Ermm, what ?
Do you believe Ronaldo is finished as a top level player?
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Ermm, what ?
Yes. And I have done for quite a while.
Sad watching the decline of a truly great player .
But there it is.
Sad watching the decline of a truly great player .
But there it is.
Go way out of that, he most definitely is a United legend.
I get where you're coming from. His time at Madrid completely overshadows his time here. But United only have 3 European cups, and he was a major part of one, as well as 3 consecutive league titles.
On the decline.
He scored 42 goals in 46 starts as a midfielder. He scored 8 of United 20 goals in CL, 3 out of Uniteds 7 in the KO stages and the only goal in the final. And yeah. He won Ballon d'or with 446 votes with Rooney on 13th place with 11 votes and Giggs and Scholes got no votes.
I absolutely hate Ronaldos persona but this thread is getting more ridiculous for every minute.
Yeah, that's fine. I am not saying nobody can call him a United Legend, many are and it's fine. But was mostly making the same point as what you said better that "his time at Real Madrid overshadows his time at United" and RM wasn't gonna stick with him after his decline, so we shouldn't have either.
No, he definitely is not our legend.
Nature has cut up with him sadly, has they say nature can't be cheated.
He is done at top level. No doubt anymore.
The competition in our team is sadly not that great so he will obviously play a part this season.
But the thing i hate more than anything when he plays is that most of our players constantly looks for him in the attack. Even if there are other players making good runs they feel they just have to squeeze it through to him somehow. I guess it comes with pure instinct.
Rashford was in a great position to score another one and make it a comfortable win in the end, but no, what if he could get a high five and a hug from a smiling Ronaldo. That would be a million times better…
The competition in our team is sadly not that great so he will obviously play a part this season.
But the thing i hate more than anything when he plays is that most of our players constantly looks for him in the attack. Even if there are other players making good runs they feel they just have to squeeze it through to him somehow. I guess it comes with pure instinct.
Rashford was in a great position to score another one and make it a comfortable win in the end, but no, what if he could get a high five and a hug from a smiling Ronaldo. That would be a million times better…
As I said in his performance thread, his finishing is terrible at the moment but his all-round performance is comfortably better than what Rashford has been dishing up in that striker position. Obviously Martial should be our first choice when fit, but when he's not playing we're much better off with Ronaldo up front and Rashford on the left.
Ronaldo is still getting into the positions and getting chances, he's just struggling to put them away. I'd much rather that than him not even getting into the right positions anymore. The latter is much more likely to be permanent decline, whereas the former should be (in theory at least) able to be overcome.
Ronaldo is still getting into the positions and getting chances, he's just struggling to put them away. I'd much rather that than him not even getting into the right positions anymore. The latter is much more likely to be permanent decline, whereas the former should be (in theory at least) able to be overcome.
When Goatnaldo wins the Golden Ball/Golden Boot/WC22 then you better ban me from this forum because I will unleash unfathomable hate on all the negative posters in this thread.
He's getting spoonfed and still can't score
It isn't funny when you factor in that he is on £380,000 a week.
Or to put it another way: 2 weeks of Ronaldo's wages is more than Omonia Nicosia have spent on transfers in the last eight seasons - and they were 1:0 up at half-time....
Man United's best hope of getting into the CL next season is probably by winning this competition, they aren't going to do that with Ronaldo in the first 11.
I can understand him losing pace, but how come his touch and his composure in front of goal deteriorated like that?
It takes a lot to move and position yourself as you get older, those things that look so easy for a Rashford suddenly become really difficult and tiring. All part of getting old but he’s trying really hard probably more than many give him credit for.
Since the start of the season he just looks broken.
Amazing career but he's done at this level.
He is done at the top level, yes. Unfortunately for him I'm not sure his ego can handle that.
Bearing in mind that his foremost goal at this point is probably to find a way to put his CL goals record out of reach of Messi, his best bet is to go to PSG next summer assuming Messi goes back to Barcelona. If he does that I'm sure he'll be able to bang in a few goals to top off his career, and his CL record will be safe for a while until Haaland eventually takes it.
Bearing in mind that his foremost goal at this point is probably to find a way to put his CL goals record out of reach of Messi, his best bet is to go to PSG next summer assuming Messi goes back to Barcelona. If he does that I'm sure he'll be able to bang in a few goals to top off his career, and his CL record will be safe for a while until Haaland eventually takes it.
That's truer.
Really quite entertaining to watch how it all unravels for him given the personality he has. All ego, no loyalty. He always was such a cry baby.
Oof, brilliantly said, wow
Dalot and rashford passed up open goalmouth chances to get him a tap in out of pity for him and he even fecked those up.
Anyone else fed up with ex united players like keane and Scholes who played with ronaldo are in denial of him being past it, let him off for being completely unprofessional during the summer and are quick to criticise ten hag when we lose games that he doesn't start/use ronaldo
I thought ETH would have been quite happy with Ronaldo tonight. He’s obviously not justifying his wages, but he did most things right except for finishing his chances. His movement and link up play was much better, and like you I want Rashford left with Martial or Ronaldo up top.
I dont remember many players fall from grace so abruptely, he was good last season. Right now if his name wasnt Cristiano Ronaldo he wouldnt even be on the bench.
Went full Bebe tonight
It was the same with Rooney towards the end. He’d been past it for at least 2 years but ex-pros just refused to talk about the fact he wasn’t the player he used to be, instead saying things like “it’s Wayne Rooney, how can you write him off?”. Well players decline, what he did 5 years ago is irrelevant.
You see that's the problem with stats without context. The woodwork was an absolute sitter?
As for this, you'll be dead. He has 1 from 9 (a penalty) this season. He did nothing tonight to deserve starting over Rashford and Martial (who saved us). Last season he scored 24 goals, with a headstart of scoring 5 or 6 goals in his first month. He looked far sharper. Yet he's going to score 6 more goals than last season where he played nearly every game available despite 1) not starting 2) not playing well at all 3) being 38 by the end of the season?
Because he’s 39 fecking years old.
Why do people need to be reminded of this? There’s no mystery here. He’s over the hill. It happens. Usually much earlier than this. The only mystery is why so many fans seem surprised that a 39 year old is playing like a 39 year old.
He's 37...but point still stands!
This thing has entered the same full blown delusion we had with Ole. Don't let anyone tell you the glazers are the only problem at the club. Imagine still pressuring the manager over this. He also isn't better than Rashford or Martial, it's ok, he's friggin 37.
He'll still play every minute of the World Cup in Qatar and Portugal will thus barely scrape through the group only to go out in the first KO round.
I Portugal wins the WC and Ronaldo wins Ballon D'Or, I will tattoo his face on my chest, then upload the photo holding a note with my nickname.
Incredible the way he's fluffing his lines with easy chances he'd have gobbled up even last year.
It's not strange that a 37 year old is not good enough for United anymore, it's just eye opening how he's gone from being sort of functional as a scorer to not being able to finish his dinner. He's married the falling over, lack of strength in his legs that was there last season with the finishing ability of Bellion. It's like all coordination is gone.
Hopefully he can pull a few goals out of the fire at some point. I do think he will improve his output, he has to.
It's not strange that a 37 year old is not good enough for United anymore, it's just eye opening how he's gone from being sort of functional as a scorer to not being able to finish his dinner. He's married the falling over, lack of strength in his legs that was there last season with the finishing ability of Bellion. It's like all coordination is gone.
Hopefully he can pull a few goals out of the fire at some point. I do think he will improve his output, he has to.
This thread's question is so outdated - it is obvious that he is finished. He was already finished in the last season at Juve.
The more sensible thread title would be to ask if we should let him go for free in the January transfer window? His insane wages is better spent on two decent incoming players.
The more sensible thread title would be to ask if we should let him go for free in the January transfer window? His insane wages is better spent on two decent incoming players.
Should never have signed him. A waste of everybody's time.
37 going 38 years old. Why is this even a thread.
How was Zlatan doing it for Milan in his late 30s/early 40s? Was he a part-time player these days? Super-sub role?