Emi Martinez

He had an incredible show reel of saves in 20/21 for us.

His main weakness is he's not a builder from the back/sweeper keeper like the top clubs have. I assume post DDG you'd be looking for someone of that ilk especially with ETH in for the long run.

I'm under no illusions we'll struggle to keep him but he did sign a new long term deal exactly a year ago so no one is signing him for 30m or so. Considering what Chelsea sign keepers for nowadays that's your ball park figure.

Could see Atletico Madrid wanting him if Oblak moves on with them regularly in CL and having many Argentines at the club.
He is also 30. If you guys are regularly competing in Europe (which you will under Emery) I don't see a reason why he want to move out.
 
I don't know if you also saw, but his shithousery surely caused that Tchouaméni couldn't even hit the goal. Instead of giving him the ball, Martinez kicked or throwed the ball away and he had to walk a lot to get it back. The camera showed his face and you could see the disbelief and the nervousness setting in. In that moment you somehow could feel that Martinez (and Argentina) already won.
 
I don't know if you also saw, but his shithousery surely caused that Tchouaméni couldn't even hit the goal. Instead of giving him the ball, Martinez kicked or throwed the ball away and he had to walk a lot to get it back. The camera showed his face and you could see the disbelief and the nervousness setting in. In that moment you somehow could feel that Martinez (and Argentina) already won.

Saw that. But I think Argentina already won when France missed the header in the final minute of extra time and Martinez saved that last shot which would have won it.
 
I don't know if you also saw, but his shithousery surely caused that Tchouaméni couldn't even hit the goal. Instead of giving him the ball, Martinez kicked or throwed the ball away and he had to walk a lot to get it back. The camera showed his face and you could see the disbelief and the nervousness setting in. In that moment you somehow could feel that Martinez (and Argentina) already won.

It definitely played a role and it’s bad sportsmanship, but it should also be recognised that Martinez dived the right way again and even if Tchouaméni got it on target, there was a good chance he’d have saved it. After diving the right way for Mbappe’s penalty. It was already in Tchouaméni’s head that he needs to get it right inside the post to beat the keeper, or get lucky that he doesn’t dive the right way. He’s already winning mind games before the ball is touched.
 
It definitely played a role and it’s bad sportsmanship, but it should also be recognised that Martinez dived the right way again and even if Tchouaméni got it on target, there was a good chance he’d have saved it. After diving the right way for Mbappe’s penalty. It was already in Tchouaméni’s head that he needs to get it right inside the post to beat the keeper, or get lucky that he doesn’t dive the right way. He’s already winning mind games before the ball is touched.

Of course, it's all added up, but for me that was the moment when I became sure that they won the World Cup. Just that little smile on Tchouaméni's face.
 
People need to lighten up. He's having a good time and if putting a hand trophy on his crotch is a good time for him then so be it. As for the shit-housery... It's whatever man. He's not the first and won't be the last to do stuff like that.

At the end of the day, his team won the world cup and he was a crucial part of it.
 
He is classless. It was a shitty thing to do throwing away the ball before a young player took a pen and his antics make him extremely unlikeable.

There is funny and genuine and there is complete wanker. He is the latter.
 
He is classless. It was a shitty thing to do throwing away the ball before a young player took a pen and his antics make him extremely unlikeable.

There is funny and genuine and there is complete wanker. He is the latter.
He did whatever he could to gain an advantage and it worked. Football for me isn't about by-the-book rigidity to good sporting behaviour. Fair fecking play to Martinez, he's helped win his country a World Cup.
 
He did whatever he could to gain an advantage and it worked. Football for me isn't about by-the-book rigidity to good sporting behaviour. Fair fecking play to Martinez, he's helped win his country a World Cup.

Yeah I’ve no issue with the mind games and those antics, you do what you have to to win but it’s the dancing, the shite he was at with the golden glove and all that nonsense which makes him appear to be a highly unlikeable person.
 
Normally I'd think it was very immature, but seeing the Qatari person's face in the background and given it was out there, feck em. So I thought it was funny.
 
Yeah I’ve no issue with the mind games and those antics, you do what you have to to win but it’s the dancing, the shite he was at with the golden glove and all that nonsense which makes him appear to be a highly unlikeable person.

To you…

As soon as it went to penalties I knew he was good for atleast 1 save.
 
What's the overlap between the people upset about him and the "Brazil dance too much" crowd? Fairly significant I would imagine
 
It's just a bit of fecking banter. Lighten up you miserable sod.

I agree, at first I was like, "What the feck did this guy just do?" Seeing the pictures later, I had to laugh so hard, seems like he didn't really know what to do and decided to do that. I mean he wasn't doing it at the French players, at least I don't think so, so it was not meant as a mocking gesture.
 
Winning a world cup can be a once in a lifetime achievement, a chance to be a hero for your nation, a chance to go down in history. And you have people complaining that he slightly delayed the taking of some penalties to try gain a psychological advantage. Better he does all he can to win than to go home with a runners up medal wondering "what if I'd have just tried to affect their routine and timing a bit, I could be a national hero right now".
 
Winning a world cup can be a once in a lifetime achievement, a chance to be a hero for your nation, a chance to go down in history. And you have people complaining that he slightly delayed the taking of some penalties to try gain a psychological advantage. Better he does all he can to win than to go home with a runners up medal wondering "what if I'd have just tried to affect their routine and timing a bit, I could be a national hero right now".

It is an English thing. Rather behave well and lose than win dirty. Small margins decide these games. England won the fair play award. Quite fitting.
 
Shouldn't have won the golden glove over Bounou or Livakovic, but you have to hand it to him. Brilliant penalty goalkeeper.
 
He is classless. It was a shitty thing to do throwing away the ball before a young player took a pen and his antics make him extremely unlikeable.

There is funny and genuine and there is complete wanker. He is the latter.

Penalty shootout in a world cup final.

Emi: "Do you want me to help you put the ball on the spot?"
Emi: "Shall I dive late? I can see you are nervous"

England won the Fair Play award for only getting 1 yellow card, they need to learn to get in teams faces too.

It's a sport, you win finals. You don't get a participation medal and everyone thinks you are so nice.

For instance with England, everyone in the world hates England, in the Euros they did, in the WC they do. So if the group is a bunch of cnuts who cares at least they're winning.
 
Shouldn't have won the golden glove over Bounou or Livakovic, but you have to hand it to him. Brilliant penalty goalkeeper.

Save at the 123rd minute, 2 penalty shoot out saves I'd say if it didn't go to penalties in both games he wouldn't have but it did, fair IMO.
 
Rather behave well and lose than win dirty.

I must have missed that part when they were diving all over the place in the Euros.

They were so successful at it for the majority of the tournament that they seemed to be in shock when the referee didn't award them for it in the final.

They did lose anyway though.
 
Another one in a long line of bottom-dwelling rats like Dimaria, Tevez etc. But but but he has a WC.
 
It is an English thing. Rather behave well and lose than win dirty. Small margins decide these games. England won the fair play award. Quite fitting.

England get the boy scout award don't worry
 
He seems a very nice fellow. Has that "child whose had to much sugar" vibe about him on the pitch, but off it, seems alright.

Get that context out of here mate, people like boring personalities round these parts.
 
Some people just can't separate some things. There is a huge difference between mind games and good sportsmanship . Between passion and being a cnut. Between being a polite person and being a massive idiot without manners.

There is nothing wrong in what he does during penalties. Kicking the ball away from players who shoot penalty, trash talking and other stuff which he does are mind games and it is all good. I even like that. It is called mind games and passion.
Everything what he does after the game is completely out of order and it is just bad manners. Mocking opposition players, disrespecting opposition manager, doing vulgar scenes.....that is just bad manners and it has nothing with passion and football in general.
 
Yeah I’ve no issue with the mind games and those antics, you do what you have to to win but it’s the dancing, the shite he was at with the golden glove and all that nonsense which makes him appear to be a highly unlikeable person.
That's just being Argentinian, they're a very dislikeable team overall. It's good Messi got his, it sucks that the rest of the team had to win it as well, but I suspect this will be their last for a very long time, while I think France will have a few more cracks at it over the next 2-3 world cups.
 
Cant blame him for those antics. Van Gaal shouldnt have run his mouth before the final.
 
That's just being Argentinian, they're a very dislikeable team overall. It's good Messi got his, it sucks that the rest of the team had to win it as well, but I suspect this will be their last for a very long time, while I think France will have a few more cracks at it over the next 2-3 world cups.

Well as a PSG supporter you are of course a good judge of being dislikeable. :lol:
 
He’s my favorite goalkeeper.

No idea why Arsenal let him go.

Would be too expensive for us now.
 
Well as a PSG supporter you are of course a good judge of being dislikeable. :lol:
We have a long way to go to ever match Argentina in that department, but we'll keep plugging at it.
Left empty handed though didn’t he.
Actually he had an individual trophy at the end, but not the one he wanted, but one he's already won.
 
The Caf consensus seems to be to dislike this guy, but I never quite understood why. Don't feel like he's exceptionally irritating oder twattish