criticalanalysis
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I think, I understand what you mean, but for me, the team form context isn't a factor. I'd agree, that for example Liverpools fullbacks looked great in terms of chance creation over the years mostly, because Klopp used them as the main chance creation tools. So yes, certain team setups help players to shine more in specific aspects but team setup isn't team form. If we consider that, you will never be able to compare players whatsoever. And while admitting that some stats may be more affected by it than others, to make it a general take doesn't seem right to me.
If we look at player A at in form ManCity, a passing heavy team, who is attempting 150 passes and is successful with 140 then why wouldn't that be comparable to a team like us for example with player B who is attempting only 100 and succeds with 75. Or a player who is attempting 10 tackles a game but only wins 2 with a player who attempts only 3 and wins all of them. As I said, team setup will influence stuff like that, but form shouldn't. That being said such player comparisons will always be faulty of course and there is no perfect way to do it.
I will have a look at the videos now.
Oh and yes: I agree with your assessment of him having a good season so far, playing his best football for us since ever and looking promising. Would never have argued with that from the start. I only argue with people picturing him as great or exceptional. Which might be true compared to himself but not compared to rival players.
I think we're mostly on the same page but as you've admitted already, you're just a weary of giving praise or rating a performance, which is fine on its own. However, you are also perhaps underrating what the players have produced on the pitch and I think it's where a few take issue with. You've said Malacia was dire and referred to Dalot as being the McTominay of RBs (!) by basically playing within himself but overall in an almost net negative manner. The truth is that both fullbacks have played big parts in our build up play etc and according to ETH's instructions/tactics. They are not playing at a top tier level but imo definitely above average and hopefully on a clear progression to getting very good. In the context of where Utd is as a team, I can understand why some rate his performances as 'great' from what he's done so far. For me, Malacia/Dalot's roles and performances are more closer to Walker (defensively)/Zinchenko (play making) at City tactically than the other fullbacks mentioned.
Anyways, we're just dissecting fine details atm. It's such a short body of work as I've said before, only 4-5 games so let's see how this goes.