This thread is about their whole “project”. Is it interesting/entertaining to the neutral (or rival fans) And that’s where it falls down for me. I just don’t care. Neither positive nor negative emotions. A big bunch of “meh”.
10. Rivera was still there for the star iircI think this is due to the fact that they barely had any success before Mansour bought them.
For example, Berlusconi did something similar with AC Milan, but Milan already won 2 European Cups and 9 Serie A titles before Berlusconi bought them, so they were already considered a big team (even if the situation was very bad when Silvio bought the club).
Yeah, but you could at least appreciate those teams even if they were boring at times, and they had entertaining characters.Yes, Barcelona and Spain left me pretty cold too. There is a sterility to how they smother games.
Then theres the wider club thats shallow as a puddle and ugly underneath.
Bollox...their football is immaculate...ordinary players have become exceptional under pep and as for improvisation...go watch Cancelo or Bernardo or De Bruyne highlight videos for this season so far...or Gundogan and Foden last year...fuking speed of thought and touch is mind boggling...just because they are perfectly drilled doesn’t take away the individual brilliance it requires to execute what they do. I fuking hate the bastards but they are quality.They're robotic, there never seems to be any improvisation or joy to their play.
In terms of head to heads Pep has pretty much sussed you out ever since the UCL tie.We are the only team that can beat them and we will. You know, to keep the interest going. They are like a machine that doesn’t stop and it does take a team like Liverpool at the top of their game to win against City. Ole did it but that was just unexplainable given the gulf in talent between united and City.
Bollox...their football is immaculate...ordinary players have become exceptional under pep and as for improvisation...go watch Cancelo or Bernardo or De Bruyne highlight videos for this season so far...or Gundogan and Foden last year...fuking speed of thought and touch is mind boggling...just because they are perfectly drilled doesn’t take away the individual brilliance it requires to execute what they do. I fuking hate the bastards but they are quality.
I've been saying that for years, for most this moral stuff is just a convenient smokescreen to hide behind. The vast majority are pissed that it's being done outside the status quo.I think this is due to the fact that they barely had any success before Mansour bought them.
For example, Berlusconi did something similar with AC Milan, but Milan already won 2 European Cups and 9 Serie A titles before Berlusconi bought them, so they were already considered a big team (even if the situation was very bad when Silvio bought the club).
I think people would be less mad if Mansour would have bought Arsenal in 2008, instead of City, as Arsenal was clearly more successful than City.
We'll get someone coming in and saying "yeah we'll I'd love us to be robotic and excellent"
The thing is they've achieved an almost robotic boring excellence like when you play fifa career mode and win nearly every game.
The only genuine moment they've had is the agüero winner against QPR.
They've had no real climb to the top.
Moreover their squad is just full of bland personalities who can play football well. At least Toure, Balotelli, Hart and to some extent Aguero had that.
The only real character I see there is Foden.
Team sports coached to the optimum efficency become less enjoyable.
You're mixing domination with efficiency. You think 90s basketball was optimum efficieny? The NBA today is trending towards a snoozefest of the most efficient shot taking. Some sports like the NFL may never reach it due to so many variables but it ultimately reduces individualism and speculation. Freaks like Messi and Jordan are going to be exceptions.That this can be mouthed, and that people can actually nod and agree with it, is mind-blowing. I can't say it's wrong because it's a matter of opinion but still... wow.
I can't think of any other team sport where that pinnacle of excellence is something to be dismissed as less enjoyable or boring.
I've never heard anyone dismiss the '96 Chicago Bulls as boring because they were so dominant. Or the '07 Patriots. Is this uniquely a football thing or an English football fan thing?
That this can be mouthed, and that people can actually nod and agree with it, is mind-blowing. I can't say it's wrong because it's a matter of opinion but still... wow.
I can't think of any other team sport where that pinnacle of excellence is something to be dismissed as less enjoyable or boring.
I've never heard anyone dismiss the '96 Chicago Bulls as boring because they were so dominant. Or the '07 Patriots. Is this uniquely a football thing or an English football fan thing?
They're robotic, there never seems to be any improvisation or joy to their play.
Team sports coached to the optimum efficency become less enjoyable.
They’re just boring. They have so much money. They’re able to remove all jeopardy from every aspect of the game.
Staff not good enough? We’ll buy more. If they’re not good enough, buy even more.
Injuries damage seasons. Let’s just stack our entire squad with talent to such a level that we barely notice when a player is missing.
Training facilities inadequate? Let’s build an entirely new one.
Let’s also buy a dozen other clubs across the globe. We’ll probably need to do some dodgy financial shit with them at some point.
Let’s also pick up the UK’s most identifiable 5 a side centres, just because.
Of course it’s impressive to have done all of this so quickly. They are impressive. Every club would like to have achieved what they have.
The football itself is the most depressingly boring part of it. Though. Keeping the ball forever, only committing to periodic passages of risk, seconds at a time before resetting. Again, I can appreciate the talent and application. Pep is a genius. But it’s really Fcuking boring to see the processions. It’s devoid of all passion as nothing is ever really on the line.
I think the Pep robotic football has made this 'cold, distant' thing geater. When they had Balotelli, Tevez and whatnot they provoked more feelings out of me and others.
You're mixing domination with efficiency. You think 90s basketball was optimum efficieny? The NBA today is trending towards a snoozefest of the most efficient shot taking. Some sports like the NFL may never reach it due to so many variables but it ultimately reduces individualism and speculation. Freaks like Messi and Jordan are going to be exceptions.
The other sports you mention have rules in place to promote parity. Thus this pinnacle of excellence you refer to doesn’t involve depraved dictators and sportswashing.
Yeah, but you could at least appreciate those teams even if they were boring at times, and they had entertaining characters.
City yes I’m concerned about them when we’re in a title race with them, but aside from the kompany moment it’s just boring and doesn’t really annoy me because it’s more a defeated well what do you do?? I can respect their football, but everything about the way they’ve achieved it and the way they’ve killed a lot of competition in this league has killed a lot of my excitement for the game. Despite us being a pretty good side these days. We put together a fantastic team with a great manager and did everything the right way, yet we can’t really have our cycle of dominance because there’s this other side that has unlimited resources. And it’s not like we’re going to be good forever, klopp will leave and it’ll be another sides turn to have a go at usurping them and at that point I’ll probably be glad they’re there to stop them because I’d rather them win it than any other side because it has no meaning.
It genuinely has killed my love of the game, I’m just glad I saw us win a league and CL because i don’t know if we’ll get another team like this, so I’m not taking it for granted.
We are the only team that can beat them and we will. You know, to keep the interest going. They are like a machine that doesn’t stop and it does take a team like Liverpool at the top of their game to win against City. Ole did it but that was just unexplainable given the gulf in talent between united and City.
