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What would Kenny G do?
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He will need a government subsidy to pay the ferryman.I'm not his biggest fan, far from it, but I wish the lad a speedy trip to the underworld.
Musk makes me more desperate for a Trump loss than Trump himself.
It's weird, but I find him more scary.
2nd Gilded Age in full swingMusk is more dangerous. You would say that a politician, to an extent, is limited by the checks and balances of the political system. I know trump would try to override those, but generally speaking there are some limiters in there.
Musk, as the richest man in the world, is not constrained by any existing checks and balances. He doesn’t have a limited term in office or need to seek re-election. He can freely act behind the scenes and funnel his considerable resources into whatever he so desires. He has the potential to do far more harm.
So many similarities.2nd Gilded Age in full swing
I can’t believe this guy invented solar panels.
He's such a dweeb, so so awkward in every situation that is not the most standard, scripted and/or controlled of social interactions. No matter how "successful" he has been, I'm sure he deep down still feels like a nerd, and that kills him and I think that's the main reason he has dropped any pretension of moderation and has gone full MAGA showing everybody every day what a terrible human being he is. He still gets some sort of respect/admiration from the dumbest in US society, which is what he desperately craves.
You can't tell the difference between authoritarian state-controlled press and a wide array of media like the BBC, NYT, WaPo, NBC, CBS, Reuters, AP, FT, WSJ and that doesn't include the fact that major European countries like France has LeMonde, Le Figaro etc and Germany has Die Welt, Der Spiegel, Suddeutsche Zeitung etc.We condemn Putin and kim jong un for destroying free press. Yet the 'Western world' just has the online media controlled by the likes of Elon Musk. What's the difference?
What's the difference? You don't think all those outlets are paid and told what to publish? Sure its different but only because Putin etc al are idiots. If they weren't so authoritarian and just let a few free press to exist but still controlled the mainstream then those small free press would do Jack sht except rile up a few thousand people at most who won't have the power to do anything anyway. Elon controls what the masses see. Same as Fox news. Same as any other outlet.You can't tell the difference between authoritarian state-controlled press and a wide array of media like the BBC, NYT, WaPo, NBC, CBS, Reuters, AP, FT, WSJ and that doesn't include the fact that major European countries like France has LeMonde, Le Figaro etc and Germany has Die Welt, Der Spiegel, Suddeutsche Zeitung etc.
What's the difference? You don't think all those outlets are paid and told what to publish? Sure its different but only because Putin etc al are idiots. If they weren't so authoritarian and just let a few free press to exist but still controlled the mainstream then those small free press would do Jack sht except rile up a few thousand people at most who won't have the power to do anything anyway. Elon controls what the masses see. Same as Fox news. Same as any other outlet.
Is your point that all media outlets across different Western countries are "feeding" us information the way it happens in authoritarian countries?What's the difference? You don't think all those outlets are paid and told what to publish? Sure its different but only because Putin etc al are idiots. If they weren't so authoritarian and just let a few free press to exist but still controlled the mainstream then those small free press would do Jack sht except rile up a few thousand people at most who won't have the power to do anything anyway. Elon controls what the masses see. Same as Fox news. Same as any other outlet.
Free press is not "big outlets don't exist and people owning them are not jerks".What's the difference? You don't think all those outlets are paid and told what to publish? Sure its different but only because Putin etc al are idiots. If they weren't so authoritarian and just let a few free press to exist but still controlled the mainstream then those small free press would do Jack sht except rile up a few thousand people at most who won't have the power to do anything anyway. Elon controls what the masses see. Same as Fox news. Same as any other outlet.
You could try and ask Navalny for the difference. Or Prigozhin.
Yes I mean what the difference with the end result. Putin locks up and tortures people yes. Buy if he didn't then what difference would it make. If Navalny lived in the US he would just get his Twitter feed down prioritised and if he somehow got too noisy they would just feed a sht load of alternative views to people and discredit him. Putin is just using an outdated form of control. The Western elites realized a long time ago that suppression just leads to revolt. You can just control the masses in other ways.Is your point that all media outlets across different Western countries are "feeding" us information the way it happens in authoritarian countries?
There's a genuinely worrying trend of billionaire ownership of the media but we're not exactly in North Korea territory.
Genuine question. Is this even a trend, or has it always been like this?Is your point that all media outlets across different Western countries are "feeding" us information the way it happens in authoritarian countries?
There's a genuinely worrying trend of billionaire ownership of the media but we're not exactly in North Korea territory.
Media has always been owned by the rich unless its state funded, both sides are a tad turd now..Genuine question. Is this even a trend, or has it always been like this?
So Western media never report anything critical? There are never damaging stories? When the NYT writes about innocent Afghan civilians being droned by the US military, that means nothing to you? This is all just the same as North Korea and Putin's Russia?Yes I mean what the difference with the end result. Putin locks up and tortures people yes. Buy if he didn't then what difference would it make. If Navalny lived in the US he would just get his Twitter feed down prioritised and if he somehow got too noisy they would just feed a sht load of alternative views to people and discredit him. Putin is just using an outdated form of control. The Western elites realized a long time ago that suppression just leads to revolt. You can just control the masses in other ways.
Nah, fair question, it's always been like that. Trend isn't the right word. I was sort of hinting at Bezos' ownership of the WaPo and Musk's ownership of Twitter as recent examples. But it isn't new.Genuine question. Is this even a trend, or has it always been like this?
And then what happens?So Western media never report anything critical? There are never damaging stories? When the NYT writes about innocent Afghan civilians being droned by the US military, that means nothing to you? This is all just the same as North Korea and Putin's Russia?
That's not the argument, is it? You implied Western media is paid and told to publish and it's not different from NK and Putin.And then what happens?
Genuine question. Is this even a trend, or has it always been like this?