Does Garnacho remind you of Ronaldo?

mshnsh said:
Simply not true. He belonged to a group of similarly talented footballers. He rose above them due to determination and hardwork that no other player had/has.

Totally disagree because his game lacked the genius in his allround game of the likes of (chronologically) Pele, Maradona, L. Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Messi to name a few. What he has in his favour are stats and longevity. Hack, in the Premier league, most who are not United fans, will tell you that Henry was better.
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Yes but it was a small group. Who else was hyped to the same degree and was around the same age? Messi, Robben and Rooney. You could maybe make a claim for Quaresma too. At the time Ronaldo was one of the top young players in Europe and the others I mentioned except Quaresma all went on to be great players.

I don't think Garnacho is thought of in the same way. It's not a negative because I think he can become a very good player and is obviously a huge talent I'm just saying I don't think you can compare to Ronaldo at the same age.
 
Ibi Dreams said:
Not really, different kind of player.

Garnacho is much more of a space merchant right now, and he's brilliant at that. He hasn't really shown anything yet about playing against a tight defence. Young Ronaldo was all tricks and dribbling and beating defenders
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Young Ronaldo was 500 stepovers a game
 
More like Rashford, who also seemed to get goals every time he played during his debut years.

Ronaldo though, he'd just run at people. That's a more special talent. Nani another. We need one of those types of players I think.
 
Ronaldo had a devastating shot on him and could score goals out of nothing. Not seen that from Garnacho… yet! But still only 18!
 
Yes, The only difference between them is the way they got signed. We bought Ronaldo after a very impressive match. I had crazy expectations and tbf he delivered. Garnacho we got at a much earlier stage and even though I got really excited before he got his first chance, it’s something else when you buy someone.

Say we bought Garnacho at a similar stage like Ronaldo. Trust me, more on here would answer Yes.
 
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Ronaldo was miles more exciting than Garnacho is at the same age. Magical feet.

Garnacho to me seems like a very good player in the making, but I doubt he'll end up as world class. He's benefiting from his role as a specialist cameo attacker in late stages of games against tired defenders.
 
Thiagoal said:
Ronaldo had a devastating shot on him and could score goals out of nothing. Not seen that from Garnacho… yet! But still only 18!
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Not at this age. Ronaldo was a twinkle toed dribbler with almost zero end product. The fact he transitioned into one of the greatest pure goalscorers of all time is one of the most unpredictable but successful transformations in football. The equivalent would be if Garnacho suddenly became a world class #10 in his prime.

For me, the answer to the OP is yes because of this:
Big Andy said:
The only similarity between Garnacho and Ronaldo in his early days was the buzz when he was coming on. You could feel it yesterday, the atmosphere went up a notch or two when he came on.
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I can see some similarities in terms of fearlessness and directness. Just hope he doesn’t start pining for Madrid in a few years.
 
I think there is as much potential in garnacho as ronaldo had. At 18 I genuinely think garnacho has had more impact and can go to the top. Although what do I know I thought Januzaj was going to be special
 
The only player close to Ronaldo we have had is Greenwood. It's a shame he is who he is, he had/had the ability to match Mbappe, in my bias opinion. Garnacho is brilliant, but based on his career to date, has a long way to be near Ronaldo at that age. This is football though, anything could happen and maybe Garnacho wins 5 Ballon D'or by time he is 28. Pipe dream of course, but you get the point. No use in comparing players at a young age, Messi was streets ahead of a 18 year old Ronaldo, but ny trusty bias opinion pips Ronaldo as the best athlete in the world.
 
What makes me feel old is remembering when we signed Ronaldo like it was yesterday. He was like something we'd never seen before. The whole stadium and everyone at home expected something to happen each time he got the ball. Whenever he tried something and it didn't work you'd hold your hands up as a supporter and admit you wouldn't have even thought to try it in the first place. Not to say Garnacho isn't talented, but Ronaldo was something else.
 
Not at all. Ronaldo was not just better, he was different to anything that came before. He was groundbreaking. Garnacho is one of many of his type.
 
clean-sheet-culkin said:
This isn't a messiah thread, more curious if those of you watching us in the early 2000s relate to this.
  • Teenager
  • Insane raw ability
  • Surrounded by an experienced team.
  • Manager trying to keep him in check but clearly excited (without showing it).
  • Left winger, not afraid to run at people, can score a goal.
  • Good players in the team excited by his talent, bad players weary.
  • A bit petulant.
  • Murmurs of excitement and anticipation when he is on the bench.
  • Not the finished product, but clearly could be if he works and bulks over the next 3 years.
Its hard to explain, but when he scored this weekend, the way he totally ignored Weggy, his reaction and his stare in to the crowd, his confidence borderline total arrogance, it just gave me the same feeling as Ronaldo's first season.

IF (and a massive if) he develops the way he can, he 'feels' like a Man Utd 7.

Thoughts?
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Nothing alike. Close thread.
 
He's only on par with old Ronaldo if the Old Trafford crowd start chanting "No End Product!" at him on the regular.
 
Everyone knew with CR7. Not sure about Garnacho, yet, even though the potential is there.

I was way more excited about Greenwood than I am about Garnacho - felt he had that you just know it factor. So not for me.
 
Isotope said:
He reminds me more of young Giggs.
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Not old enough to be around when Giggs broke through but that’s the impression I got as well, just based on all the end of season DVD footage/compilation I watched over the years. The way Garnacho just run at his fullback is more reminiscent of old school wingers like Giggs, Sharpe and Kanchelski rather than the million stepovers Ronaldo would try each game.
 
I Don’t see it from a stylistic point of view. Ronald played wide in a 442 at that age so he was expected to progress the ball and he mainly operated from the touch line, providing crosses and taking people on. He didn’t get into the box anywhere as much in his younger days.
Garnacho plays as a wide forward, whose main intention is to drive towards the box and get shots in on goal. His game is mostly focused on scoring goals the the typical modern day inverted forward.

Personality wise, I think Ronaldo was more timid, although that wasn’t reflected in his performances.
 
There’s some similarity and also some distinctive difference.

Garnacho is more directed but less talented. Whereas Ronaldo was more flashy/electrifying but more of a showpony too.

I’d definitely place Ronaldo among top 3 young talent in the world at that time, not sure how I’d put Garnacho in the game today, probably among top 10?

I still remembered young Ronaldo was first introduced to the scene, he really sets the league alight. You can tell straightaway he was a generational talent with his quick feet, electrifying pace and so full of skills/tricks. He was like a young Giggs in terms of talents (Giggs was very much a symbol of wonderkid in football during his younger days). Although no one would expect him to turn into that goalscoring freak and one of the GOAT.
 
OL29 said:
I Don’t see it from a stylistic point of view. Ronald played wide in a 442 at that age so he was expected to progress the ball and he mainly operated from the touch line, providing crosses and taking people on. He didn’t get into the box anywhere as much in his younger days.
Garnacho plays as a wide forward, whose main intention is to drive towards the box and get shots in on goal. His game is mostly focused on scoring goals the the typical modern day inverted forward.

Personality wise, I think Ronaldo was more timid, although that wasn’t reflected in his performances.
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Funny thing is that the typical modern day inverted forward role is actually originated/modelled from Ronaldo, when he started putting up those numbers regularly in such revolutionary role during his late Man Utd/early Real Madrid years.
 
FrankDrebin said:
He reminds me of Alexis Sanchez.
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Good shout. He’s a cracking young player. If he can keep this up who knows how high he can reach. It’s up to him to kick on next season though. That is when most breakthrough players get a really nice deal and start to drop off get injured or are unprofessional (Wilson MG Adnan) He’s a massive talent and he could very well end up world class if he’s driven enough. He was genuinely touted as such as a youth player. Speaking of which Amad is also looking very very good these days. Exciting to see these kinds of signings start to work out for us again. it’s the way forward. I hope we start looking for central strikers and midfielders in the same age bracket to hopefully start forcing their way into the squad in their second or third season possibly after a loan or two.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
Not old enough to be around when Giggs broke through but that’s the impression I got as well, just based on all the end of season DVD footage/compilation I watched over the years. The way Garnacho just run at his fullback is more reminiscent of old school wingers like Giggs, Sharpe and Kanchelski rather than the million stepovers Ronaldo would try each game.
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Agree with this, I remember the early 90's team and I think Garnacho is a lot like Kanchelskis the way he's so direct with his dribbling. I don't see the Ronaldo comparison apart from the same excitement when he gets the ball like the crowd is expecting him to do something everytime he gets it
 
At the same age Garnacho is better than Ronaldo was…but it remains to be seen whether Garnacho can come anywhere close to where Ronaldo was at 21.
 
RedRonaldo said:
Funny thing is that the typical modern day inverted forward role is actually originated/modelled from Ronaldo, when he started putting up those numbers regularly in such revolutionary role during his late Man Utd/early Real Madrid years.
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I was thinking this when typing that post. Ronaldo was a pioneer in that sense. I would say that Ronaldo would be a good player for Garnacho to model his game on but I’d be surprised if he can ever provide Ronaldo’s aerial threat and prowess in the box. I’m not sure there’s been a wide forward as complete as Ronaldo.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
Not old enough to be around when Giggs broke through but that’s the impression I got as well, just based on all the end of season DVD footage/compilation I watched over the years. The way Garnacho just run at his fullback is more reminiscent of old school wingers like Giggs, Sharpe and Kanchelski rather than the million stepovers Ronaldo would try each game.
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Yeah. I wasn't United fan when Giggs broke through but from watching video clips of young Giggs. Ronaldo was a showman since he's young, which Garnacho isn't. There are similarities that they both are wingers, direct, fast, and could score.
 
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