He makes de Gea seem world class with the ball at his feet.
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Just as a matter of curiosity, How many pens did De Gea save during last year's Europa finals?
a typical massive overrated local player.
Dave made up for his 40 odd haul that’d all sailed past him previously later on. Same result we didn’t win. Hendo only got near 1, they were all really well taken and the ref was feckin anal about them being on their lines.
I don’t trust him to do his main job, which is keeping the ball out of the net.
Some of us are not Henderson fan boys - some of us are just De gea haters who cant stand his one ability in goal.
He was waiting for a nervous player to hesitate and read their shot but only happened once, which he failed to save despite touching it. He will obviously be disappointed with that. His career stats are 6 saves from 16 faced in senior football (including the shootout last night) which is a save percentage of 38% which still very high, as you can see from the article below.
https://www.premierleague.com/news/648792
A lot of his penalties were faced at a lower level. In the PL he's faced 2, saved 1 and conceded 1 so it's a limited data set at the highest level.
Henderson is no where near as good as De Gea, in any department.
He will be off this summer without doubt to a mid table team.
He will be off this summer without doubt to a mid table team.
I was really disappointed with his part in their 'goal'.
Schoolboy stuff to completely stop and simply raise an arm.
Looks very much like another player we've kept hold of for too long, both from the player and club's perspective.
Schoolboy stuff to completely stop and simply raise an arm.
Looks very much like another player we've kept hold of for too long, both from the player and club's perspective.
I’m not going to have ago at the player. He isn’t getting games so isn’t sharp. Should have even sold whilst his stock was high if we knew De Gea would stay number one. Now we have a keeper who has limited minutes, off the back of a terrible penalty shoot out display. Whilst at Sheffield United I believe he had one of the best penalty saving records that season?
For me he did well on his loan but I do wonder whether its the lack of genuine quality English goalkeepers at the moment and him being ahome grown player that has got him all the hype.
He is a decent goalkeeper and a very good number two for us. But if he is aggireved at being a number two and unhappy at that situation....then we should just sell him. He was competition for the mistake laden DeGea of recent times, but he isnt competition for the in form DeGea at all.
I dont understand people slating DeGea on here this season. He might not be the modern passing keeper people crave like they seem to crave attacking full backs regardless of whether they can defend....but he has been our most consistent player bar the two seasons for the last decade probably and kept us in games time and time again
He is a decent goalkeeper and a very good number two for us. But if he is aggireved at being a number two and unhappy at that situation....then we should just sell him. He was competition for the mistake laden DeGea of recent times, but he isnt competition for the in form DeGea at all.
I dont understand people slating DeGea on here this season. He might not be the modern passing keeper people crave like they seem to crave attacking full backs regardless of whether they can defend....but he has been our most consistent player bar the two seasons for the last decade probably and kept us in games time and time again
Maybe not the best shoot stopper but by far the best keeper at the club in my opinion. DDG is perfect for Utd at the moment as he has been for a while. He’s far too much in the game and gets ‘his eye in’ cause the amount of shots people have against us. He’s absolutely brilliant at keeping them out which catches the eye. I like my keepers a bit different, they need to be brave, commanding, good at corners and set pieces, vocal and good at distribution including coming out the box. Those are the fundamentals of goalkeepers all of which DDG is poor at and Henderson is the polar opposite. Henderson is a very good shot stopper too….
Yesterday’s performance confirmed everything we already knew. Henderson isn’t good enough and he is absolutely useless at trying to save penalties.
You know DDG record at saving penalties is shocking don’t you? Did you forget the saves he made yesterday including the one that kept us in the game? What else did he confirm for you?
That he is not a sweeper keeper? That decision to come out for their goal was appalling: didnt commit and ended up leaving the goal completely open.
He’s our best sweeper keeper and his distribution is better than DDG, this isn’t new Info. You must be watching a different game to me if you think that goal was down to a goalkeeping error.
I have never seen this fantasy version of Henderson you’re talking about. I only see the one who looks like a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. He looks so nervous he makes me nervous just watching him.
Oh he exist, no fantasy despite your nervous condition.
6 months ago, DDG didn't save shit either and missed the decisive kick. Amazingly Ole was bashed on here for not replacing him for the spot kicks with Henderson. Yet, I'd have to check but I'd say a lot of the people in here slating Henderson were doing that too.
I like Henderson, he offers more than DDG his passing is better and his all round game is better. But DDG adds to his youtube clips every week and that's all people seem to care about.
He was poor for the goal, and for the pens it looks to me like he's decided which way he's gooing early and when it goes the other way he just drops. Pretty much every goalkeeper who picks the wrong side does that.
Either way, if Henderson isn't going to replace DDG, someone else will have to.
People are being overly harsh criticising him for yesterday and in general. He's a perfectly good keeper. And last season when De Gea wasn't playing particularly well being a perfectly good keeper was enough to present him as at least arguably the best keeper for us going forward.
But this season De Gea is on course to save approx. 17 goals above average through sheer shot-stopping form. Even taking De Gea's other weaknesses into account, Henderson can't compete with that. So it is what it is.
De Gea's form won't last and once it dimishes we'll once again need to consider more rounded keepers. But for now Henderson is done as even a speculative #1 here. And really we should use the window provided by De Gea's resurgence in form to identify a better long term replacement for him anyway.
But this season De Gea is on course to save approx. 17 goals above average through sheer shot-stopping form. Even taking De Gea's other weaknesses into account, Henderson can't compete with that. So it is what it is.
De Gea's form won't last and once it dimishes we'll once again need to consider more rounded keepers. But for now Henderson is done as even a speculative #1 here. And really we should use the window provided by De Gea's resurgence in form to identify a better long term replacement for him anyway.
Not sure why you can "hate" one of our best players. That "one ability" made him one of the best goalkeeper in the world and he is still one of the best in PL.
He deserve to be No. 1 on merit. His overall ability is better than Henderson. Many of the saves from him this season was simply world class.
Boro’s pens were good, and most of them likely not saved by any keeper, but it was the pathetic attempts to even a) work out where the ball was going and b) try to bloody save them.
Woeful effort and puts into perspective the absolute hell the fans give De Gea and Ole after the EL final shootout.
Woeful effort and puts into perspective the absolute hell the fans give De Gea and Ole after the EL final shootout.
Had to go back and get some of stuff said about DDG and the pens affer the Europa League final.
Most of the Boro penalties were very well hit and pretty much unsaveable in that wet even if he did guess right.
Just for reference Peter Schemeichel only ever saved 1 penalty for Man Utd.
Can you imagine what posters would be saying here if De Gea did what Henderson was doing during that penalty shootout?
Just weakly flopping down to his knee before the ball was kicked
What a save it was. Remember it to this day.
Feck me how long did this post take you?!
Needs to grow about six inch, he's muck.
Sell to Newcastle in the summer if they are daft enough.
Sell to Newcastle in the summer if they are daft enough.
Probably because the opposition never got into our penalty box often to get them!
Those days seem a lifetime ago. I feel so privileged to have lived me young adult life through that era. Thank you god!
I only scrolled through half the post match thread for that game. 10 or 15 mins, probably much more like that in there.
Checked to see if you had criticised De Gea at the time but tbf:
Full marks for consistency.
Perfectly ordinary shots placed in top corners with power, yes
I have been critical of him plenty. Genuinely don't see why people are overly critical of goalkeepers penalty saving. Last night, much like the Europa league final. Should never have gone that far.
Actually found this one of Big Pete saving another one in a shootout from Frank Sinclair, then saving the rebound and offering him a third attempt. 97 charity shield it was.
He should have saved the 2nd penalty, went under him. The other pens were excellent and all in the corners. Not much a keeper can do with those.
His performance in the full game was fine, nothing special, he didn't really have anything to do for the most part and when called upon did it fine. His distribution was decent.
His performance in the full game was fine, nothing special, he didn't really have anything to do for the most part and when called upon did it fine. His distribution was decent.
To be fair, De Gea did that himself a few times but that’s neither here nor there. At least we know Henderson isn’t the one and can move him on as he wishes.
Bergkamp. What a save and what a time to do it.
Do you think he did well to come up and nullify the attack? He caught himself in no mans land, so yes I do put part of the blame for him making no decision and leave an open goal.
You either come out and make yourself big, or you stick to your line and give yourself a chance against either a shot or a cross to the other side. He did neither.
Are you Henderson’s agent or something?!
Think yesterday proved Henderson is equally shit at saving pens as De Gea.
Love watching a cocky keeper end up just falling to his knees every time instead of even diving the wrong way.
Love watching a cocky keeper end up just falling to his knees every time instead of even diving the wrong way.
What's gets me is what they are doing in training.
Surely if in every training session they just flop to one side before the ball is kicked they would be called out for it.
This can't be what they are told to do is it?
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