Donald Trump - All things impeachment.... | Acquitted in the Senate

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Things are escalating . Schiff as come out and said they will do all they can to protect the Whistle Blower.
 
Oohh it seems there’s a second whistleblower claiming Trump tried to interfere with an IRS audit of his taxes.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trum...fc6e4b08f48f4ae8978?ncid=engmodushpmg00000006

Except that one is being used as evidence to support a court case already. Article includes this gem..

In a brief last month, the committee told the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia that a “federal employee” had approached them with “evidence of possible misconduct” and “inappropriate efforts” to influence an IRS audit of the president. The document provided no further detail about the whistleblower, but in a footnote, Democrats offered to tell U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden all about it in private.

A spokesman for the committee said this week that McFadden, a Trump nominee who donated to the Trump 2016 campaign and volunteered for the Trump presidential transition, has so far not asked to hear more about the whistleblower. He denied a Democratic motion to speed up the case.
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Meanwhile Tulsi Gabbard is still against impeachment citing it would be "divisive". She's getting massively retweeted by the MAGA crowd this evening.
 
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Raoul said:


Meanwhile Tulsi Gabbard is still against impeachment citing it would be "divisive". She's getting massively retweeted by the MAGA crowd this evening.
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Not sure I agree with the being against impeachment stance but she obviously isn't wrong about it being an extremely divisive process if the case isn't as ironclad as it may appear to be now.
 
Raoul said:


Meanwhile Tulsi Gabbard is still against impeachment citing it would be "divisive". She's getting massively retweeted by the MAGA crowd this evening.
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What's the point? The Senate won't convict. People know politicians are corrupt. This whole Trump's corruption is way crazier than the normal corruption is just a waste of time.
 
mariachi-19 said:
cnuts cooked. Ukraine will throw Donald under the bus to ensure long term aid and support from future US persidents. If ya'll dont think that parts of the GOP wont throw Donald under the bus, you would be mistaken.
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GOP senators will be too scared to vote to "convict" Trump. They know full well if they vote to remove Trump, they will lose their seats in primaries.

Sadly self preservation is a huge thing in politics.
 
mariachi-19 said:
cnuts cooked. Ukraine will throw Donald under the bus to ensure long term aid and support from future US persidents. If ya'll dont think that parts of the GOP wont throw Donald under the bus, you would be mistaken.
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Parts meaning a few maybe. Otherwise, they've already crossed that Rubicon a long time ago.

There won't be enough time to recover for 2020 as long as this will be drawn out.
 
Man of Leisure said:
This will all be a gigantic waste of time and disappointment for the dems. Trump is teflon.
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At this stage only about a year before the election, I don't think the point would be to remove Trump from office through impeachment in the house and indictment in the senate. This will only give lots of fuel to the Republicans to pat themselves on their own back for doing the "right thing for the country" and would be the only thing that's covered in the media. The best thing would be to start the impeachment proceedings with hearing extending all the way to the election such that the unprecedented level of corruption, breaking law after law and shitting on the constitution continuously and also the fact that these Republicans have been done nothing about it remains in the forefront of the public view before the election. This hopefully would mean not only the presidency but also more gains in the house and senate. But given the republican senate has done everything possible to prevent any sort of improvement in election security, literally anything could happen then.
 
freeurmind said:
What's the point? The Senate won't convict. People know politicians are corrupt. This whole Trump's corruption is way crazier than the normal corruption is just a waste of time.
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This "who cares, the politicians are all corrupt" thing is ironically one of the reasons why American politics is somewhat corrupt. You're not outside of the problem, you're part of the problem.
 
I've got a few theories here:

1. The GOP think this can be managed.
2. They recognise how severe and damning the evidence is and due to the source and nature of this, none of them want to get in the way of it as the cover up is technically still ongoing so any efforts by any politician to continue to block the legitimate course of action could be treated as a criminal act rather than a political act.
3. They're happy to throw Trump under the bus. With a recession looming, they'd rather it fell on the watch of a Democrat president than a Republican so the Democrat agenda can be severely impacted by the financial crisis rather than the Republican agenda. It would then give the Republican's four years to rid their party of Trump, regroup and challenge in 2024.
 
Think it's simply to pacify senate Republicans in marginal seats.
 
Pexbo said:
I've got a few theories here:

1. The GOP think this can be managed.
2. They recognise how severe and damning the evidence is and due to the source and nature of this, none of them want to get in the way of it as the cover up is technically still ongoing so any efforts by any politician to continue to block the legitimate course of action could be treated as a criminal act rather than a political act.
3. They're happy to throw Trump under the bus. With a recession looming, they'd rather it fell on the watch of a Democrat president than a Republican so the Democrat agenda can be severely impacted by the financial crisis rather than the Republican agenda. It would then give the Republican's four years to rid their party of Trump, regroup and challenge in 2024.
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2. No. This will be a political action, not a criminal one. The GOP will not operate in their efforts of obstruction under fear of criminal prosecution aside from those already implicated.
 
This is really bad. The whistleblower alleges white house lawyers were engaged in a cover up.
 
I know it's a fecking meme now but seriously, surely this has to be enough to get him? It looks like Barr is toast too.
 
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