it, and it has nothing to do with their teams as a whole.