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Gaming Dragon Age: The Veilguard
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Also the three people who are the most disappointed in you.
It's worth pointing out that the game did reach the top of the Playstation store purchases in recent days, and moved well up the Steam charts. There also seems to be a contingent of people who haven't played Origins, but who played and became attached to Inquisition. That group are probably far less offended by the gameplay in Veilguard than people like myself wanting a true sequel to Origins. It's the Veilguard vs the Old Guard, in some sense and there are plenty of people in both camps.
If you go on the Dragon Age subreddit for example you'll find people referring to critics of Veilguard's visual style as "tourists" because they're used to Inquisition.
I really don't think this game is going to be the disaster overall that some parts of the internet are thinking/hoping it will be.
I mean, I'm going to play this regardless....
If this is all true, it looks horrible. Not allowed to be an asshole???? Booo.
True. I’d say he’s the reviewer I tend to most align with as he focuses on similar things as me. But of course I can disagree with him as with Last of Us 2 and Lost Judgment where I think he was way off the mark.
Seems like it’s landed (so far) much like Starfield with both glowing praise and harsh criticism. I can see parallels between BioWare and Bethesda in that they feel like developers hanging on to things that worked when games as a medium weren’t as well realised as they are now.
They haven't made a turn based game in 15 years and dragon age origins was barely turn based. Theres been so much repeated, massive turnovers of staff that they wouldn't have a clue how to go about making a turn based rpg at this point.
I mean even inquisition is a decade old, expecting more of the same from that is probably unrealistic. Expecting them to revert back to Baldurs Gate, Knights of the Old Republic territory is completely bonkers.
So many of the right wing grifters have latched on to this game as their new target. It's the same kind of energy BG3 got until it became a huge success and they had to shut up. I really, really hope this game does well.
I'm excited. Dragon Age is usually just a fun RPG experience that has great accessibility and lets me enjoy the story without too much fuss. Some decent kingdom management mechanics thrown in with simple and easy to use battle mechanics, and a handful of puzzles.
Since DA2 I've loved playing a Mage in these, it might be simple, but it all just flows really well together - hope it's the same this time around.
Since DA2 I've loved playing a Mage in these, it might be simple, but it all just flows really well together - hope it's the same this time around.
I keep seeing RW loons whining about Ghost of Yotei’s protagonist. These idiots are best ignored.
The discourse around virtually every single game gets hijacked by the anti-woke crowd these days. It's pretty hard to ignore them since they seem to be everywhere, but maybe they'll get tired of it eventually.
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Sadly, these abhorrent RW views have now gone global and hence gained ‘legitimacy’. They’ll only go away once the political trick stops working.
Given there isn't much of interest for me between now and early next year, I'm ready for a delve back into Dragon Age. I think I platinumed Inquisition many moons ago.
Saw a Fextra video alleging review manipulation by BioWare, which is interesting.
whats a chud?
Seems like there is a great deal of controversy surrounding this.
I cant be bothered at all by culture war nonsense, but honestly, the game does not look very good imo
I do get fed up of the culture war nonsense and some of the anti-woke complaints are farcical (see Silent Hill 2 for instance), however, I do feel there is a legit argument to make that some games seem far too focused on being clean and not upsetting anyone. As the Skill up review says the original Dragon Age was just ....crazy what you could actually do in that game and how dark it could get. Inquisition, while still decent, felt a lot safer and this just looks very tame. I hope other people enjoy it but I don't think Dragon Age is a series I'll return to anytime soon sadly.
Also gave the game strong replayability value. Always tended to pick the good, noble options, the first time around and then be an utter dick the next time just to see how the game changed to accommodate it.
Hope it isn't as Marvel as some have stated when it comes to the dialogue, Origins did have its fair share of that quippy stuff but plenty of darker more serious moments to balance it out, and it hadn't been done to death at the time as it is now.
Fextra would know about using the internet to manipulate perception
Have it pre-downloaded. Will be playing once I complete Metaphor. Seems it has pissed off the right wing snowflakes so that's enough for me to support the game.
I'll be waiting just because i dont know what to expect from it. The Origins developers are long, long gone so it wont be that clearly but even the Inquisition developers are mostly gone. Mass Effect 2 is the game i've heard it compared to most and that sounds quite good potentially. So I'm tempted but maybe not at full price.
It'll be cheap enough in a years time so I'll either get it then or wait till it's free on PSN plus
Not to mention the bugs should be ironed out by then.
That has nothing to do with the ideological bullshit though. Playing it safe is something companies do all the time to widen their consumer base. It obviously hurts the product as an art form but I don’t see why it’s attributed to this whole extreme left / woke nonsense. Is having a female protagonist in Ghost of Yotei who is played by an activist playing it safe or taking risk? Because keeping Jin in the sequel would definitely have not upset anybody.
Feels like especially in the US nobody really knows what these terms meant as they are just used by a section for anything they dislike.
Ha, good point
Yeah, the Marvelisation of video games. That's a legitimate complaint, and at first glance it does seem applicable here. But that wasn't what I was referring to.
Not sure about the origins but the online right use it in a self referencial way, to me in a way that infers that the left used to call them it (own the libs tone)
Got badly burned by buying Dragons Dogma 2 on release day so i wont spend any money of this before the dust settles a bit.
well that response was underwhelming, not even humerous.... thanks though
can someone sum up what the main issues with this game are?
Just why? Dialogue is awful. Haven't played the game yet. Waiting for a sale. I enjoyed the series and dlc but things like this make me hesitant. It's just silly.
Ok, so I guess it's woke, which makes most of the reviews saying it's terrible sort of worthless.
Anyone over 12 who is ambivalent to the tone who can give some insight into whether this is good?
Anyone over 12 who is ambivalent to the tone who can give some insight into whether this is good?
Starting it tomorrow night as I am on call today. Hoping to get some good hours into it over the weekend so I might have something for you by Sunday evening
From what I gather, that you can give your character surgery scars and there is at least one reference to non-binary people in the game.
Sorry it wasn't humourous enough for you!
Personally I've never seen anyone on the left online use it, but I've seen right wing types calling each other chuds in that meme-y way that the right does online
Honestly, that dialogue feels AI-generated. Christ. I'm sure there's a better way of getting the point across without it being so...preachy.
The game is just released today, so it is just a few reviewers who have had access to it.
It is a pity that many players will downvote it cause it is 'woke', which means that the players rating will have no informative value (The last of us 2 being 5.8 in metacritics from players, for example).
Yeah, that's what I mean. I don't really care about it, so I just want to know if the story and gameplay is fun.
Conversely, some reviewers tend to overpraise "woke" things as well, so the positives can be skewed as well.
Sure, but in numbers that happen far fewer times. You have more games/movies/shows getting downvoted cause they are ‘woke’, rather than them getting upvoted cause they are ‘woke’. I do not remember any case of them getting upvoted for being ‘woke’ and know many cases for getting downvoted.
What might happen is for bad games/movies/shows to have low scores and then for creators to cry that they got low scores only because of that.
The overly positive sources are mostly some professional critics aren't they?
At least, that's what I always hear.
I'm going to give it a go as a fan of the series but I'm kind of expecting another Andromeda level game. The culture war stuff is annoying. Watch one video of that stuff on Youtube and your algorithm gets poisoned and recommendations turn into an incel rage fest. On the other hand I do have genuine fear that the writing is going to be awful and that they'll inject modern political talking points into a pseudo-medieval fantasy world in a clumsy, heavy-handed way. I also don't like how they abandoned the darker tone the series once had, but I'm gonna try to keep an open mind about it. I desperately need another great Bioware RPG in my life.