District 9

Not gonna watch Inglorious Basterds at all ever in the whole world ever. Looks very very shit.

Me neither.

I have major issues with the fecking title for starters. So someone else has already made a movie with the same name. Do you a) come up with a different title or b) mispell it, as some kind of spastic way of getting around copyright laws and simultaneously claiming your shite flick is some kind of tribute to the original?

Hmmm...
 
Not gonna watch Inglorious Basterds at all ever in the whole world ever. Looks very very shit.

Me neither.

I have major issues with the fecking title for starters. So someone else has already made a movie with the same name. Do you a) come up with a different title or b) mispell it, as some kind of spastic way of getting around copyright laws and simultaneously claiming your shite flick is some kind of tribute to the original?

Hmmm...


I've not seen a trailer for it yet, but had heard it was supposedly going to be one of the better releases this year. Seems i've been listening to the wrong people, nevertheless i'll go and watch it and see for myself.

I've seen enough shit at the cinema this year so one more won't do any harm!
 
Seeing as we're being pro and using spoiler tags (and not quotes), I'll go in the same order you did.

  • When he was on the surgery table (after they made him kill the random alien in the weapons test) the discussion between the head honchos was on how they wanted to harvest tissue from every part of him, and this would involve killing him. Shit, they were about to take his heart out before he broke the restraints, and while I'm no doctor generally that's fatal.
  • I'm not doubting the need for the rockets as much as that they'd essentially be allowed to come here and essentially be homeless and like in a detention centre - I generally find it quite implausible that they'd be forgotten about by the hundreds of international rights and ethics groups in existence (today and in the 80s when they landed) and visibly down trodden by mercenary forces without anyone making a fuss. We do after all have a planetary reputation to uphold (now, anyway). I'm alluding not to the actual need to have rockets and mercenaries with bright white weapons so much as the very public nature in which they went about being brutal towards the aliens.
  • Prawn, fair enough what you said. My only issue really is that its introduction builds it up to be something that it really isn't.
  • The whole storming the top secret underground laboratory guarded heavily by pissed off mercenaries was the turning point of the movie for me - as you've said an alien scientist and someone who two days prior was a rubber johnnied desk jockey storming the joint just felt wrong. In a similar vain, I wasn't convinced by 'Christopher' coming to his sudden realisation because he saw a dissected alien corpse, given that he'd been living in the middle of a slum for 20 years, and had seen his friend shot in the face a day prior to that. It felt like a contrived plot point to be honest - the moment of realisation didn't need to have been attained through storming the complex.
  • Regarding letting them go, the governments had given up on the aliens (it said so in the opening montage) prior to handing them over to the MNU. Ostensibly at the point where the governments stopped saying "give us your lazros", but before they dumped them with Unethical Multinational Corporation #4857 it might have been good to say "hey we can go if you want"

Man I'm getting into this.

And this time I'll get the order right!

  • They had to harvest him then as if they were to wait any longer he'd become a Prawn, and thus his tissue would be useless. They needed his organs/tissue whilst he was transforming, and thus not fully human nor fully Prawn. They explained as much man, you must've missed that part. And if he was to die, then so be it. That was the nature of the business, and shows how eagre they were to discover the secrets in the hopes to be able to utilise the alien Weaponry.

  • There were Human/Alien Rights activists outside the detention centre. There were obviously campaigns (though maybe better left unsaid, but you'd surely be right in assuming there was - as supported by the activists at the entrance of District 9) and I'm sure the people being interviewed at the start alluded to the fact there were many rights violations being commited, and activists being in uproar.

    As for the downtrodding - people were getting fed up with the Aliens and their feral ways. Wikus and the pencil-pushers of MNU were at pains to keep the Mercenaries at bay when handling the Prawns. There was several examples of them trying to stop the MNU Merc's heavy-handed tactics when dealing with the Prawns, though when it got too dangerous they let it slide. You'd think when it came down to it Human's rights took precidence, which is what happened.

    Personally I thought the relationship between the Humans and the Aliens (in terms of social standing, rights and all that) was spot on. I think that if something as unlikely as that (aliens seeking refuge) was to happen, in those exact same circumstances, it would be played out like it was in the movie. The people would have to show that they were concerned for their welfare, provide help/shelter and the like, whilst regarding them with a certain level of disdain and mistrust. After all they are aliens, and feral ones at that.

    I'd think if they had their leaders it would've been totally different, but for whatever reason, they didn't.

    I think it was also established rather quickly that the Humans were the dominant race, I mean the simple fact they were refugee's would be reason enough for the Humans to take a more dominant stance towards their relationship with the Prawns. They were in on OUR world, WE were doing THEM a favor, etc.

  • As for Christopher coming to the realisation whilst they were in the Headquaters - the aliens were obviously intentionally kept ignorant. They were un-intelligent (in Human respects) creatures, being the working class of their species, so they really wouldn't have had any concept of rights and the like. Only Christopher had any real inclination about rights as he was obvioulsy one of the original leaders from their Mothership.

    In fact he didn't come to that kind of realisation then, he obviously wanted to rescue his people which was why he was brewing that fluid. He even said he'd been trying for 20 years - the whole time they'd been stuck on Earth. He wanted to take them home, he didn't like the conditions but there was nothing he could do until the fluid was made/they got back to the mothership.

    Why I think he didn't take the mantle of 'Leader' in the slums, at least as far as relations with Humans went, was that there was so much money to be made in harvesting their technologies (as explained in the movie) and so many interested parties vying for their piece. I sincerely doubt they'd just let them leave like that, hell the MNU certainly didn't want them too, and it seemed they were the ones in charge with Human-Alien relations. I feel he felt he was forced to do everything in secret lest the MNU crack down on them some more.
 
I've not seen a trailer for it yet, but had heard it was supposedly going to be one of the better releases this year. Seems i've been listening to the wrong people, nevertheless i'll go and watch it and see for myself.

I've seen enough shit at the cinema this year so one more won't do any harm!

there's loads of stuff on wikipedia about the movie... Tarantino also sought to present the film as a spaghetti-western set in Nazi-occupied France. He explained his intent, "I'm going to find a place that actually resembles, in one way or another, the Spanish locales they had in spaghetti westerns — a no man's land. :rolleyes: dont know about this.

One of the issues is also Brad Pitt, I cant stand him and I dont think I wanna look at his cool face and listen to his cool talk for two and a half hours.
 
there's loads of stuff on wikipedia about the movie... Tarantino also sought to present the film as a spaghetti-western set in Nazi-occupied France. He explained his intent, "I'm going to find a place that actually resembles, in one way or another, the Spanish locales they had in spaghetti westerns — a no man's land. :rolleyes: dont know about this.

One of the issues is also Brad Pitt, I cant stand him and I dont think I wanna look at his cool face and listen to his cool talk for two and a half hours.

Brad Pitt would be my main reason for not seeing this film, I can't stand him. I think the only reasons i'm watching it are because it's directed by Tarantino and it's 'free'. If I didn't have a cinema card then I wouldn't watch it.

Scarface is teh big one for me this month, i've been looking forward to seeing that at the cinema for ages now!
 
Didn't they drop the basterds part from the title? I thought it was just called Inglorious now?
Looking forward to seeing District 9. Theres a few others coming out that look good, THe Road could be good (the book is excellent), Where the wild things are, Avatar is out in December.
 
Transformers I'll give you, in that I love that movie for personal reasons, but what was wrong with Revenge of the Sith? Where were the "plot holes" and "random stupidity"?

Revenge of the Sith was full of shit acting. As for random stupidity, did you honestly believe Anakin's fall to the dark side? The tipping point of it is the Emperor telling Anakin "I told you the Jedi were traitors!". What about Padme dying? "She has lost her will to live." is the reason given.

My biggest gripe with it remains the absolutely wooden acting.

I'm a big fan of Star Wars(I've read almost all the novels), and I quite like Revenge of the Sith purely because it's Star Wars, but it's hardly top 10 material.
 
Are you going to mention that list in every thread I post in?

I might try...it's an hilarious list

It almost makes everything you ever say null and void

I'm also pretty sure that everything that happens in any Star Wars can be plausibly filed under 'Random Stupidity'...I mean, The Force?...come on?
 
but your bashing a science fiction film?

I loved the bit where Alec Guiness just disappears and says he'll become more powerful...but then doesn't...that made sense
 
If Sharky had just admitted that he prefers his sci fi movies a bit more over the top, fx heavy and corny (which is his perogative) then he shouldn't get any stick over "the list" but the double standards can't be ignored when he criticises this movie for being full of plot-holes and random shit happening.
 
Quality movie (reverting back to District 9). Worth going to the cinema for. Thanks for the recommendations, guys.

It was pretty good, I have to say I was a bit underwhlemed but maybe that was because my expectations were too high. 7
 
Don't know how you could only give it a 7 man.

You upped my expectations too much. It was solid yet unspectacular for the most part, but was built upon a brilliant idea. Maybe 7 was low but I just wanted more.
 
How anyone could want to watch Inglourious Bastids or whatever it's called is beyond me. Firstly, it's evidently Tarantino trying to be clever again and that man is one of the most awful people in the universe. I would stomp on his face until I could use it for writing paper. From Dusk Til Dawn was great largely because he died horribly. Anyway, secondly the trailer presumably contains the best bits and it's utter, utter shit so how the actual film could be any better is unfathomable. To summarize, I would gladly do a shit on Tarantino's face after a night out on Guiness. And Reservoir Dogs is shite.
 
He has made some great films. Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction for example, some OK films like Jackie Brown and Kill Bill and some stinkers like that last car one whatever it was called.

This one seems to be getting more good than bad reviews so I'm prepared to give it a go.
 
He has made some great films. Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction for example, some OK films like Jackie Brown and Kill Bill and some stinkers like that last car one whatever it was called.

This one seems to be getting more good than bad reviews so I'm prepared to give it a go.

I don't really like Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction. I like one or two of his films though. I enjoyed Jackie Brown and From Dusk Til Dawn. And that really stupid one with the stripper with a gun for a leg tickled me but by and large I hate him and his films.
 
I cant fecking stand the cnut. And you're bang on about the trailer. Rarely has a trailer for a movie I might conceivably enjoy made me want to watch it less.

It has been getting some good reviews though. Apparently the opening scene is fantastic but it's downhill from there. I'll probably end up renting it on DVD.
 
Look like South Africans longing to re-establish apartheid again.

Funny you should mention that. Here's the short film that the movie is based on.



Be interested to hear from someone who's seen it if the parallels with apartheid are as obvious in the final film?

Or had they been hollywood'ed out of it in favour of lots of whizz-bang special effects?
 
Nah there were definitely some racial sub-text/parrallels in the movie Pogue, at least that was the feeling I got.

When is it out over your way? I'm surprised a movie was released down here before it was over in Britian.
 
Cracking film. Was worried my expectations would be too high, was not disappointed. As for the finale... Just what I wanted.
 
A brilliant idea that came up a marginally short in my opinion but jesus, the idea for this film is epic... I didn't read nay reviews or any spoilers but the standard this film set for Fictional documentary is going to be hard to beat.
 
Nah there were definitely some racial sub-text/parrallels in the movie Pogue, at least that was the feeling I got.

When is it out over your way? I'm surprised a movie was released down here before it was over in Britian.

I remember while watching there were several times I wanted to jump up out of my seat, point to screen, and scream "THAT'S RACIST!"
 
A brilliant idea that came up a marginally short in my opinion but jesus, the idea for this film is epic... I didn't read nay reviews or any spoilers but the standard this film set for Fictional documentary is going to be hard to beat.
That's a good description actually.

So very close to being a true masterpiece, but it just comes up that little bit short. Still a great movie (probably the best I've seen since Dark Knight), but not quite the epic that it came close to being.
 
Just watched it...blown away. how anyone can give this below a 9 (or possibly an 8.5) I've no idea

It's a wonderful idea, brilliantly concieved, wonderfully acted, actually quite funny, and (I thought) terribly moving in places, especially towards the end....it's social commentary is also very clear and well done (for those still wondering if it's a racially motivated film..see District Six, Cape Town - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) ..it pisses on Star Wars or any other fluffy Alien shite. This is a proper film with proper character development, proper themes and emotional involvement

.In fact I got so involved with it....

That I was doing 'gun hands' in the final scene when Wikus is holding off the marines as Christopher tries to make it to the mothership...and punched the air when he did (which is terribly sad I know)

Glorious film. 9 from me
 
In fact I got so involved with it....

That I was doing 'gun hands' in the final scene when Wikus is holding off the marines as Christopher tries to make it to the mothership...and punched the air when he did (which is terribly sad I know)

Glorious film. 9 from me

I know what you mean though, it's an engaging scene...
 
I know what you mean though, it's an engaging scene...

I've read a few reviews that said the ending was OTT and unsatisfactory but I thought it was just right...

It needed that little bit of action, it's also the first time you really start rooting for Wickes, who up to that point has been a bit of a prat (incidentally, I've just read that his surname (van der merwe) is a commonly ridiculed one in the SA black community, used in place of the 'irish' jokes we make here to imply stupidity in the Afrikaans..(an englishman, an scotsman and a Van der merwe walk into a bar type of thing)

there are a lot of little cultural things in it I'm reading up on now...I'm becoming slightly obsessed with it to be honest!
 
Do NOT give in Pogue. Go and see this without reading any of this shite! You know it's best.

Anyway, when the hell is it coming out over there?

Just watched it...blown away. how anyone can give this below a 9 (or possibly an 8.5) I've no idea

It's a wonderful idea, brilliantly concieved, wonderfully acted, actually quite funny, and (I thought) terribly moving in places, especially towards the end....it's social commentary is also very clear and well done (for those still wondering if it's a racially motivated film..see District Six, Cape Town - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) ..it pisses on Star Wars or any other fluffy Alien shite. This is a proper film with proper character development, proper themes and emotional involvement

.In fact I got so involved with it....

That I was doing 'gun hands' in the final scene when Wikus is holding off the marines as Christopher tries to make it to the mothership...and punched the air when he did (which is terribly sad I know)

Glorious film. 9 from me

What you said.

And you can't getting into it that much, can ya? My hands were on my head in dispair when Wickus knocked out Christopher and was saying 'feck yeaaah' to myself when he whipped out that lightning-gun... Just so many 'feck YEAH' moments.
 
I've read a few reviews that said the ending was OTT and unsatisfactory but I thought it was just right...

It needed that little bit of action, it's also the first time you really start rooting for Wickes, who up to that point has been a bit of a prat (incidentally, I've just read that his surname (van der merwe) is a commonly ridiculed one in the SA black community, used in place of the 'irish' jokes we make here to imply stupidity in the Afrikaans..(an englishman, an scotsman and a Van der merwe walk into a bar type of thing)

there are a lot of little cultural things in it I'm reading up on now...I'm becoming slightly obsessed with it to be honest!

I agree too.

After watching the film I thought the action scenes felt ever-so slightly out of place. But then again that was simply because the first half of the movie was just masterfully done, I mean every single person in the cinema were on the edge of their seats.

Good to see you picked up on the whole 'District' thing. I went to see this with two South African mates and they told me about it afterwards, which just made the movie seem that much better (for want of a better, lulz, word). Incidentally one of my other best mates, who's South African too, is a van der merwe.
 
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