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Erling Haaland / signs for Dortmund
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Looks great around Sancho and the current group but Eriksen is not a 10. He is a free role number 8. A box to box midfielder. But also a creative number 8.
A #10 is a specialist position. James Rodríguez, Mesit Ozil etc.
Eriksen alongside Scott Mctominay and Pogba in a 3 would be good imo.
A proper #6/holding midfielder, with Eriksen in the #8 and a #10 would be more suited tactically to what Eriksen is used to playing at Spurs.
Signing Eriksen would be great business for us. Regardless of his high wages (due to signing on fee) he would be a great addition to UTD. We need a CM who holds the ball well and can be creative in the final 3rd while putting in a 'shift' when needed at the back. Eriksen, regardless of his current form for spurs, is a top, top player and brings the best out of other players around him. His 'distance covered' stats are incredible and has created more chance/assists than most in the PL.
Edit: Haaland... sign him up as well..
Sign him and play 4-2-2-2. Enough of this silly number 10 nonsense when we don't have anyone capable.
------------Martial--------Haland-------------
---Rashford-----------------------James-----
------------Pogba--------McTominay---------
Shaw-----Maguire-----Tuanzebe------AWB
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------------Martial--------Haland-------------
---Rashford-----------------------James-----
------------Pogba--------McTominay---------
Shaw-----Maguire-----Tuanzebe------AWB
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No we need more and better play makers as opposed to giving on the concept entirely.
I'm someone who doesn't follow fashion. If truth and Haaland's match statistics wind you up that means you need to stop listening to the hype.
I'm looking at his Opta stats. What he actually does during a game. If he doesn't dribble (but can), then his dribbles don't count. Dribbles not done - by someone who can dribble - don't count.
Truth? The whole post reads like a macabre work of fiction. «Posion to a team» What is that even suppose to mean?
You don’t follow fashion, you’re a hipster then, and that is now a fashion, being contrary for the sake of it. Try watching him play maybe?
You're a muppet mate and trying as hard as possible to be fashionable by sh*tting on one of the best young strikers in world football.
Yup, he also has 0 GK saves and scores goals. Our strikers don't score goals so it'd be pretty fecked up if he came here and started doing that.
Hes the top scorer in the CL for RB Salzburg at 19 years old, hes big, strong, fast and has surprisingly good technique for someone that tall. Pretty much every top club in Europe has their eyes on him now. And lets be honest here, the only chance we have of signing him is because of his close personal relationship with Ole
He's not Lukaku.
Not convinced we should be in for him. He may be a great prospect but we are in desperate need of a ready to fit into the first team, number nine
Why is @Mark Pawelek getting pelters for pointing out something that's not this guy's strength? If we don't buy anyone creative, this guy will not play well, simple as.
He's stating the player would 'break' us. Why'd you think?
The only way it matters at all which club a player is a fan of is if the player is getting similar offers from multiple clubs with similar situations but he's a fan of one.
Ramsey picked Arsenal over us at 18 despite growing up a United fan because he saw a better route into the first team there.
Swap Martial for Haaland as the number 9 in this current team and we would be worse
I agree. I already wrote why I think this in the thread. Look at Haaland's Opta stats. What does he actually do during a game? Not much. He makes only 21 passes per 90 minutes and only finds a team mate in 6 out of 10. People currently complaining about the boring football and lack of attacking threat will explode if it got any worse. If he played in PL - the most intense on the planet - his pass completion rate would actually fall. From an already unacceptably low 61%.
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I dont think he would be a bad signing by the way. Just that we need to sign more creative wide players if we have him as the number 9. He is effectively a poacher
Those numbers sound concerning.
Every argument we have about what striker should we get, hits the same wall. How do we set them up for chances, when we have no creative players other then pogba who doesn't play. Whatever striker united buy is irrelevant. Unless he's mbappe who can create his own chances.
Its really an easy concept posters love to gloss over. We dont have the creativity or structure for a target man striker. No quality wingers to provide him support yet most are desperate for his signature. Id stay far away from this transfer until we get more creative players in the team. Whats the point in selling lukaku only to get another limited goalscorer in?
Agreed, but mainly because I think Martial is an excellent no 9. The reason we should sign Haaland is because it would give us depth in a position where we lack depth. There's such an enormous drop off in quality after Martial, this needs to be addressed.
I agree with most of what you've said although it might have been a bit harsh. He isnt a good fit right now with the players we currently have. Our front 3 are all dynamic and can interchange positions. Haaland looks very limited in what he can do. We dont have enough creativity to support him and will only cause more problems down the line. What we most need is an attacking midfielder and better central midfielders with a good backup leftback.
Heard those same arguments about Aubameyang when he started banging goals in for Dortmund and every scout in Europe and their dog still didn't believe in him. Took an eternity to move to the PL, and at 29 going onto 30, still banging them in. Consistently.
Scoring goals is the basically the only way to win 3 points. Not pass completion.
Scoring goals is the basically the only way to win 3 points. Not pass completion.
It shouldn't be. He is not playing for dominant team, so he won't be averaging more number of passes. Also Salzburg game style is to play high intensity game and they break quickly, Haaland leads the line and its not surprising he has low pass completion. Flicks with feet and headers and also considered as passes.
Their group has Napoli and Liverpool and he played 3/4 games against them.
Apart from all that, in CL this season.
Lewandowski averages 24 passes per 90 mins competing 74%
Kane 19 - 77%
Aguero 20 - 70%
Martinez - 14 - 66%
Tammy - 14 - 68%
Raw numbers don't tell complete story, he is like a bull with very good feet.
He isnt the right type without adding shit loads of creativity was more my point. Although I do agree Martial is a good 9.
Not easy to score goals if you are unable to create chances from open play. And until we are able to create chances from open play on a regular basis then buying a limited but promising striker for £50-60m would not make any sense at all. But we all now this club is all about the hype...
Why people are drooling over Haaland does not make sense to me at all. Only things I find impressive about him is his penalties and movement in the box. Rest of his game is not nearly good enough.
Hwang Hee-Chan on the other hand. That is a player that would suit any style of play, in any team and league.
Dortmund massively creative side. Haaland can score tons of goals, just that we need to add a lot more creativity to our side. Right now we rely on Martials hold up and ability to link play which Haaland isnt going to bring
It's a fair point, although the onus should be on improving creativity as well as getting more natural strikers into the club.
Besides which, James has a nice cross on him and Martial's interplay is very good. Haaland isn't a donkey that can't triangulate, right?
If we're going to insist on using #10's then we need a proper one in irrespective - I wouldn't hold out on a gem in the meantime, especially so when they come around so infrequently these days.
Besides which, James has a nice cross on him and Martial's interplay is very good. Haaland isn't a donkey that can't triangulate, right?
If we're going to insist on using #10's then we need a proper one in irrespective - I wouldn't hold out on a gem in the meantime, especially so when they come around so infrequently these days.
I cannot believe some people dont want him here! Ofcourse he wont be our main no.9 starting every game, but what a helluva impact sub he would be! Not to mention how having here when Martial was out would have helped. But that is probably also the reason he wont come, he want to be main starter.
That aside, since Ole had managed him quite abit already, im sure he would have known how to use him.
That aside, since Ole had managed him quite abit already, im sure he would have known how to use him.
His touch is heavy when moving and his ability on the ball is not consistent enough yet to be direct passing with an angle in the build-up. Especially when under pressure.
Should spend a season or two in a technical league like Spain.
I have to say my eyes are really opened. Usually I’n careful with my opinions on players from other teams, because I mostly watch United. This guy, I’ve followed closely for a while, and I can categorically state most people in this thread don’t have a clue, one way or the other, so it’s hilarious to read the confident replies, especially these negative comments about his touch and ability.
Care to elaborate?
Yeah, we need to be adding creativity either way though. I agree with you entirely here, but if/when we buy more creative players, Haaland would be an excellent option to have in our squad.
Can't pretend I've watched him intently enough to know one way or the other, but from what I've seen, he's not someone who sets off alarm bells as a complete 'no' in terms of what we should be getting in, for me.
The ideal is the striker who can do everything, but they are virtually non-existent, and even if around, we'd be way back in the queue who could make a viable claim for his signature.
Beggars can't be choosers, so the saying goes. Besides which, we really need some potent attackers now.
Martial had 26 passes per match last season. This season he’s at 18. His completion rate is better than Haaland, but presenting it as a hugely worrying thing is silly. He also has skills that Martial does not.
Screw the stats, have you actually watched him play a match?
So... what's the likelihood of this happening ?? Just paper fluff or is there any good sources reporting this is ON?
And if so, Jan or the summer?
And if so, Jan or the summer?
Not really, your post directly above mine does it so well.
Hm..what is more important...opta-stats or scoring goals ? Personally I don't care if he misses 4 out of 10 passes - if he once or twice a game hammers the ball into the back of the net.
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