I think he's better at dribbling than Messi especially his top speed and acceleration. He gets out of pressure a lot more and keeps the ball better. Messi is better with the ball but his dribbling has declined imo.
Eden Hazard
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@royboy16 just saying it's a bit weird that Hazard making himself useful by dribbling, keeping the ball and drawing fouls would bring to mind one of the most stunning individual performances of the last 30 years...
And Zidane didn't also do the above in that game you mentioned? His link up play with KDB and Lukaku was also very good last night.
He's great at dribbling with acceleration but there are many more players with superior dribbling ability alone just perhaps less effective. Also bear in mind that yesterday was a perfect game for Belgium's attacking trident. They played completely offset from the midfield and defence in a clear counter attacking system which gave Hazard and De Bruyne a lot of space and time on the ball. Lukaku had tons of 1on1s.
Do any of you remember that young Brazilian lad from Porto called Carlos Alberto? He made the likes of Scholes, Carrick, Rio etc look like amateurs just by holding the ball, winning fauls and dribbling everywhere. Safe to say he was better dribbler than Messi too?
Aye, comparing his performance with Zidane's would be way OTT to say the least but the poster who claims that did say it wasn't as good tbf.
No, i just find a bit of a weird comparison. I mean by that metric you could say any good performance by an attacking midfielder sort of resembled Zidane vs Brazil
He's an insanely talented player. He's one of those players who you wish played for your team.
This tournament is his opportunity to establish himself as an absolutely elite world class player.
He's a silky dribbler but has so much more to his game. Despite the size differential, he did a much better job holding up the ball than Lukaku in the second half. If Ronaldo leaves Real this summer, they would be crazy not to go all in for Hazard.
This tournament is his opportunity to establish himself as an absolutely elite world class player.
He's a silky dribbler but has so much more to his game. Despite the size differential, he did a much better job holding up the ball than Lukaku in the second half. If Ronaldo leaves Real this summer, they would be crazy not to go all in for Hazard.
Oh come on now
Hazard embellishes a good amount too and he's also dived a good amount.
This forum is obsessed lately with hating on Neymar, but let's not pretend others aren't guilty too.
Perhaps that's down to the fact that Neymar's been rolling around all tournament trying to con the referee. The attitudes of the two players aren't at all comparable.
Too selfish for my liking. Top player on his day but goes for glory rather than being a team player.
He's a strange player because he genuinely looks like he has the ability to be up there with the Messi's and Ronaldo's certainly Neymar, but he doesn't score enough and at times he still looks greedy. It's hard to wrap my head around exactly how good he is.
It's very simple: he's not a game winner. He has every other quality, but for an attacking midfielder/forward, that's a big flaw. He's more comparable to Xavi, Iniesta or Pirlo(without being as good an any of them) rather than Messi or Cristiano or even Neymar
Yeah but he does seem to have the skills they possess except finishing. He's always rumoured to go to you guys but I think if he does go, you'll need a better goalscorer than Benzema to get the best out of him.
It's not goalscoring, it's the ability to generate goals(whether scoring himself, setting them up, or assisting) he lacks compared to those guys(Messi and co.). Simply put, he has the skills but doesn't use them as effectively.
His best comparison in terms of how he plays would be Iniesta, he's just not as good.
Iniesta is a good call, do you think you guys will go for him?
Only as a last resort if all else fails and Lopetegui wants him. It's clear he doesn't warm Flo's heart
We need a new emoji that's shaking his head, mods.
Let's face it man, if Flo had any interest in Hazard we would've signed him already
I don't think he created many clear cut chances for his teammates & himself. Don't get me wrong, it was a superb performance when Belgium was at 2-0 lead, holding the ball, dribble, forcing opp to make foul were helpful. If it had been at 0-0 or 0-1, I don't know.
Top player no doubt but his end product is always questionable. If Real Madrid's thinking they could replace Ronaldo's 50+ goal a season with Hazard, they'd want to think again.
Top player no doubt but his end product is always questionable. If Real Madrid's thinking they could replace Ronaldo's 50+ goal a season with Hazard, they'd want to think again.
I think @giorno is right. He just doesn't seem to have been able to make that final jump to elite level. I don't think he'll ever make that jump at Chelsea. The pressure simply isn't there.
Look at shedend, you see people argue if he's their greatest ever player. Just shows you for all Chelsea's recent success, how much of a gap there is between Real and Chelsea . I think he has to move to Real but I'm not sure they want him .
Look at shedend, you see people argue if he's their greatest ever player. Just shows you for all Chelsea's recent success, how much of a gap there is between Real and Chelsea . I think he has to move to Real but I'm not sure they want him .
It's a flaw of his. For all his ability, he doesn't really affect games as much as he should.
But who else? Hazard is gettable and would score plenty in Spanish league being the top man, in Prem he needs to focus on defending a lot too, he wouldn't need to do it as much in Real who would create double the chances against weaker sides. I am quite a fan of the player and totally agree with you about his end product but I think he would have for sure better numbers in La liga for one of the strongest sides, supported by players like Isco, Kroos, Modric... rather than Kante and Bakayoko, Drinkwater...
Same would be if Ronaldo went back to Prem, he would find it very hard to get to those numbers he has in Real and Spanish competition...
He should pass it more.
Eden is considered most unselfish player ever.
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He is going up in Madrid chart.
Hazard-Kane is the coolest option this week among the muppets. You have to be up to date, Giorno
If Belgium gets into the final and Hazard plays well the next two matches, don't you think that might inspire a move for Hazard? I don't think James was his shortlist until after the World Cup performances in 2014. Personally I think if Ronaldo leaves Hazard is really the most clear option with the combination of his contract situation, Chelsea not in the CL next year and him getting better every match in the Cup.
Hazard is 'all fart no poo', I've actually been shocked how bad his finishing is. If you check out some of the shots he's taken at this World Cup, they are almost always the wrong option or poorly executed, which is the sign of a not so good finisher. Even that one on one where he absolutely skinned Phil Jones, I kept thinking a Ronaldo type lethal finisher takes that shot earlier. He went and drew the foul because he wasnt sure about his finishing imo, or maybe it was because of De Gea?
I don't see how he would make sense for Madrid given they have Isco, they might need 2 balls on the pitch to accommodate their ball hogging. Would only make sense if Ronaldo is staying and Benzema completely dropped as he has never shown not only desire, but the ability to score 30+ goals in a season.
The perfect Ronaldo replacement is already at the club, just matter of keeping him fit.
I don't see how he would make sense for Madrid given they have Isco, they might need 2 balls on the pitch to accommodate their ball hogging. Would only make sense if Ronaldo is staying and Benzema completely dropped as he has never shown not only desire, but the ability to score 30+ goals in a season.
The perfect Ronaldo replacement is already at the club, just matter of keeping him fit.
Yeah, it's plan C. I particularly enjoy the way the media are trying to convince us Hazard is having some kind of incredible WC
That means Neymar/Mbappé are impossible though
. Also Kane is more of a wish of the fans right now, really. This is a first for Florentino, he's not getting his man(ney), he's losing our star(cris), and he's been too focused on one and too passive with the other and now it feels like he's scrambling for cover.
His only hope might be UEFA forcing PSG's hand. Otherwise i'm starting to be afraid we'll end up with Hazard and Icardi...
RIP giorno's cat which hazard ran over with his car, I hope you haven't suffered much.
Let's get hazard and mbappe then. Problem solved.
In all honesty i'd be fine with signing hazard, it's icardi i don't want
When on form, brilliant player. But he does lack a bit of end product considering the position where he plays. Not sure if that can change if he goes to Madrid for example.
For me, my issue with him has always been mentality. He is wired totally differently to Kevin, for instance, whose main priority is the quickest route to the goal. I always get the impression with Hazard that his sense of achievement almost comes in how many fouls he can draw, simply because the ‘opposition could not stop him’. He gets the ball and seems to first and foremost want the opportunity to show how hard he is to dispossess, whereas I struggle to see a player in the game today who takes a more direct approach than Kevin to actually hurting the opposition.
I also found the notion that Hazard is selfish is weird. He has always been criticised for being too selfless. Since this World Cup it seems to be the opposite.
In a world cup it does not take much more than one or two matches to catch the eye.Yeah, it's plan C. I particularly enjoy the way the media are trying to convince us Hazard is having some kind of incredible WC
That means Neymar/Mbappé are impossible though
This is a first for Florentino, he's not getting his man(ney), he's losing our star(cris), and he's been too focused on one and too passive with the other and now it feels like he's scrambling for cover.
His only hope might be UEFA forcing PSG's hand. Otherwise i'm starting to be afraid we'll end up with Hazard and Icardi...
I have my doubts, but he is at the ideal age, Zidane adored him and he is crazy to come.
He is honest and said clearly his intentions.
Hazard-Isco/Modric/Asensio can be great.
The problem is that with him we do not cover the goals of Cris, which on the other hand can leave because he allowed. It's not Florentino losing the star. This is over when Florentino wants, that's why I am optimistic.
It would be so much easier if we could count on Bale to play 50-55 games...
I don't want Bale, let another team try their luck with the 50/55 games
Hazard's moving to Real a year too late if he goes when there's no Ronaldo. He need to play with the likes of Ronaldo to take him to the next level
He’s a great player, but can be inconsistent.
I think he wants to go to Madrid, this isn’t news it’s always been his plan.
Problem he has is they have Isco who is very similar and Spanish, , neither of them will accept being benched.
Probably more importantly they need a striker to replace Ronaldo. It would make more sense for them to try and sign Morata back than Hazard at the moment.
I think he wants to go to Madrid, this isn’t news it’s always been his plan.
Problem he has is they have Isco who is very similar and Spanish, , neither of them will accept being benched.
Probably more importantly they need a striker to replace Ronaldo. It would make more sense for them to try and sign Morata back than Hazard at the moment.
He’s an Arsenal player.