He had two shaky moments early on (the terrible positioning for the offside goal and trying to come for the high ball that drifted out but completely missing it) but grew into it after that.
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He’s not timid. Go review his season at sheff Utd, just needs to grow into the role, he’s very young for a top club keeper.
I was commenting on this game. I know he's very young for a Gk, especially for top club. I wish he had time to learn from Romero, as the later has that commanding aura.
He’ll grow into this role, I think he’s made for it.
Yeah I agree. I've mentioned before but he doesn't seem very composed compared to De Gea. I'm not sure what to make of the free-kick save, looked fantastic but if it had gone in, would he be at fault?
He's made a good start to his United career regardless, and be interesting to see how he does for rest of season.
It was a decent save, but he had to make it really.
Were they?
I've been about 2 feet from Dean Henderson, he's about as far from timid as you get
the danger with him is going the OTHER way and getting a bit too cocky, honestly. He's shouty for a young keeper.Sus positioning for that offside goal but he had a difficult game to deal with today and he's come through it. Great kick to set up our goal as well!
Carries on his record of battering expected XG versus actual goals as well, did West Ham have a 2.something XG today? They were a tiny bit unlucky to be fair.
DDG wouldn't have left his box in the first place so wouldn't have put himself in the position to make that pass.
He should also get some credit for the Haller shambles, I'm sure dean got a touch on it which forced Haller wide before he slipped.
DDG seldom leaves his 6 yard box let alone 18 yard box, one of my main criticisms of him.
I would also agree however with some posters on here who felt Dean looked a bit shaky early on, thought he did as well but some nerves can be excused on his first or maybe second league start for us.
Said it before, i was commenting for this game only. He might be a mouthful beast with Sheffield but I didn't watch him closely there.I've been about 2 feet from Dean Henderson, he's about as far from timid as you get
Sus positioning for that offside goal but he had a difficult game to deal with today and he's come through it. Great kick to set up our goal as well!
I'm not saying he had a bad game, far from it. But I did think he looked quite nervy at times yesterday which isn't something I've seen from him before. Hopefully just a temporary thing as we need that confidence and composure in order to have a solid defence.
Was quite good. Not quite a cert to displace De Gea. But I like what he brings to the table.
One of them is the best paid keeper in the world and in his prime years. The other is playing his second season in the PL and hasn't gotten much gametime yet this season.
Still, the fact the he even went out for that one meant the west ham player couldn't head it in towards goal. It was bad that he missed the ball, but it still showed why a goalkeeper leaving his line is necessary
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Terrible positioning for the disallowed goal so very lucky with that and as others have said seemed really timid not the proactive antithesis some would have led you to believe.
He’s got a lot to learn before we put him anywhere near De Gea, VDS and Schmeichel levels of performance.
Credit where it’s due for a good pass today though it did go out of the lines so again we got lucky on that front.
I want him to succeed here so it’s one less position to worry about but I’ve yet to see him do anything in a United shirt that no other decent GK could do. Whereas De Gea, VDS and Schmeichel all had some sort of X factor something that made them above others. He’s still young and hopefully he’ll show us his best in a few years but right now I think he needs more time before getting close to usurping De Gea.
He’s got a lot to learn before we put him anywhere near De Gea, VDS and Schmeichel levels of performance.
Credit where it’s due for a good pass today though it did go out of the lines so again we got lucky on that front.
I want him to succeed here so it’s one less position to worry about but I’ve yet to see him do anything in a United shirt that no other decent GK could do. Whereas De Gea, VDS and Schmeichel all had some sort of X factor something that made them above others. He’s still young and hopefully he’ll show us his best in a few years but right now I think he needs more time before getting close to usurping De Gea.
Shame you didn’t state he looks a bit timid in this game then.
I mean everyone is talking about this game...
you are right, I’ve not seen anything ‘x factor’ about him.
what is encouraging though, it that I suspect DDG was more than capable of playing yesterday, as it looks like a knock, but the manager is happy to put Henderson in there and allow DDG some time off, who I fully expect to be back in goal on Tuesday.
Not really, I was referring to his previous season at Sheffield Utd. Bit like if I was watching Greenwood earlier this season and stated he doesn’t look like a good finisher, I’d expect to get pulled up on it, as it’s common knowledge he is.
In general Henderson hasn't had a problem with being too timid up to now (indeed if anything overconfidence has been an issue) but that doesn't mean he isn't going to feel the nerves on his PL debut for us, or that he'll continue showing the same abundance of confidence here without falter.
There's a hell of a difference between playing for Manchester United and playing for Sheffield United. That will become even more pronounced when he inevitably makes mistakes and the pressure piles on. We saw De Gea survive that pressure and criticism when he first arrived and he is currently in the process of trying to survive it a second time, rallying from a collapse in form to hold off competition from the seemingly anointed future England and United #1.
We have no way of knowing if Henderson has the same ability to cope under the pressure, as he didn't even experience that sort of spell at Sheffield United's level. It's not like he'd be the first good goalkeeper to ultimately fail here either. The likes of Howard and Foster were good enough to have substantial PL careers but still weren't good enough. It's impossible to judge Henderson at this point but we can't just assume that the authority he showed at SU will hold up here too. He may well have games where he looks timid, certainly initially and maybe beyond.
There's a hell of a difference between playing for Manchester United and playing for Sheffield United. That will become even more pronounced when he inevitably makes mistakes and the pressure piles on. We saw De Gea survive that pressure and criticism when he first arrived and he is currently in the process of trying to survive it a second time, rallying from a collapse in form to hold off competition from the seemingly anointed future England and United #1.
We have no way of knowing if Henderson has the same ability to cope under the pressure, as he didn't even experience that sort of spell at Sheffield United's level. It's not like he'd be the first good goalkeeper to ultimately fail here either. The likes of Howard and Foster were good enough to have substantial PL careers but still weren't good enough. It's impossible to judge Henderson at this point but we can't just assume that the authority he showed at SU will hold up here too. He may well have games where he looks timid, certainly initially and maybe beyond.
He gets nothing right for their first goal, watch the replay. Has nothing to do with narrowing angles.
There's no camera angles for it.
If you want an example of how good this kid is, take a look at Sheffield United this season.
A Sheff Utd poster on here said he wouldn’t have made much difference.
His distribution looks quite good for someone who's just made his debut, so he's definitely better than de Gea at that aspect of the game. He will need many games to prove he is better than him at thos most important ones though.
Hopefully he becomes the example of what a really good loan spell can do for a player. I reckon he should become our number one by end of 2021
Agree about the loans. Seems a long time since we had a successful loan, perhaps Tuanzebe, although that seemed to be disrupted by injury.
not sure he will become our no 1 - but let the best man win, and whatever the end result is, the competition looks to be giving us a net benefit.
I thought he was alright, but my only qualm generally when I watched him for Sheffield is I didn't think he was quite as agile as he should be when making dives low. Hopefully I'm wrong though, I think even at his age DDG is as quick as a cat.
I think it would take a big disaster of Joe Hart proportions for him not to be number 1
He looks hungry and I think he will get better with more games.
. The test will be when we have complete control on a game and the opposition get one chance
it is a conundrum. DDG has only just turned 30. If his improvement in form is not temporary, then he could play at the top for at least another 5 years. Clearly Henderson isn't going to wait that long.
I think the biggest test is how he’s going to cope with an error. That’s when we will see his mentality, the likes of Foster and Howard were both extremely talented keepers, but couldn’t cope with the pressure and forensic analysis of their game. DDG has actually managed that part extremely well, and it’s very rare for a keeper to come back from some of the errors he’s made.
whether Henderson has the mentality to cope with the inevitable criticism will be the big test.
He's got a massive welly!
I'm special. I talked about Henderson performance since he was a baby wearing gloves.
His positioning was suspect at the offside goal but this happened to Big dave before too.
I think he saved a goal going against Haller, no matter how clumsy it looked, was brave to go outnd before the frenchman could set himself up for a good shooting positions he was there to let him think about something else.
Great coming off his line for our first goal, don't think DDG would make that.
And I he's got a good long throw on him unlike DDG.
Seems pretty relaxed and confident in the cage overal, I so far never feared of him making a mistake, looks very assured to me.
The question is if he can every match DDGs cat reflexes but so far he didn't have much time to show them.
Mentality wise, I hope he's not another J. Pickford. However I think he's done well for someone who plays one in 5 games or so, that is never easy.
I think he saved a goal going against Haller, no matter how clumsy it looked, was brave to go outnd before the frenchman could set himself up for a good shooting positions he was there to let him think about something else.
Great coming off his line for our first goal, don't think DDG would make that.
And I he's got a good long throw on him unlike DDG.
Seems pretty relaxed and confident in the cage overal, I so far never feared of him making a mistake, looks very assured to me.
The question is if he can every match DDGs cat reflexes but so far he didn't have much time to show them.
Mentality wise, I hope he's not another J. Pickford. However I think he's done well for someone who plays one in 5 games or so, that is never easy.
De Gea's cat reflexes aren't all that anymore, at least compared to 4-5 years ago. Henderson isn't a large drop off in terms of shot stopping, and is noticeably better at distributing the ball and communicating with his defenders. As he's on almost 1/3 the wages I'd say that's more than a fair deal.
I am all for Deano to take over from DDG when he´s ready but Dave´s reflexes are still there, only just produce one of the saves of the season last game against PSG. I don´t see that many goalies making this kind of save, diving low so quick but I´d hope to see Henderson show more of that, also DDGs positioning is top class, making him grat keeper on the line. It´s the rate of his mistakes which is the biggest issue
He's gets accused for being over confident but I'd rather someone of that attribute than a coward.
Congratulations on becoming our new number 1
Ole will need another 30 games to realise it. I mean he never game Romero a chance, even when De Gea fecked up on a weekly basis.
Our coaching staff always need longer to process things
Our coaching staff always need longer to process things
He has to be #1 moving forward but I have absolutely no faith in that being the case
If I was Henderson and didn’t get a run as number 1 now, then I’d genuinely give strong consideration to leaving the club.
Must be terribly frustrating to watch the guy ahead of you be largely woeful for over 2 years, yet still barely start a match.
Must be terribly frustrating to watch the guy ahead of you be largely woeful for over 2 years, yet still barely start a match.
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