Just saw a tweet to this effect.
35m.
35m.
Douglas Costa | Signed for Bayern Munich
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For minute there I was thinking about Diego Costa and that wouldn't have made any sense but Douglas Costa makes sense for them. They need to start replacing the aging Robben and Ribery, Douglas is a good player for that.
It is the same reason why they have been interested in Di Maria and Sterling aswell.
It is the same reason why they have been interested in Di Maria and Sterling aswell.
Hm... dunno. Can't really say I've seen much of him and what I've seen didn't make me dream.
He is a player I'd mentioned a few times in the 'what winger/wide forward for the summer?' thread. I like him as he is one of the genuine dribblers available. Can be immature in his play at times, but he is one of thsoe who can actually dance past players at speed as opposed to those that just beat players in a race.
Doesn't get enough goals for my liking, but with a player like Depay on the other wing, their skills may still compliment each other.
Doesn't get enough goals for my liking, but with a player like Depay on the other wing, their skills may still compliment each other.
They don't need him, wouldn't make much sense. They are better of looking for a Ribery replacement than a Robben one as Muller can fill that role.
Actually - could be that Pep is looking more for a wingback - and that might make sense. On the left side there is Alaba and Bernat who can play there in different roles when Ribery is out.
Robben, Müller, Lewy and Götze can be used in many different roles - using both wings - using just one wing - using the middle. 10, 9, false 9, false 10 - whatever.
Pep has not used Müller on the right for most of his time in Munich. Müller played hanging striker, striker, often even the 8 (sometimes with for him favourable tasks, sometimes more in a support role) - even when Robben was out. He is only on the right occasionally during matches. Pep has even used Robben in a no. 10 role behind Lewy and Müller - or as a wingback.
He could e.g. play a 3-5-2 like this:
.....................Neuer
.....Boateng - Martinez - Alaba
Costa - Lahm - Thiago - Bernat
...............Robben
.......Müller............Lewy
Just as an example. There are a lot of variations thinkable - if the right people are fit.
With Ribery it could get more "conservative" again with two wingers.
As a normal winger Douglas Costa has a lot too less output compared to players like Robben, Ribery or Müller. A better or worse Shaqiri...
At least they arent taking ADM
Average brazilian imo, although I've seen very little of him. Wonder why they pulled out from making a deal with Griezmann? And surely they can get better for 35 mil.
Brazilian players are going to be fleeing from Shakhtar this summer. Luis Adriano is reportedly close to signing for Al Ahli, and Fernando will join Sampdoria. Bernard will also quite possibly be gone. Under those circumstances, it's hard to understand why Bayern would even need to pay 35m.
They pretty much have loads of attacking midfield options already. No idea what Pep has in mind for him.
Strange signing, €35m is a lot of money for Costa who's not really that good and won't improve their team. They do need Robben/Ribery replacement but Costa is not that player.
Before they had Robben/Ribery, they signed similar players. People act like Bayern would spend 80m on a player. They always did this deals, their record signing is still Martinez with 40m Euros i think.
They have money and will buy a player for a new record, but they dont do it every season. I think they want De Bruyne, but he isnt available at the moment.
They have money and will buy a player for a new record, but they dont do it every season. I think they want De Bruyne, but he isnt available at the moment.
I actually think Shaqiri is better and he has no future at the club.
Laziest op ever.
he's a good player, better than most on here rate him. I'm just struggling to see where and how he'll be used at Bayern. He's not a striker or your typical winger, let alone a full back (someone on here mentioned him playing there). He's most effective as a #10, behind the striker, and yet that position is as strong as any at Bayern.
Shaqiri is already sold to Inter and failed to become a regular starter there. From what I've read, Inter wouldn't mind selling Shaqiri again.
Does anyone here actually watch Donetsk regularly? I'm not overly impressed with Douglas Costa and think 35m is definitely too expensive for him, but then, I've seen him play a full game maybe 4 or 5 times over the last 3 years.
35m
I see, I thought he was only on loan to Inter.
But look at them come.
When the seagulls follow and all that.
He was loaned to Inter until the rest of the season with a clause that forces them to buy him for 18m Euro this summer. So yeah, he's still on loan at the moment but come July 1st when the transfer window opens, he's automatically sold for 18m. He won't return.
Is there a decent Ribery replacement anywhere in the market? The only player I could think of that could come close in the next years could be Hazard.
But buyable? Nothing. Everything is classes below it - might be great in a counter attacking team but in a ball possession team? And we probably need to get used to the sums on the transfer market where even average now costs big sums.
Shaqiri lacked the match intelligence - and as his other skills were good but never really exceptional... And whereas in the first year at Bayern he still was a great guy from the bench with the right mentality - he has not been anymore in the recent one and a half seasons at Bayern.
Costa for 35m€ would be such a weird transfer. I still don´t want to believe that this is going to happen. 
losing out on Depay is such a big miss for Bayern. He would have been perfect for them
We don't know if they went for him.
There was enaugh smoke to make the assumption but it's still an assumption I suppose.
I can't see why they'd spend 35m on Costa while a cheaper Depay was on the market and not go for him.
A goal scoring wideman who works hard and stretches the play would be a pretty good Ribery replacement
Douglas Costa is set to join Bayern Munich, Shakhtar Donetsk boss Mircea Lucescu confirmed on Friday.
The Ukrainian club have been in talks with the German champions over the 24-year-old's transfer for months, Lucescu told Dolce Sport.
"There have been discussions since the winter," Lucescu said. "Douglas couldn't develop any more with us."
The Shakhtar coach said Costa will one day succeed Arjen Robben, who at 31 missed more than two months of action at the end of last season.
"I see him taking on [Arjen] Robben's role -- he has a similar profile," Lucescu said. "He's only 24 years old, so he could reach his level in the coming years."
http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transf...-set-to-join-bayern-munichsays-shakhtar-coach
The Ukrainian club have been in talks with the German champions over the 24-year-old's transfer for months, Lucescu told Dolce Sport.
"There have been discussions since the winter," Lucescu said. "Douglas couldn't develop any more with us."
The Shakhtar coach said Costa will one day succeed Arjen Robben, who at 31 missed more than two months of action at the end of last season.
"I see him taking on [Arjen] Robben's role -- he has a similar profile," Lucescu said. "He's only 24 years old, so he could reach his level in the coming years."
http://www.espnfc.com/soccer-transf...-set-to-join-bayern-munichsays-shakhtar-coach
He was fine, good even, in the CL last season but that's about all my knowledge of the Shakhtar players. It took him a while to settle. The talent is there.
I think we need a dribbler, someone who can beat a man and create on his own against deep sitting defenses a lot more than another wide forward who wants to score. I wasn't impressed by Depay the few times I've seen him play either, let's wait how he develops at United before we talk like we missed out on a world class talent. I don't think we were really interested in him anyway, there were hardly any rumours about it in Germany.
While I agree I wonder if there really are any available wingers in the right age who are better dribblers than Depay. Any one in particular you got in mind?
To be fair I didn't say Depay would be a world class talent, just that he would be a better gamble for Bayern than Douglas would be for 35m.
Bayern may need a dribbler ( Depay wouldn't be deficient in that area) but what's attainable out there is a different matter.
I remember when Thiago first got linked with Bayern and there wasnt a peep or hint about it in Germany beforehand. All the German correspondents calling the rumour hard to believe based on that.
Then what happened
Bayern may need a dribbler ( Depay wouldn't be deficient in that area) but what's attainable out there is a different matter.
I remember when Thiago first got linked with Bayern and there wasnt a peep or hint about it in Germany beforehand. All the German correspondents calling the rumour hard to believe based on that.
Then what happened
No one who stands out, but I had the impression of Douglas Costa that he's actually a skilled dribbler, not someone who uses pace to beat players and would struggle against deep sitting defenses. That's the impression I have of Depay in the limit number of games I've seen him. I wouldn't trust either of them to replace Ribery or Robben for us though.
Well if you say it like that, you can argue that we missed out on every single transfer in the world, no matter if there were rumours or notI remember when Thiago first got linked with Bayern and there wasnt a peep or hint about it in Germany beforehand. All the German correspondents calling the rumour hard to believe based on that.
Then what happened
.You mean like Di Maria?
The problem is that DiMaria is a brainless, massively overpriced wannabe superstar on insanely high wages. Even if we overpay for the Costa transfer, I'm pretty sure that overall (wages included) he'll cost us a third or even less than Di Maria. And he doesn't have to play all that well to have a comparable season to Di Maria's last.
My words.
It is not like Pep's systems and demands are a level lower than that what van Gaal wants. Or that he really is that much nicer. The old man just is more direct and tells what he thinks - whereas Pep tells different but acts the same...
I've rated him since I first saw him for Gremio back when we were linked. It's about time somebody gave him a chance really, I just wish we had done.
Really talented player. Just needs guidance and he'll fly. Think he's best out on the right coming in on his left.
Really talented player. Just needs guidance and he'll fly. Think he's best out on the right coming in on his left.
Mate Di Maria at his best vs Costa is seriously a no contest. I could level similar accusations at alot of greats. Overpaid. Feck me I could level that at most of the leagues players.
I didn't say it was. I gave you good reasons why I wouldn't want us to buy Di Maria for 70m or whatever insane number you guys paid, because he's not that special (unless you pick those 6-8months in a very specific role, which is impossible to recreate somewhere else, and make it sound like that has been his regular form over the last 5 years). I also said that I wasn't really that impressed with Costa the few times I've seen him and believe we'll overpay if we sign him for 35m, so I've no clue what you want from me.
That's encouraging.
A very specific role yes but for the worlds best players that role is largely created to get the best from them. Because their best decides 80% of games. Thiago gives the ball away for fun at times. Yet, create the right environment and that boy shines. Its not unusual at all.
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