Do you believe Ronaldo is finished as a top level player?

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Transfers like Ronaldo happen time and time again at united. I am talking about very expensive over the hill players who bring absolutely zero to the team and subsequently are hard to get rid off because of their gargantuan contracts.
The latest in this long list is Casemiro. I was happy with this transfer initially but it looks like it was another panic buy that Ten Hag didn’t completely approve off.

With all the higher up changes that happened this season it is very worrying that it is still happening, it doesn’t bode well for the future.
 
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Better for everyone if he leaves, can’t be undermining the manager.

All the headlines this week have been about Ronaldo. During the week about the stupid disrespect. Then last night about his shocking game, reaction and everything around it.

Meanwhile Rashford and Martial score 3 goals off the bench and save us and nobody's talking about it.

It's a circus and he's not worth the hassle anymore.
 
Yea get him out of here in January please, doesn't offer us anything anymore besides drama/headaches.
 
People who believe anything the media writes, especially Duncan Castles, seriously need to take a long and hard look at themselves. There are no leaks here. Its just another 1+1=2 story.
 
As much as I've loved him, yes. It comes to every player, there's no shame in it. And what a career he has had. Time for him to celebrate it, rather than cling on to it.
 
I think he is finished at the top level and pretty much all of the top clubs know this. Probably why only Saudi were in for him over the summer.

It’s sad to see but it happens to everyone at some point. Especially someone at 37 who’s been explosive AF. Interesting though how Giggs managed it so well, he was awesome at 37.
 

I wonder if Ronaldo reads any of this … surely he must be able to see warning lights flashing … desperately needs an epic World Cup or this season will be known as the one where he was finished as a world class player.
 

Why should we believe this? The fact is that Ronaldo is trying really hard, is genuinely sad that he can’t score and doesn’t refuse to come off the bench. Why would he rock the boat when his contract is set to expire this season? Why do anything to destabilize the team he is looking forward to leave and get fans against him? How do we know any of this is true?
 
Why should we believe this? The fact is that Ronaldo is trying really hard, is genuinely sad that he can’t score and doesn’t refuse to come off the bench. Why would he rock the boat when his contract is set to expire this season? Why do anything to destabilize the team he is looking forward to leave and get fans against him? How do we know any of this is true?

Because it's written by Duncan Castles who is a Mendes mouthpiece.

About why he is doing this? Well it's likely because he has a fragile ego and cannot accept that he's finished. So if he's playing badly, he deludes himself into thinking it must be the manager that is causing it. Definitely not him. It's all on ETH.
 
I think he is finished at the top level and pretty much all of the top clubs know this. Probably why only Saudi were in for him over the summer.

It’s sad to see but it happens to everyone at some point. Especially someone at 37 who’s been explosive AF. Interesting though how Giggs managed it so well, he was awesome at 37.
Les Ferdinand made it to 38.
 
I think that’s a bit harsh. According to this Ronaldo’s conversion rate for Madrid was 7%, which is better than the likes of De Bruyne, Neymar and many other regular free kick takers. And around that period between 2007-2011 he scored a lot of goals, surely at a higher conversion rate - probably at a similar rate to Maddison and Kolarov, and a better rate than someone like Alexander Arnold (assuming Marca’s numbers are right).

He was always an incredibly frustrating free kick taker because he never had the precision or consistency you see in great free kick takers, but there was a period where he was incredibly prolific from them, more so than genuinely great free kick takers, in part because he could score from more positions than most players around.

Juninho definitely mastered that free kick style before Ronaldo. I’m sure there were others in decades past too.
That is pretty impressive at his peak actually I’ll admit that.

Ronaldo had about 3 years in Madrid I seem to remember when he was just ridiculous hitting like 60 goals a season which is insanity for any footballer.

Basically what Haaland is doing now but from a wider position so maybe for a few years he was focused on free kicks in training more.

I remember Juninho been the best free kick taker in the 90’s / 00’s too. Pirlo was up there and Beck’s but Juninho was a threat from anywhere in the opponents half on those. Brilliant player and probably still the best free kick taker I can think of.

Messi might be the second best in this later half of his career he has become almost unplayable at times with free kicks closer to goal.
 
It was unecessary to bring him back. Stupid thing to do.
 
For those who say Duncan Castles is a mouthpiece, let's take a look at the article. He says Ronaldo is not happy with the training methods. Logically, this would have been acceptable if it was right at the start of the season, where Ronaldo was already working with ETH's training methods. It would also make sense since there was already another rumour that he was going to leave (transfer window period).

But now, especially after 9+ games in? It makes no sense and it seems like Duncan just wanted to create an article based on Ronaldo's overall actions during the game and when he is on the bench. Its a nothing article but made into something because there are people who really want to believe in the Ronaldo is underground football mafia leader who can destroy dressing rooms with his mere stare.
 
For those who say Duncan Castles is a mouthpiece, let's take a look at the article. He says Ronaldo is not happy with the training methods. Logically, this would have been acceptable if it was right at the start of the season, where Ronaldo was already working with ETH's training methods. It would also make sense since there was already another rumour that he was going to leave (transfer window period).

But now, especially after 9+ games in? It makes no sense and it seems like Duncan just wanted to create an article based on Ronaldo's overall actions during the game and when he is on the bench. Its a nothing article but made into something because there are people who really want to believe in the Ronaldo is underground football mafia leader who can destroy dressing rooms with his mere stare.

The logic behind the article is simple. Distract from how shit and old Ronaldo looks especially his awful performance on Thursday with a bait and switch. Turn the focus to ETH and united and how they might be shit regardless of Ronaldo.
 
The logic behind the article is simple. Distract from how shit and old Ronaldo looks especially his awful performance on Thursday with a bait and switch. Turn the focus to ETH and united and how they might be shit regardless of Ronaldo.

Would it not make sense if he wrote that Ronaldo is extremely unhappy with sitting on the bench and has a 1 on 1 with ETH where he has made his decision to leave? Duncan Castle's article is nothing but desperation as there was an article from Telegraph that he was planning to leave in Jan, which was written a few days ago . So Duncan's paper made him write another story which would give them the "upper hand" on the news attraction scale.

Most of you posters don't really understand that the media is all about business, not facts. If a paper breaks a story, another one will report it differently or look for another story to up the stakes. You can seriously count on your hand the number of articles that are factually correct, especially when it comes to such rumours.
 
For those who say Duncan Castles is a mouthpiece, let's take a look at the article. He says Ronaldo is not happy with the training methods. Logically, this would have been acceptable if it was right at the start of the season, where Ronaldo was already working with ETH's training methods. It would also make sense since there was already another rumour that he was going to leave (transfer window period).

But now, especially after 9+ games in? It makes no sense and it seems like Duncan just wanted to create an article based on Ronaldo's overall actions during the game and when he is on the bench. Its a nothing article but made into something because there are people who really want to believe in the Ronaldo is underground football mafia leader who can destroy dressing rooms with his mere stare.
Exactly, it reads like bullshit to me doesn’t exactly paint Ronaldo or Ten Hag in a good light no point to the article at all..
 
The fact that this comes from Castles seems to be lost on some people. He isn't a random journo in this context.

He isn't likely to invent a story like this (for clicks) if Ronaldo's relationship with ETH is actually just fine.
 
Would it not make sense if he wrote that Ronaldo is extremely unhappy with sitting on the bench and has a 1 on 1 with ETH where he has made his decision to leave? Duncan Castle's article is nothing but desperation as there was an article from Telegraph that he was planning to leave in Jan, which was written a few days ago . So Duncan's paper made him write another story which would give them the "upper hand" on the news attraction scale.

Most of you posters don't really understand that the media is all about business, not facts. If a paper breaks a story, another one will report it differently or look for another story to up the stakes. You can seriously count on your hand the number of articles that are factually correct, especially when it comes to such rumours.

Eth has already publicly said Ronaldo is not happy with sitting on the bench. That's hardly news. As to the rest of your points it's just clutching at straws. Upper hand on the news attraction scale, explaining how media works.
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Ronaldo the petulant child can't stand being shit. It's clearly not his fault. That stubbornness is part of what made him great so its understandable but as united fans we owe him nothing.
 
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Would it not make sense if he wrote that Ronaldo is extremely unhappy with sitting on the bench and has a 1 on 1 with ETH where he has made his decision to leave? Duncan Castle's article is nothing but desperation as there was an article from Telegraph that he was planning to leave in Jan, which was written a few days ago . So Duncan's paper made him write another story which would give them the "upper hand" on the news attraction scale.

Most of you posters don't really understand that the media is all about business, not facts. If a paper breaks a story, another one will report it differently or look for another story to up the stakes. You can seriously count on your hand the number of articles that are factually correct, especially when it comes to such rumours.
Why would Castles risk his relationship with the Mendes/Ronaldo camp like that? If it were like you were saying it would go under a pseudonym so that he could keep getting what you think of as the legitimate stories.

Your logic is inherently flawed.
 
Exactly, it reads like bullshit to me doesn’t exactly paint Ronaldo or Ten Hag in a good light no point to the article at all..

What has happened here is that Ronaldo and his agent fed a story to their media mouthpiece trying to put pressure on ETH, without realizing they sound like utter twats in their own version of the story. The reason for this is that Ronaldo and his agents are behaving like twats.
 
Is Ronaldo performing at a worse level now than Martial and Rashford performed at over the last two seasons?
 
It's a real matter of concern that he doesn't shoot with his left foot anymore. He takes too many touches. It's odd.
 
Is Ronaldo performing at a worse level now than Martial and Rashford performed at over the last two seasons?
No not even close, Ronaldo’s missing chances Martial and Rashford didn’t even make chances.
 
It's a real matter of concern that he doesn't shoot with his left foot anymore. He takes too many touches. It's odd.
His first shot the keeper saved brilliantly was with his left foot, probably his best effort all game.
 
His first shot the keeper saved brilliantly was with his left foot, probably his best effort all game.
It's the one at the end of the game, when he had the chance to take it first time. He tried to pull it back on his right and was dispossessed.
 
His first shot the keeper saved brilliantly was with his left foot, probably his best effort all game.
And his assist to Rashford also had the looks of a left footed shot. (Especially since his initial reaction seemed to me like one of frustration :lol: - I did only see that from the back though)
 
It's the one at the end of the game, when he had the chance to take it first time. He tried to pull it back on his right and was dispossessed.
Yeah think that was purely confidence as the game wasn’t going his way, trying to make sure of it too much and wasted the chance.
 
In case anyone still think why Ronaldo can't get a club that willing to sign him last summer window. He is the third highest paid player in the world. No club in right mind would pay him that except us.

https://www.espn.com.sg/soccer/pari...essicristiano-ronaldo-to-top-forbes-rich-list

The article doesn't fully expand on the earnings. Significant portions come from endorsements and off-pitch earnings. Mbappe's number is grossly inflated from the bonus he reportedly received as he only receives around $15-20m off-pitch. Ronaldo earned half his reported number off the pitch but I am curious how the 60m number (below) is calculated. He must have received some bonuses in addition to salary.

https://www.forbes.com/profile/cristiano-ronaldo/?sh=7ecf851565dc
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brettk...0-highest-paid-athletes-2022/?sh=24fece281f6c