Gaming Dragon Age: The Veilguard

Some very good reviews, some not so great ones. IGN gave it a 9 but Skillup hates it.

84 on metacritic now.
 
Bebe said:
After seeing MattyPlays and Skill Up's reviews, I have zero interest in this which really sucks to say.
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"written as if HR was in the room" ...ouch! :lol:

To be honest, i was absolutely horrified by the trailer for the game. It looked abysmal in its direction and tone. I thought Inquisition was good but very tame compared to DA: Origins but this looks a whole new level of sanitized.
 
Irwin99 said:
"written as if HR was in the room" ...ouch! :lol:

To be honest, i was absolutely horrified by the trailer for the game. It looked abysmal in its direction and tone. I thought Inquisition was good but very tame compared to DA: Origins but this looks a whole new level of sanitized.
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It just screamed Marvel movie/hero shooter shite, didn't it?

Can't think of too many trailers for anything I'd otherwise have been interested in that turned me against it that much.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
Some very good reviews, some not so great ones. IGN gave it a 9 but Skillup hates it.

84 on metacritic now.
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Skill Up can be a weirdo at times. I really like his style of reviewing and in general find myself agreeing with him, but he can get so hung up on specific things that it makes him view everything about certain games in a negative light. Like his Lost Judgement review, which is just baffling.

At the end of the day, it's just one dude's opinion.
 
Irwin99 said:
"written as if HR was in the room" ...ouch! :lol:

To be honest, i was absolutely horrified by the trailer for the game. It looked abysmal in its direction and tone. I thought Inquisition was good but very tame compared to DA: Origins but this looks a whole new level of sanitized.
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All the later trailers were much better than the first one, which was universally panned.

Loads of different reviews, but there are some very positive ones as well. This guy seems to like it a lot:

 
Drainy said:
Kingdoms of Amalur was fun for what it was, to be fair. Plus I loved the Irish mythological fantasy elements.

Bioware probably has as much of a future prospect as that studio though.
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World made some sense in Amalur, on top of that soundtrack was grand.

Hoping at least Hans Zimmer's part for Veilguard will be okay.
 
It looks fine but it’s not a fecking Dragon Age game. I don’t know why they didn’t try make something more akin to Origins especially with the recent success of games like BG3.
 
Massive Spanner said:
It looks fine but it’s not a fecking Dragon Age game. I don’t know why they didn’t try make something more akin to Origins especially with the recent success of games like BG3.
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If Dragon Age 2 was a Dragon Age game, this might as well be. All three games have been quite different, to be honest. And this game has been in development for a looong time. It would be even worse if they completely scrapped it again after the success of BG3. Maybe the next one could be? Though I never played Origins like a true CRPG, like BG3.
 
nimic said:
If Dragon Age 2 was a Dragon Age game, this might as well be. All three games have been quite different, to be honest. And this game has been in development for a looong time. It would be even worse if they completely scrapped it again after the success of BG3. Maybe the next one could be? Though I never played Origins like a true CRPG, like BG3.
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BG3 is just a recent example. Turn based RPGs have had a lot of success recently. Why BioWare keep feeling the need to completely abandon what made them so successful is mad.
 
Bebe said:
After seeing MattyPlays and Skill Up's reviews, I have zero interest in this which really sucks to say.
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Skill Up's review is absolutely brutal, basically like combining the worst of Dragon Age 2 (fighting, repetitiveness) with those of Dragon Age 3 (forgettable story, boring characters and juvenile dialogue).

Shame cause was really excited to play this.
 
Massive Spanner said:
BG3 is just a recent example. Turn based RPGs have had a lot of success recently. Why BioWare keep feeling the need to completely abandon what made them so successful is mad.
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Inquisition was their most successful Dragon Age game by a large margin, and that was already far from a regular turn based RPG. I would have liked another game more like Inquisition, to be sure, but I don't need Dragon Age to be like BG3.
 
Revan said:
Skill Up's review is absolutely brutal, basically like combining the worst of Dragon Age 2 (fighting, repetitiveness) with those of Dragon Age 3 (forgettable story, boring characters and juvenile dialogue).

Shame cause was really excited to play this.
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I'll never understand people who think Inquisition had boring characters.

You shouldn't go from "really excited to play this" to "not playing this" based on a single bad review. Nor should you buy it just based on one good one, to be fair.
 
nimic said:
Veilguard is going to sell very well.
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It's going to be very interesting to watch given it's place in all the gaming culture warring going on. I do think it will sell at least reasonably well given the review scores from mainstream outlets - although if it is a shallow experience as some reviewers have discussed then I could also see strong early sales that fall off over time. It's not going to flop though which is definitely what some corners of the internet wanted.

I think it's fine to go from "excited for this" to "not interested" after reading/hearing impressions from people who voice the very criticisms you're hoping not to hear. My view coming into this release was "if it brings back the serious, grimdark-ish tone of the first two games, has tactically deep combat and interesting, mature writing, then I'm in. If it's the opposite of those things, I'm out". Reviews, be they positive or negative, seem to confirm that it's the latter, and that's made my decision. IN a previous age, I might have rented it or looked for a used copy in a couple weeks but there's no chance I'm paying $90 to confirm my suspicions.
 
nimic said:
I'll never understand people who think Inquisition had boring characters.

You shouldn't go from "really excited to play this" to "not playing this" based on a single bad review. Nor should you buy it just based on one good one, to be fair.
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I do not remember any character from DA: I expectorant Varric, Cassandra and Leliana, whom were all in previous games.

I am not playing much games nowadays, so was exciting to play this if the reviews were good, essentially if it was an old BioWare game. That doesn’t seem to be the case, based on that review, it essentially misses all the points that made me love BioWare games. So, I guess I’ll skip it for now.
 
nimic said:
Inquisition was their most successful Dragon Age game by a large margin, and that was already far from a regular turn based RPG. I would have liked another game more like Inquisition, to be sure, but I don't need Dragon Age to be like BG3.
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I don’t recall saying it needed to be like BG3, I just cited BG3 as a recent example of a very successful RPG with a complex turn based combat system, bemoaning why BioWare are so insistent on moving farther and farther away from it.
 
Massive Spanner said:
I don’t recall saying it needed to be like BG3, I just cited BG3 as a recent example of a very successful RPG with a complex turn based combat system, bemoaning why BioWare are so insistent on moving farther and farther away from it.
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I didn't say you said it needed to be like BG3. No need to be so aggressive. I'm just a humble poster who thinks you're wrong.
 
Revan said:
I do not remember any character from DA: I expectorant Varric, Cassandra and Leliana, whom were all in previous games.

I am not playing much games nowadays, so was exciting to play this if the reviews were good, essentially if it was an old BioWare game. That doesn’t seem to be the case, based on that review, it essentially misses all the points that made me love BioWare games. So, I guess I’ll skip it for now.
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If you don't remember Solas I question your desire to play a game made around Solas.
 
nimic said:
If you don't remember Solas I question your desire to play a game made around Solas.
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Oh Solas for sure, but in my brain he became the baddie/antagonist of the next game and almost forgot that he is in the previous game.

Nevertheless, I did not like Inquisition that much. Anything that is more like Inquisition and less like old BioWare games (BG, KOTOR, Mass Effect, DA: O) is not something I am willing to spend money or time on it. And this basically seems pretty much that.
 
Some of the reviews out there are just such polar opposites that I have a hard time taking any of them seriously. Bertie from Eurogamer, normally a very respectable writer, calls it the greatest Bioware game he's ever played, while Skill Up literally despises every single aspect of the game, be it writing, combat, world design or quest design. You come away from his review feeling this might be one of the worst games ever made.

Like, how do you reconcile views on such extreme ends of the spectrum? I know they're all personal opinions, but surely there has to be some sort of baseline quality that makes it impossible to have that much of a spread. My suspicion is both of these are just full of shit and the truth is somehwere in the middle.
 
I was expecting this to be a thoroughly average affair, and probably not one to pick up on day one.

Still, the reviews seem very good… do we know what the price will be at launch? I find it really difficult to justify paying 60-70 quid for a “AAA” game nowadays.

Also do we know if there is any multiplayer? I quite enjoyed the Mass Effect 3 MP. Inquisitions was a bit meh… but I can’t help but wonder if there could be a good MP mode based on those.
 
Ainu said:
Some of the reviews out there are just such polar opposites that I have a hard time taking any of them seriously. Bertie from Eurogamer, normally a very respectable writer, calls it the greatest Bioware game he's ever played, while Skill Up literally despises every single aspect of the game, be it writing, combat, world design or quest design. You come away from his review feeling this might be one of the worst games ever made.

Like, how do you reconcile views on such extreme ends of the spectrum? I know they're all personal opinions, but surely there has to be some sort of baseline quality that makes it impossible to have that much of a spread. My suspicion is both of these are just full of shit and the truth is somehwere in the middle.
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The clips I’ve seen genuinely look atrocious. I wouldn’t trust some of the reviews I’ve seen on this at all. I’m definitely going to wait a few weeks or months to see what user opinion is on this one.
 
Inquisition was good, maybe a bit bloated and map collect-a-thon but it was still pretty fun. Not a patch on Origins to my eyes but that did have "The Veil" section which nearly derailed the game by itself.

Will play it, probably on a steam sale a year down the line.
 
It's giving me Starfield vibes, a game that was pretty bland and lifeless and probably wouldn't have hit 80 if it wasn't a Bethesda game.

I think the fact they've not given review codes to some that were mixed in previews says a lot. If it was the BEST BIOWARE game ever (according to one review..), it would have been chucked out like candy to anyone and everyone, knowing the game would speak for itself.

Watching some of the footage and it looks meh.
 
That Eurogamer review is certainly... something. I find the incredibly positive reviews this is getting from mainstream gaming sites like IGN and Eurogamer to be much less believable than the more critical reviews. The hyperbole in the former strains credulity imo.

Perhaps more relevantly, the footage (particularly when it showcases dialogue) seems very cringeworthy.
 
nimic said:
I'll never understand people who think Inquisition had boring characters.

You shouldn't go from "really excited to play this" to "not playing this" based on a single bad review. Nor should you buy it just based on one good one, to be fair.
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My first play through was pretty average. My second with my wise cracking Qunari warrior was amazing and memorable and I platinumd it. I think how your play through pans out and the characters you use matters in how you feel about it all
 
nimic said:
That depends entirely on where and who you ask.
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I think you’re about the only person on the internet actually excited for this. Everything else I read (reviews aside) is negative and bemoaning of the direction EA and BioWare have taken it.

That’s not to say it won’t sell or it’s not a good action RPG. But yeah, you seem a bit desperate for this to be good. Did you preorder it nimmy?
 
Massive Spanner said:
I think you’re about the only person on the internet actually excited for this. Everything else I read (reviews aside) is negative and bemoaning of the direction EA and BioWare have taken it.

That’s not to say it won’t sell or it’s not a good action RPG. But yeah, you seem a bit desperate for this to be good. Did you preorder it nimmy?
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I think even you realize how stupid this is :lol:

If you're going to keep being aggressive I'm just going to stop engaging.
 
Seems like EA might have chosen reviewers that are likely to give positive reviews, which means that the reviews might be inflated.

 
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