Motivation is the key problem. The other is playing under Mou and Conte.
Hazard needs a change and a challenge.
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Motivation is the key problem. The other is playing under Mou and Conte.
Hazard needs a change and a challenge.
That's a very odd comparison.
Well it depends on the period, at the moment there is no debate. Ribery reached a higher peak though but Kane, even if much younger, has showed more consistency in performances. Ideally the comparison is better between players of similar age group
Im not agreeing he was the 3rd best in the world. But he certainly has been the best player in the league. Only De Bruyne is a rival to him now since he came
If that's odd then what is Hazard Vs Kane?
So you'd rate peak Bayern Ribery higher than current (and let's assume peak) Kane?
If I had to make a decision yes but it's very close. That was Ribery's best ever season in terms of goals +assists IIRC but overall I'd take Kane just for his consistency year in, year out
Well of course, that’s what makes it my opinion. And in my opinion, he is not rated highly enough. If he were to move to Real Madrid, I would expect that to change with the exposure he will get there. In the same way that Modric, for example, is now regarded more highly than he ever would have done at Tottenham or another club a level below the top, top clubs, despite the fact that I think he is no better now than he was when he moved. For me, he didn’t improve, he simply moved to a bigger, better team.
All things considered, who do you think has more ability than Hazard currently, or has performed at a higher level than him over the course of the last six years?
Neymar/Modric/Godin/Marcelo
Hazard would take his game to the next level with us, I'm absolutely sure of it. The talent is there, he just needs world class players around him. No disrespect to Chelsea but only Willian is of that quality.
The problem is that his skill set is too similar to Isco in my view. 2 massive ball hogs that don’t score that often.
You've just lost your best player, Hazard would only be able to take his talent to another level with Ronaldo still there imo
Can't see Hazard leaving this summer tbh, Chelsea would have very little time to source a replacement now
I think hazard is as good as gone to Madrid.
Neymar/Mbappe would be too problematic to acquire this transfer window and he is the next best thing plus he wants to go.
Neymar/Mbappe would be too problematic to acquire this transfer window and he is the next best thing plus he wants to go.
He’s staying guys just watch
If he wants the move he has to push for it hard. Don't think we'd pay more than €150mil in transfer fee. Could see wages in the €10-15m after tax range though
He's nowhere near the 3rd best player in the world.
1 fine WC doesn't change him disappearing in the CL and him taking an ENTIRE season off in the Premier League.
You overrate Hazard if you think he is the 3rd best or has ever been the 3rd best player in the world.
So damn petty
Where would you rank him? 10th? 20th? 100th?
Yeah not on board with the idea of him being 3rd best player in the world, doubt even Chelsea fans would go along with that. Good player as he is, not that level, maybe if he goes to Real.
I would put him in the top 10 and I do think he's the best player in the Prem, but he hasn't shone enough outside of it to be seen as the best after Messi/Ronaldo.
That Chelsea debacle in 2015-2016 isn't all on Hazard obviously, but it's really hard to ignore that he was basically MIA until the game vs Spurs at the Bridge to end their title hopes.
Id have him over Modric. He’s getting better and better. He needs to get the feck out of Chelsea, for people to realise how goos he is.
Can call Chelsea any names but never a "selling club". Chelsea have had lots of super star players in the "Abramovich era", all of them coveted by the best clubs, but none left and to be fair Chelsea have never looked like Liverpool for example to be bullied into accepting the first offer for their star players. They are actually ruthless negociators, can't think of any other club to make a fortune out of selling bang average players.
Apart from Robben, no Chelsea top player left in the Abramovich era. And maybe Gudjohnsen.
Lampard, Terry, Drogba, Cech, Ashley Cole, Joe Cole, Carvalho, Ivanovic etc have had their prime years by playing for Chelsea and they've all left once their legs were gone. There have been a lot of big clubs and there still are that would get bullied into selling their star player once a bigger club comes asking, but Chelsea is not among those. Hazard might leave, but there is a big chance he stays put, too.
I'm sure it's going to be a hell of a ride for Madrid to negociate with Chelsea. They won't let Hazard go unless they get what they ask for and surely in a market where one season wonders are worth over 100M, Chelsea values Hazard around the 200M mark for sure.
Apart from Robben, no Chelsea top player left in the Abramovich era. And maybe Gudjohnsen.
Lampard, Terry, Drogba, Cech, Ashley Cole, Joe Cole, Carvalho, Ivanovic etc have had their prime years by playing for Chelsea and they've all left once their legs were gone. There have been a lot of big clubs and there still are that would get bullied into selling their star player once a bigger club comes asking, but Chelsea is not among those. Hazard might leave, but there is a big chance he stays put, too.
I'm sure it's going to be a hell of a ride for Madrid to negociate with Chelsea. They won't let Hazard go unless they get what they ask for and surely in a market where one season wonders are worth over 100M, Chelsea values Hazard around the 200M mark for sure.
Like playing a whole season without downing tools?
Why aren't Man. United in for him out of interest? Can offer CL football, stay in Premier league which he enjoys playing in have Belgium team mates Fellani and possbily Toby A, you've got track record of taking key players off rivals, Rio (when Leeds were good), Mata, Alexis, RVP and I dunno but if Man. United want to step up a level and seriously challenge Man. City and go far in CL that's the sort to me they need to at least compete for.
We don't need another player who likes to play from the left wing/playmaker.
Hazard suffers from the inconsistent flair player with astronomical top level syndrome. He 'should' be one of the best in the world but has far too many off games to be that. He's basically a discount Neymar.
Yeah you're stocked around that area but then again Mata is probably better used as impact squad player, lingard is better centrally, Martial will probably be off and to try to get more out of Alexis he could get more central role.
Many on this forum yearn for Gareth Bale so suggests there's still a want for improvement on the left. Perisic also linked.
He's going to Real Madrid or he's staying. He's not wanting a move for Champs league footy, he wants to goto Madrid.
When he wasn't up to it, Ronaldo was booed by the Bernabeu and destroyed by the press and he's fecking Ronaldo. What do you think would happen to Hazard? Think the fans will be fine with that and just wait for the next game when he shows up to sing his name?
If he signs, he'll succeed or he won't, but you can't draw direct comparisons between Chelsea and Real Madrid. Chelsea is a big club, but Real Madrid is another dimension.
This is a chance for Hazard to show what he's made of, while Real can bench him (like Bale), loan him (like James) or just sell him (like they sold Robben) even if he performs well, because new Ronaldo or Kaka is lined up to take his place.
It's competition on the pitch, the politics around the club and the seemingly never satisfied fans that make it the hardest club to succeed at.
He won’t down tools for Madrid
That’s the difference between playing for Madrid and Chelsea
That’s the difference between playing for Madrid and Chelsea
Real has been downing tools in the league for years.
I know he can’t get away with it in Madrid.
My point is, if he’s looking for a change and a challenge, he should look at himself first. His attitude at Chelsea should have been embarrassing for him at times.
That I agree with.
The way I see it, he would come in as a superstar player but he will still feel he needs to prove himself because he's the one making a step to the next level.
Having said that, I think there's more chance of him staying with a new huge contract then going to Madrd.
Hazard wouldn't play under Jose again. I doubt Jose would want him.
Chelsea wouldn't sell their best player to a direct rival.
The Mata sale isn't the same, because he was basically a substitute that season.
We actually won it last year.
Even if Hazard wants to go. Madrid can't finance a deal
Taken from the Telegraph:
The last financial results for Madrid showed the club have a loan facility to meet their €404 million (£357.3 million) annual wage bill, paid bi-annually.
They had cash reserves of €178 million (£157.4 million) on June 30, which was down to €133 million (£117.61 million) by Dec 31, a period during which their wage bill grew by 14 per cent. The club’s statutes prevent Perez from borrowing more than €140 million (£123.8 million) without the consent of Madrid’s general assembly. In recent years they have stayed in the black by selling Danilo, Alvaro Morata and now Ronaldo – a period notable for the absence of a major signing.
Now unless Chelsea is gonna sell Hazard for less than 150m and allow Madrid to pay that in installements he's staying
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...eakness-chelsea-may-not-have-money-make-eden/
Taken from the Telegraph:
The last financial results for Madrid showed the club have a loan facility to meet their €404 million (£357.3 million) annual wage bill, paid bi-annually.
They had cash reserves of €178 million (£157.4 million) on June 30, which was down to €133 million (£117.61 million) by Dec 31, a period during which their wage bill grew by 14 per cent. The club’s statutes prevent Perez from borrowing more than €140 million (£123.8 million) without the consent of Madrid’s general assembly. In recent years they have stayed in the black by selling Danilo, Alvaro Morata and now Ronaldo – a period notable for the absence of a major signing.
Now unless Chelsea is gonna sell Hazard for less than 150m and allow Madrid to pay that in installements he's staying
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...eakness-chelsea-may-not-have-money-make-eden/
Ronaldo's money and salary being taken off the books will put a dent in that. Not to mention losing Ronaldo and adding Hazard would still save them on their wage bill so financially so they can reason like that. And it says there that they can borrow 140 if they want which is surely about what Hazard is worth. I think the move will happen if both Madrid and Hazard want it. Chelsea probably won't fight it too hard either since they're spending decent money this offseason despite all their drama about not having cash earlier. Ideally they need to offload Bale or something to facilitate the move but I think it'll happen regardless. Hazard's comments already suggest he may put in a request if it's not dealt with peacefully anyways.
He's so overrated it's hilarious.
He's clearly a very good player but his fan boys bang on about him as if he's the next coming.
Isn't he always one of the key players when the Chelski manager inevitably gets fired?
I simply don't know what he's 10/10 at; not really a goalscorer, nor an assist machine...
He's clearly a very good player but his fan boys bang on about him as if he's the next coming.
Isn't he always one of the key players when the Chelski manager inevitably gets fired?
I simply don't know what he's 10/10 at; not really a goalscorer, nor an assist machine...
Hopefully we aren't the suckers to help them out by taking an expensive, aging, overpaid Bale off their books. Though Woody would probably not hesitate to do exactly that.
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