No longer top scorer in the CL. Do not want.
Didn't Martial cost more, with far less impressive credentials? I suspect it will be nearer £65m?Whoever buys him will pay south of £50m plus bonuses. I think they’ll get solid value in that too.
Watching the likes of Lewa and Kane spank cannon fodders time after time makes me more and more desperate for this signing. These kind of center forwards are so rare. He scores for fun and is never satisfied, even when he scored a triple hat-trick in the u20 WC he wasn't fully content because he felt there were more goals for him there.
We need a CF that the opposition fear. Someone that takes opponents by the scruff of their necks. We haven't scored a league hat-trick for almost 7 years. It's embarrassing.
Didn't Martial cost more, with far less impressive credentials? I suspect it will be nearer £65m?
my bad!No Martial cost a little more than half that. £36m up front and he’s barely made his addons so it’s still short of £50m overall.
my bad!
You’re wrong, so so wrong. Martial cost €50m euros up front(at the time it was £36m at the current exchange rate), to be paid in two instalments of €25m. Rising to a potential €80m in total. With €10m euros based on very easily achievable appearances target and a further €10m for a very achievable goal scoring target. The final €10m was something like if he won the balon d’or. We have paid €70m so far. If Martial is sold before all the add ons are paid, we are obliged to split the difference of the profit 50-50 with Monaco, for example if we’ve sold him today for €90m, we would have made a profit of €20m, therefore we would pay €10m to Monaco. I’ve read the full contract that was leaked by Footyleaks.No Martial cost a little more than half that. £36m up front and he’s barely made his addons so it’s still short of £50m overall.
Think that you could be right. As Ole knows Haaland from his Molde days, he might the epitome of what Ole wants his striker to be like but we just don't know it yet.I don't think Ole would even be interested in Haland if he didn't have some sort of plan about how to incorporate him, Rashford, and Martial. Say what you want about him as a manager but he absolutely has a plan about how he wants to build this team - he is not the type to make a signing without any plan in place about how to get the best out of him.
Not sure who Daniel Taylor is but like you said Raiola might want him to come to us as we will probably be prepared to pay him a higher fee for securing Haaland's services than anybody else. Thus making the greedy tw^t even richer than he already is.Daniel Taylor doesn’t think Raiola would be a problem. Woody can deal with him and he probably loves dealing with us because we pay and have made him very wealthy.
Not sure who Daniel Taylor is but like you said Raiola might want him to come to us as we will probably be prepared to pay him a higher fee for securing Haaland's services than anybody else. Thus making the greedy tw^t even richer than he already is.
You’re wrong, so so wrong. Martial cost €50m euros up front(at the time it was £36m at the current exchange rate), to be paid in two instalments of €25m. Rising to a potential €80m in total. With €10m euros based on very easily achievable appearances target and a further €10m for a very achievable goal scoring target. The final €10m was something like if he won the balon d’or. We have paid €70m so far. If Martial is sold before all the add ons are paid, we are obliged to split the difference of the profit 50-50 with Monaco, for example if we’ve sold him today for €90m, we would have made a profit of €20m, therefore we would pay €10m to Monaco. I’ve read the full contract that was leaked by Footyleaks.
Daniel Taylor was the Guardian's senior football writer for many years before moving to The Athletic recently. He's been covering United since 1998. He said that despite what's happened with Pogba and Mkhitaryan the word he gets from United is that the relationship with Raiola isn't a problem, even that Woody likes his style because he's straight forward.
Isn't Haaland Sr. his agent? Raiola is juts adviser from what I have read in various reports.
Thank you very much for sharing this information . As he has been covering us for so long he should know quite a bit. If Woodward does get on with Raiola, I see that as a positive so hopefully it mean that any deals we get done through him may go through quicker unlike the vast amount of time we spent last window trying to get them done last window.Daniel Taylor was the Guardian's senior football writer for many years before moving to The Athletic recently. He's been covering United since 1998. He said that despite what's happened with Pogba and Mkhitaryan the word he gets from United is that the relationship with Raiola isn't a problem, even that Woody likes his style because he's straight forward.
Just out of curiosity: Can you name a few of these "many" players that has showed off against big teams in the CL and/or scoring a lot in a class B league that has faded into nothingness?
If one of those examples have as good as or better numbers than Haaland, I'd be very surprised to say the least. Going through stats from WWII to this date there isn't many players at all who can show similar minutes per goal and minute per goalcontribution. Pele pulled similar numbers in the late 50s and early 60s playing for Santos, and those numbers included friendlies and a majority of games from the Campeonato Paulista (league of the Brazilian state of Sao Paulo where they met a lot of very inferior teams). Haaland is definitely in his breakthrough season and there is no such thing as a sure thing with a 19 year old, but if it is just a display of good form, it is historically good to put it like that.
I think buying a young striker is a bad idea. Is ST out there thats 25-27 and is good? Last thing we need is another player with barely any experience. Do you not think hes doing well simply because hes got a solid team around him and capable players. Plus its irrelevant which striker we buy if united don't buy a midfielder who can attack and be creative. That's the main problem right now.
I think buying a young striker is a bad idea. Is ST out there thats 25-27 and is good? Last thing we need is another player with barely any experience. Do you not think hes doing well simply because hes got a solid team around him and capable players. Plus its irrelevant which striker we buy if united don't buy a midfielder who can attack and be creative. That's the main problem right now.
Oh was paul in the last 5 matches? I forgot.He's currently playing in a team of kids with a Japanese strike partner the same age as him and we already have a world Cup winning midfielder who can attack and be creative and his first name is Paul in case you forgot.
We desperately need another striker, as judged by our performances when Martial was out.
I’ll wager Lewandowski wasn’t this prolific at the same ageFit and playing v Genk tomorrow. I'll be pretty hyped if he follows the Polish Superman and bags 4 quick one
I agree with you that what we need is proven quality to bring this team on especially in midfield.Oh was paul in the last 5 matches? I forgot.
Alves was also 5 years older than Haaland.Alfonso Alves comes to mind, 45 Goals in 39 games for Heerenveen in Eredivise, Golden boot runner up to Totti:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afonso_Alves
Of course you could point out he did not do it in the CL but he had the same scoring record in what is arguably the better league. Not that I think Haaland will suffer the same fate, I am indifferent as I barely have seen him play. But these sort of footballing careers do happen.
Not one with as much talent, no. There's hundreds of strikers out there aged 25-27 that won't score.I think buying a young striker is a bad idea. Is ST out there thats 25-27 and is good? Last thing we need is another player with barely any experience. Do you not think hes doing well simply because hes got a solid team around him and capable players. Plus its irrelevant which striker we buy if united don't buy a midfielder who can attack and be creative. That's the main problem right now.
Oh was paul in the last 5 matches? I forgot.
Alves also played in a Dutch league which was rather poor on quality at the time. He was found out big time in the PL.Alves was also 5 years older than Haaland.
Not one with as much talent, no. There's hundreds of strikers out there aged 25-27 that won't score.
I don't really know much about the Eredivisie of that time, so I couldn't comment on that.Alves also played in a Dutch league which was rather poor on quality at the time. He was found out big time in the PL.
While there’s always a risk with players arriving from countries with lesser reputations, Haalands scoring in the UCL marks him out
Ok! The scoring record Alves had that season was fantastic, almost as good as Haalands record this season.Alfonso Alves comes to mind, 45 Goals in 39 games for Heerenveen in Eredivise, Golden boot runner up to Totti:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afonso_Alves
Of course you could point out he did not do it in the CL but he had the same scoring record in what is arguably the better league. Not that I think Haaland will suffer the same fate, I am indifferent as I barely have seen him play. But these sort of footballing careers do happen.
Fred was also great in the UCL, so that means very little.Haalands scoring in the UCL marks him out
Really? Your comparing Fred to Haaland? Two players in different positions, different ages,different physical attributes. Totally different goal scoring stats.Well done sir!Fred was also great in the UCL, so that means very little.