The draw was great, but surely papering over the cracks. Harmison and Onions will probably come in for Monty and Broad for the next test. On the batting front though, who's knocking on the door to put pressure on Cook and Bopara in particular?
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Pretty desperate to have to use the physio ploy to limp over the line to a draw. I think England had better hope Lee isn't fit for the second test.
The only opener that springs to mind is Joe Denly of Kent, scored his third century of the summer yesterday.
Ian Bell. He's in the squad already. He's hardly 'knocking', though. Just sleeping on the mat outside the door, waiting for someone to open it and carry him in.
Should stick with Bopara. He's a good player.
No one really.
I would have Rob Key in though. I would have made him captain ages ago.
I'd agree with this, I watched him a week or two back when he played for theEngland B team I think and he looked like a classy player. Not sure though who i'd drop, as bad at the top order were in teh first test I still think each of them has a good knock in them.
Harmisson took 5 for 60 over the weekend and took 5 against the aussies in the lions game too I believe so for me he's a must.
Jay, didn't realise you were into cricket.
Yeah, I enjoy watching it. More of a fan when it comes to the international game though to be honest. I can't say I watch that much county cricket.
Cracking match that. Shame there is no Old Trafford test this year, I'd have loved to have gone. Great day supposedly, with a few ales and sunshine.
I dont think its time to bring in a debutant like Joe Denly.
How much time did that waste? 1 or 2 minutes? Hardly anything, you probably would have got one more over in but you have to admit you didn't look like you were going to get Monty or Jimmy out.
It wasn't cricket. That said the Ozzies are the most odious team to have played the game. So, feck'em.
This time wasting thing is a storm in a tea cup, you'd think the Aussies were guaranteed to overhaul the lead in one over or something.
The weather played its part but that's part of cricket, and they still had a decent amount of overs at their disposal.
Or maybe it's all part of the greater mind games eh.
The weather played its part but that's part of cricket, and they still had a decent amount of overs at their disposal.
Or maybe it's all part of the greater mind games eh.
They did the same thing in 2005
What rot. Jimmy spilt his drink in his gloves so he called for more. The balcony didn't know if he wanted the 12th man or the physio so they sent both. He got his gloves and they left. Ponting just being a prat as per.
Anyway
Anyway
I've never seen any group of fans celebrate a draw like the English. Small time comes to mind.
You mean since the Aussies in 2005?
Don't ever remember their fans celebrating like that.
You sound so bitter.
That's okay. I'll remember for the both of us.
You're not doing very well at it. Their fans wouldn't accept mediocrity like you lot.
Don't mind me though. Continue to celebrate your draw. It's amusing.
I don't know if this has escaped your notice but the tail batted all afternoon and we avoided going 0-1 down in the Ashes.
Arsenal in 2007 and the Aussies in 2005 were just as jubilant as the English last night.
2002/03 Us after drawing 2-2 with Arsenal at Higbbury.
Yep played a crucial part in clinching the league the late equaliser by Giggsy. Also us against Arsenal this season at Old Trafford is another aspect of celebrating a draw.
So they cheated just a little bit so that is OK?
The Aussies did it in 05
So what does that make a team of imported South Africans who have to cheat to cling on to a draw that was celebrated like VE day?
Yes. Mind games. That is what it was
They did? How so?
Think it was the Old Trafford test. You had lost nine wickets and sent on the 12th man to Gillespie before the last Harmison over was bowled. After that over we couldn't bowl anymore because you were wasting time and it finished a draw.
Oh so bitter.
Yes. Mind games. That is what it was
Why couldn't all this media fuss be an attempt at mind games on the part of Ponting? Doesn't seemed too far fetched.
And are you trying to claim that you would have won if not for the physiio walking on?
Ponting is an idiot, hope he gets some chin music in the next test.
I remember that. I think it was Brett Lee who saved the game in the end. LIterally the entire Aussie team ran on to the pitch in celebration.
This cheating stuff is bollocks really
Before 'defined' overs came in the Aussies were masters at the the 'slow over ' rate which was a far greater sustained effort to cheat and that went on ad in finitum untill fines etc came into to stop it
As for them not winning you have to equate it to a football match where one team complete hammers the another having chance after chance after chance but ends up drawing or losing and everybody says they were 'unlucky'
Granted some things can go against you but when you have that kind of dominance you have to turn it into a victory ..........they did'nt - the first sign of any english batsmen digging their heels in they could'nt bowl them out and they had plenty of overs to do it too
I still think the Aussies will prevail and are a good side but if they cant win a match like this then at least we have a decent chance
Before 'defined' overs came in the Aussies were masters at the the 'slow over ' rate which was a far greater sustained effort to cheat and that went on ad in finitum untill fines etc came into to stop it
As for them not winning you have to equate it to a football match where one team complete hammers the another having chance after chance after chance but ends up drawing or losing and everybody says they were 'unlucky'
Granted some things can go against you but when you have that kind of dominance you have to turn it into a victory ..........they did'nt - the first sign of any english batsmen digging their heels in they could'nt bowl them out and they had plenty of overs to do it too
I still think the Aussies will prevail and are a good side but if they cant win a match like this then at least we have a decent chance
The Aussies did it in 05. From whingng to sledging over the years - they've got no right to point the finger at anyone. They've tried delaying tactics many a time. England aren't angels by any means but Ponting's whinging is laughable. Pot. Kettle. Black.
Oh and Brett Lee and co celebrated a similar draw in 2005.
Wibbs, you're making me chuckle.
Ashes, shmashes
In more important news, Bangladesh have just beaten West Indies at home
Bangladesh > England, feckers
In more important news, Bangladesh have just beaten West Indies at home
Bangladesh > England, feckers
So Wibble has disappeared...
Bitter Aussies.. I hate em
Bitter Aussies.. I hate em
He's from quite near Manc, to be fair.