Do I get PES 2008 or FIFA 2008 for my 360?

its a game...on a console...attached to your telly...

how is that even remotely like real football?

Because you can watch it on tv you know. I suggest you keep an eye out for Ford Football Special on sky sports and Match of the day.

Ive never said PES as been like real life football!

but it makes me laugh to hear some of the fifa fans use the terms "football simulation" or "its as close to the real thing"

buy a fecking football

i play pro evo because its a great game to play with your mates, is quick to pick up and play and is addictive. Yes, it would be nice to have a few more editing options but that doesnt detract from my enjoyment of playing it

What you just described was what Fifa used to be. I suggest you pick up Fifa 2002, you'll love it.
 
So basically for the last few years when PES has actually been the most realistic football game in terms of gameplay, PES fans main agruement was that it had better realism in terms of gameplay and now FIFA has it, PES fans are saying if you want real football you should go outside and play it?

Bitterness.

Exactly right.

I could go out and play with a real football, but if I choose to play a game indoors, then what is wrong with wanting it to at least approximate the sport itself?

Suddenly Pro Evo evolves into what FIFA has always been derided for being - an arcade version of football - and the loyal Pro Evo fans claim that this is exactly what they want from their football game.
 
Pro Evo >>>>>> FIFA, that's not even up for debate.

But, what does everyone make of Pro Evo 2008?

Gameplay is brilliant (as always) but refs are ridiculously fussy and the slow-motion replays are a disaster.

Not as good as FIFA 2008.
 
Ive never said PES as been like real life football!

but it makes me laugh to hear some of the fifa fans use the terms "football simulation" or "its as close to the real thing"

buy a fecking football

i play pro evo because its a great game to play with your mates, is quick to pick up and play and is addictive. Yes, it would be nice to have a few more editing options but that doesnt detract from my enjoyment of playing it

Replace fifa with pro evo and that's what I've been saying about Pro Evo for ages now. (And it's always the Pro Evo geeks who say that Pro Evo is more realistic)