May have said it on the podcast too
Diogo Dalot | Done Deal | Speaks better English than Valencia
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Some thought our defence was sorted for the next decade with Rafael - Smalling - Jones - Fabio
He gathered all of that from 12 1st team games huh??? from Rashfords 1st 12 matches Broccoli must've thought he was going to be the best forward since RVN. That's an absurd expectation from someone who has barely broken into a first team. Best since Irwin, Evra comparisons, the guy has barely kicked a ball. What about Nevs?
Like Castles would know this in any kind of way. Don’t let a liar by trade fool you.
He played about 20 times for Porto B in the 2nd division last season, and has appeared over 50 times for every Portugal youth age group from u15s all the way up to u21s, including playing well at the u17 Euros and u20 World Cup. There's no need to be so dismissive.
At 19 years old, do we think he'll be a back up / rotation option to Valencia? Would be unusual for Mourinho to put a player that young straight into the first choice XI right?
Do you know how many 1st team games Ronaldo played before he joined us?
I didn't need more than few first games of Modric and Kovacic when I first saw them to know they are exceptional talents. Whether Dalot will realise that potential is an entirely different matter. It is not about expectations also, it is about the talent he has at this point in time (there wouldn't be so much interest from other big clubs otherwise). We just need to be patient.
Ronaldo had a full season under his belt. I also have doubts over your modric and kovacic claims as hindsight is a wonderful thing. If you could spot a players exceptional talent in a few games, I ask that you become chief scout at Man Utd.
See what you did there. Nice.
I wonder if perhaps if he wants Dalot to become a RW with us that maybe he sees TFM as an ivanovic type RB in the future for us? Would be interesting of mou and feel like he might like that. A RW who is defensively aware in dalot, with TFM behind him who is defensively strong as well. Just thinking about a reason why that might be even the slightest rumor.
Not denying any of that, I guess my point was simply that making such statements is a tad unfounded, as a lot can change in football.
Very rare is it for us to sign a player who provides us with 10+ years service.
I'm excited about this transfer as the next man, but I think we have to be realistic and manage our expectations.
I am from Croatia, watched Modric and Kovacic since they were 16 (Modric even before since he is from my hometown), so when they had first few senior appearances and looked impressive you really didn't have to be a genius to say they were great talents.
Wouldn't make such claims for players I didn't watch in other countries and for youth levels.
Edit: as for Ronaldo, he had only 25 appearances. That's still very small number before joining a club like United.
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Know absolutely nothing about this lad. Good cross on him in his youtube compilation, physically matured for a 19 year old. Interesting signing.
Dalot
Fred
SMS
Alderweireld/Lenglet
Douglas Costa
A. Sandro
Mandzukic
Out
Blind
Jones
Fellaini
Carrick(retirement)
Darmian
Would be a great summer.... we’re obviously not signing 7 players though
Fred
SMS
Alderweireld/Lenglet
Douglas Costa
A. Sandro
Mandzukic
Out
Blind
Jones
Fellaini
Carrick(retirement)
Darmian
Would be a great summer.... we’re obviously not signing 7 players though
I love this get it done early shit from Jose. Doesn't waste too much time bargain hunting or waiting to see how the market pans out.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush?!
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush?!
Dalot
Fred
Lenglet
A. Sandro
Mandzukic
Out
Blind
Jones
Fellaini
Carrick(retirement)
Darmian
Would be a great summer.... we’re obviously not signing 7 players though
That's probably more likely unless Pogba and Martial leave as we would then go for players such as SMS and D Costa. Until then I think we'll go for a CB and LB aswell as a backup striker. See how it pans out.
Sorry if this has been asked before but why has he not played more than 8 competitive games for Porto?
My guess as well. Wasn’t expecting us to go for another striker but it makes sense considering how we struggled without Lukaku. I’m guessing Alderweireld, LB and probably somebody like Mandzukic to come in and that will be it. We really need a natural RW though in my opinion.
Is Dalot enough, or do we need more cover on our widebacks?
I agree. I'm prepared for him to become the best right back in the world and leave in his mid twenties to Madrid.
So they were half right then, unfortunately.
Any Portugal league watchers care to give a detailed summary of his playing style, attributes and qualities etc..
He's only 19 and just breaking through. Jose must right him highly, to be prepared to pay almost £20 million at this stage.
cause he's 19? And in a position it's pretty tough to break through.
Fast, strong, quite tall, can play with both feet which means he can play on both sides and he's very good technically. He's a good crosser and has an habit of scoring more goals than your average fullback. He's pretty complete and he clearly stood out on all of those things playing in youth tournaments. He did well when playing for Porto too but obviously we'll have to see how it translates to a much higher level of competition.
For the price mentioned it's 100% a great signing and worst case scenario you'll still be able to get that money back. My doubts are wether he'll be able to ever fulfill his potential of becoming one of the best fullbacks in the world. In my opinion he's made the wrong move for that to happen.
Actually got a good feeling about this signing, based on absolutely nothing at all.
He'll probably start out well, look better than Valencia and everyone will be all excited, then he'll make one defensive mistake and Valencia will be back playing every week for the rest of the season.
He'll probably start out well, look better than Valencia and everyone will be all excited, then he'll make one defensive mistake and Valencia will be back playing every week for the rest of the season.
You’ve just described 3-4 players who have since disappeared so where is the value?
I'm looking forward to this guy. I hope he looks pretty solid from the off. Would be great for us and him.
At least he's signing with a fellow Portuguese speaker in Fred and playing for a Portuguese manager. It'll make the transition much easier for him and allow him to settle quickly. 
If you're good enough you're old enough. Start him I say.
Just out of interest like, but what are central-defenders called in your World ? Insidebacks ?
@Peyroteo @broccoli You already said everything about Dalot, already mentioned here he is the best prospect born in 99, ahead of João Félix, Leão for example.
But I have the same feeling as Peyroteo, he should have stayed 1 more year at least with Porto to replace Ricardo Pereira.
Clearly there are some posters who still think he was scouted for the so called 8 games for Porto first team, he wasn't.
https://footballtalentscout.net/2016/09/04/diogo-dalot/
https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/01/0...alot-juventus-napoli-scout-portuguese-starlet
https://www.mcfcwatch.com/2017/06/0...an-united-barcelona-chelsea-at-u20-world-cup/
If he will develop well or not I don't know, but better take a risk like this for someone who clearly has been scouted for what he can be not what he is now.
Last time I will say anything about this, why am I supporting a kid who played for Porto I don't know
But I keep the same opinion, he is better than Cancelo or Semedo with the same age, reason why Mourinho went for him, now if he will deliver in the future the same performances like Paulo Ferreira in the past for Porto or Chelsea 2/3 first seasons nobody here knows, reason why there are scouts around the world.
End of Dalot discussion for me, lets see now if he has the mentality to be a top player or if he will be only a prospect.
But I have the same feeling as Peyroteo, he should have stayed 1 more year at least with Porto to replace Ricardo Pereira.
Clearly there are some posters who still think he was scouted for the so called 8 games for Porto first team, he wasn't.
https://footballtalentscout.net/2016/09/04/diogo-dalot/
https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/01/0...alot-juventus-napoli-scout-portuguese-starlet
https://www.mcfcwatch.com/2017/06/0...an-united-barcelona-chelsea-at-u20-world-cup/
If he will develop well or not I don't know, but better take a risk like this for someone who clearly has been scouted for what he can be not what he is now.
Last time I will say anything about this, why am I supporting a kid who played for Porto I don't know
But I keep the same opinion, he is better than Cancelo or Semedo with the same age, reason why Mourinho went for him, now if he will deliver in the future the same performances like Paulo Ferreira in the past for Porto or Chelsea 2/3 first seasons nobody here knows, reason why there are scouts around the world.
End of Dalot discussion for me, lets see now if he has the mentality to be a top player or if he will be only a prospect.
@Peyroteo @broccoli You already said everything about Dalot, already mentioned here he is the best prospect born in 99, ahead of João Félix, Leão for example.
But I have the same feeling as Peyroteo, he should have stayed 1 more year at least with Porto to replace Ricardo Pereira.
Clearly there are some posters who still think he was scouted for the so called 8 games for Porto first team, he wasn't.
https://footballtalentscout.net/2016/09/04/diogo-dalot/
https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/01/0...alot-juventus-napoli-scout-portuguese-starlet
https://www.mcfcwatch.com/2017/06/0...an-united-barcelona-chelsea-at-u20-world-cup/
If he will develop well or not I don't know, but better take a risk like this for someone who clearly has been scouted for what he can be not what he is now.
Last time I will say anything about this, why am I supporting a kid who played for Porto I don't know
But I keep the same opinion, he is better than Cancelo or Semedo with the same age, reason why Mourinho went for him, now if he will deliver in the future the same performances like Paulo Ferreira in the past for Porto or Chelsea 2/3 first seasons nobody here knows, reason why there are scouts around the world.
End of Dalot discussion for me, lets see now if he has the mentality to be a top player or if he will be only a prospect.
Nice post. We have bought potential but he certainly seems to have a good chance of making it, could be a very astute signing.
@Peyroteo @broccoli You already said everything about Dalot, already mentioned here he is the best prospect born in 99, ahead of João Félix, Leão for example.
But I have the same feeling as Peyroteo, he should have stayed 1 more year at least with Porto to replace Ricardo Pereira.
Clearly there are some posters who still think he was scouted for the so called 8 games for Porto first team, he wasn't.
https://footballtalentscout.net/2016/09/04/diogo-dalot/
https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/01/0...alot-juventus-napoli-scout-portuguese-starlet
https://www.mcfcwatch.com/2017/06/0...an-united-barcelona-chelsea-at-u20-world-cup/
If he will develop well or not I don't know, but better take a risk like this for someone who clearly has been scouted for what he can be not what he is now.
Last time I will say anything about this, why am I supporting a kid who played for Porto I don't know
But I keep the same opinion, he is better than Cancelo or Semedo with the same age, reason why Mourinho went for him, now if he will deliver in the future the same performances like Paulo Ferreira in the past for Porto or Chelsea 2/3 first seasons nobody here knows, reason why there are scouts around the world.
End of Dalot discussion for me, lets see now if he has the mentality to be a top player or if he will be only a prospect.
Is he better than Semedo going forward ?
Was a little bit drunk, but yeah. Middledefenders actually.
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