Do you still watch when we're 3-0 down?

I taped last nights match due to another commitment but I came home and having heard the score wiped the tape. Not so much because we lost by such a ridiculous score but because I have been watching similar results all season. Winning games is such a rarity now I was not really surprised, so I don’t think I will watch any more this season including the inevitable slaughter in the FA cup final. Good grief we only just managed to beat Sheffield United and could not beat Burnley.
We have become the laughing stock of football.
 
Nope going to gym now.

United losing means I’m out making gains.
 
I actually switched to Bundesliga which I hate. But before anyone of you think, I'm not disappointed. In fact, I should be proud of myself as what's happening now is exactly what I predicted before the season. No marquee signings, poor Zirkzee, and clueless ten Hag. Well, to correct myself, I predicted 6th place before the start of the season, now I lost my optimism, could be 10th.
 
Yes. It has to be witnessed. Have to endure the shite so that one day you can enjoy the sunshine.
 
I once watched PSV Feyenoord while we were 10-0 down. You merely adopted the pain.
 
I watch every game of United to the last second. Watched it to the end even when we were 7-0, let alone 3-0

I have my therapist on speed dial, too :)
 
Of course. I always hope that we’ll see a spark of a recovery or a sub that actually improves us and might be the answer to our problems.
 
I'm genuinely curious, how many of you guys with young kids manage to keep your kids invested in the club in this era?

There'll be teenagers who have grown up watching United as the club that have lost 6-1, 5-0, 4-0, 7-0, 6-3, many 4-0s and many, many 3-0 high profile defeats.
 
Always... Kept watching when we were losing 6-1 and 7-0 as well.
 
Yes still watch were man united. The lounge will have numerous items smashed after 2 nil though. But I love this club, things will improve with or without eth
 
Couldn't watch today cuz of poor Wi-Fi at the wedding I was at. But watched the 0-7
 
To be perfectly honest, United have always been a huge emotional anchor for me. They are the only thing linking me to my long deceased father, and the only happy memory I have of a childhood with a man that otherwise did me irreparable and untold harm.

For almost my entire life I have had an emotional connection with the club that transcends any rational explanation. They have carried me through the bleakest of times in so many different ways, and it has been my privilege to suffer with them even when things weren’t going well on the pitch.

Some years back I had a daughter. She’s still young (9), and at some point I had to recognise the hold the fortunes of the team had over my moods at the weekend. There’s no excuse for skipping time playing with your kid to watch the game, only then to be cranky and moody for the rest of the day if the performance and result was horrible. My family themselves commented on the fate of the weekend resting on the result of the game.

It didn’t take me long to realise how sad and pathetic that was. I’ve given a lifetime of emotional investment to this club, but my daughter coming into my life has completely changed where that energy goes. As it should be. She deserves the best of me, all the time, not just when United win.

So, a few years back I took a significant step back from allowing United to unbalance me emotionally. I now view the club through much more objective and analytical eyes, and I couldn’t be happier for it. I’ve only watched one game so far this season, the home opener, and I saw enough there to know what this season would hold. A dispassionate assessment that saw an inevitable repeat of the same mistakes as last season, with no midfield, baffling instructions, and a manager embarrassingly out of his depth. I played Lego with my daughter this morning instead of watching the match. It was great. I don’t owe the club any more than what I’ve already given them, which emotionally is everything, and financially quite a lot.

I’ll always love and support United but I’ll never let them affect my life again. The stakes are too high now, and at the end of the day, it’s just football. Less enthralling, less romantic by the hour. I spend more time talking about amortisation schedules these days, than I do any artistry in the game - which has all but been eradicated by modern coaching.

United will, in my humble opinion, continue to make excellent strides off the pitch in terms of recruitment, and infrastructure development under Ineos - an interesting case study to follow that will take shape and yield fruit over the course of several years. United will also, again in my humble opinion, continue to be a proverbial laughing stock and debacle on the field for as long as Ten Hag remains manager. There will be the odd false dawn, there will be endless circular debates about injuries, patience, structure, scapegoating players etc etc, but my assessment is that under his leadership United will be a complete non-entity in the league. We’ll score a frightening low amount of goals, we’ll experience several more chastening humiliations against rivals, and we’ll continue to operate with a tactical naivety that beggars belief.

Hence, I will likely watch only a very small percentage of games this season, subject to convenience, opponent, and form. I’m not getting invested, or letting myself be affected by an exercise in futility. I follow games remotely, through here, mbm’s, highlights etc; but I’m not fully checking back in until we have a new manager. I am THAT convinced that it’s a waste of time to do otherwise.

If I am wrong, and he turns it around and comes good, humility is in no short supply in this household and I will hold my hands up, say I was wrong and get back to enjoying watching United. But, as a simple risk assessment exercise, all rational logic points to the outcome I have bet on. It’s a sad and depressing outcome and I want to be clear that I take no joy in it, but quite simply for the sake of self preservation and having a healthy, happy home environment, the decision to divest myself of emotional connection to current outcomes, seems the only logic choice.

I’m too old, given too much, and have too many other responsibilities - practical, moral and emotional - to do differently at this point. Time is my most precious commodity. I’m mid forties, work in a high pressure job, have little free time, am a single parent, and I have to make use of almost every free minute I have, and moreover, use it wisely. Watching United under Ten Hag, and getting bent out of shape when the predictable becomes actual, doesn’t meet the criteria.

I do advise that some people who take this stuff really hard - that used to be me too - learn to step away and take a breath. Nothing is forever, and if Ineos keep doing the right things, then better times lay ahead. What you don’t want to do, not really, not in your heart, is turn on individuals and become toxic and hateful towards players. It’s ugly and we are better than that. They are in an impossible situation under leadership that is fundamentally unequipped and catastrophic for consistently competitive performances. Nothing on the field will change, until the manager changes. No amount of signings, no amount of abuse thrown at players, none of it will change that.

And what definitely won’t change that, is allowing your anger, frustration or despair over abject and humiliating performances like today, to spill over into your personal life. To the decisions you make, to what you feel inside, and to how you treat those around you. So a caring word of advice from me to you all, is to remember not to carry that negative emotion with you out into your world. It’s never worth it.
 
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When the games tight like today? Yes. We could have scored 3 ourselves. It's a shite day. They were just more clinical. fecking nonsense that they won 3-0
 
To be perfectly honest, United have always been a huge emotional anchor for me. They are the only thing linking me to my long deceased father, and the only happy memory I have of a childhood with a man that otherwise did me irreparable and untold harm.

For almost my entire life I have had an emotional connection with the club that transcends any rational explanation. They have carried me through the bleakest of times in so many different ways, and it has been my privilege to suffer with them even when things weren’t going well on the pitch.

Some years back I had a daughter. She’s still young (9), and at some point I had to recognise the hold the fortunes of the team had over my moods at the weekend. There’s no excuse for skipping time playing with your kid to watch the game, only then to be cranky and moody for the rest of the day if the performance and result was horrible. My family themselves commented on the fate of the weekend resting on the result of the game.

It didn’t take me long to realise how sad and pathetic that was. I’ve given a lifetime of emotional investment to this club, but my daughter coming into my life has completely changed where that energy goes. As it should be. She deserves the best of me, all the time, not just when United win.

So, a few years back I took a significant step back from allowing United to unbalance me emotionally. I now view the club through much more objective and analytical eyes, and I couldn’t be happier for it. I’ve only watched one game so far this season, the home opener, and I saw enough there to know what this season would hold. A dispassionate assessment that saw an inevitable repeat of the same mistakes as last season, with no midfield, baffling instructions, and a manager embarrassingly out of his depth. I played Lego with my daughter this morning instead of watching the match. It was great. I don’t owe the club any more than what I’ve already given them, which emotionally is everything, and financially quite a lot.

I’ll always love and support United but I’ll never let them affect my life again. The stakes are too high now, and at the end of the day, it’s just football. Less enthralling, less romantic by the hour. I spend more time talking about amortisation schedules these days, than I do any artistry in the game - which has all but been eradicated by modern coaching.

United will, in my humble opinion, continue to make excellent strides off the pitch in terms of recruitment, and infrastructure development under Ineos - an interesting case study to follow that will take shape and yield fruit over the course of several years. United will also, again in my humble opinion, continue to be a proverbial laughing stock and debacle on the field for as long as Ten Hag remains manager. There will be the odd false dawn, there will be endless circular debates about injuries, patience, structure, scapegoating players etc etc, but my assessment is that under his leadership United will be a complete non-entity in the league. We’ll score a frightening low amount of goals, we’ll experience several more chastening humiliations against rivals, and we’ll continue to operate with a tactical naivety that beggars belief.

Hence, I will likely watch only a very small percentage of games this season, subject to convenience, opponent, and form. I’m not getting invested, or letting myself be affected by an exercise in futility. I follow games remotely, through here, mbm’s, highlights etc; but I’m not fully checking back in until we have a new manager. I am THAT convinced that it’s a waste of time otherwise.

I’m too old, given too much, and have too many other responsibilities - practical, moral and emotional - to do differently at this point.

I do advise that some people who take this stuff really hard - that used to be me too - learn to step away and take a breath. Nothing is forever, and if Ineos keep doing the right things, then better times lay ahead. What you don’t want to do, not really, not in your heart, is turn on individuals and become toxic and hateful towards players. It’s ugly and we are better than that. They are in an impossible situation under leadership that is fundamentally unequipped and catastrophic for consistently competitive performances. Nothing on the field will change, until the manager changes. No amount of signings, no amount of abuse thrown at players, none of it will change that.

And what definitely won’t change that, is allowing your anger, frustration or despair over abject and humiliating performances like today, spill over into your personal life. To the decisions you make, to what you feel inside, and to how you treat those around you. So a caring word of advice from me to you all, is to remember not to carry that negative emotion with you out into your world. It’s never worth it.
I took my son to his first game against Fulham as he's now really getting into football, and today I had several outbursts and realised the poor example I was showing to him. Football is supposed to be fun and neither one of us had fun today and it's ruined my mood all evening. I don't want to take a step back but need to change my perspective entirely. We aren't competing for the title (I already knew that) probably not even top 4. I'll enjoy the good moments and remind myself of where we actually are in the footballing landscape these days during the bad momenta.

I do believe good times are coming, I just think it's going to take some some patience.
 
When the games tight like today? Yes. We could have scored 3 ourselves. It's a shite day. They were just more clinical. fecking nonsense that they won 3-0
Not just clinical, we gifted them all 3 goals. They baited us into playing through the middle and we fell for it.
 
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I took my son to his first game against Fulham as he's now really getting into football, and today I had several outbursts and realised the poor example I was showing to him. Football is supposed to be fun and neither one of us had fun today and it's ruined my mood all evening. I don't want to take a step back but need to change my perspective entirely. We aren't competing for the title (I already knew that) probably not even top 4. I'll enjoy the good moments and remind myself of where we actually are in the footballing landscape these days during the bad momenta.

I do believe good times are coming, I just think it's going to take some some patience.
Thank you for responding. It’s really good to hear from another parent of a young child and how the emotional response to days like today can take us out of character. It can be impactful on children and we always have to be cognisant of the example we are setting and the lessons we are teaching. There are no exceptions, not for United, not for anything.

Being a parent is easy. But being a good parent is the hardest thing in the world. You don’t need validation from a stranger like me, so forgive me if this sounds patronising, but you should pat yourself on the back for being conscientious and self reflective enough to recognise that your reactions today weren’t setting the right example. That’s not easy for many people to do, and for me….a sign of very good parenting.

I also thing your decision to remain invested and show him you can both enjoy the experience together, through the good times and the bad, is a really great lesson for him to learn, and inarguably has more merit than my approach of stepping away. For me, my decision is complicated by the deep emotional ties the club had to my father and the traumas I experienced with him.
 
Thank you for responding. It’s really good to hear from another parent of a young child and how the emotional response to days like today can take us out of character. It can be impactful on children and we always have to be cognisant of the example we are setting and the lessons we are teaching. There are no exceptions, not for United, not for anything.

Being a parent is easy. But being a good parent is the hardest thing in the world. You don’t need validation from a stranger like me, so forgive me if this sounds patronising, but you should pat yourself on the back for being conscientious and self reflective enough to recognise that your reactions today weren’t setting the right example. That’s not easy for many people to do, and for me….a sign of very good parenting.

I also thing your decision to remain invested and show him you can both enjoy the experience together, through the good times and the bad, is a really great lesson for him to learn, and inarguably has more merit than my approach of stepping away. For me, my decision is complicated by the deep emotional ties the club had to my father and the traumas I experienced with him.
Appreciate that mate, we just need to take a step back sometimes, just a little perspective needed. Sounds like you're doing a great job too.
 
Appreciate that mate, we just need to take a step back sometimes, just a little perspective needed. Sounds like you're doing a great job too.
Thank you. Trying to. It’s not easy, working 60 hours a week, doing the school runs and pick ups, and still having the energy to play with her on the weekends and evenings. Especially demanding because she’s an only child, and I’m also alone. That said, she’s brilliant. She understands that I’m working for our future, and never complains; and I’m lucky that I work remotely 95% of the time and can do things like school runs while I’m on conference calls etc.

It also helps that from a young age I got her into pop culture influences that I myself could also enjoy. Frozen and shit like that never got a play in my house. From as young as she could remember o exposed her to things like Marvel (her favourite character is Thor!), and video games. Every parent has that movie, or movies, that they’ve seen a thousand times because their kid loves it so much; well luckily for me, mine was Thor Rangnarok - arguably the best marvel film - and the infinity saga. Even more remarkable because she’s a little girl. Her second favourite genre is sci-fi (yes, another cunningly ploy from me) and her second favourite film is Prey (the recent Predator movie). So much so that we dressed up as the two main characters for this last Halloween.

Her number one favourite past time with Daddy is to play Battle Royale on Fortnite, and she’s actually become really good! We’ve won countless duos over the last year :lol: . So whilst it can be tough, it’s also not just incredibly rewarding but it can also be a ton of fun!