De Gea contract talk | Signs new deal

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Subho611 said:
That’s the job of being a backup keeper. Being the first keeper for a top team in the PL is a different ball game. You only need to see as far as Liverpool, City and Arsenal to know that.

Given where the market is going, you will never be able to get a gk of his caliber anywhere else. Especially not for an out of form 33 year old player who is stretching thin his productive years in the game. One serious injury could be the end of Ronaldo in the PL.

If we are forced to sell him, I would rather bank the money and get a hungrier player who is still to achieve things and not a 33 year old multiple Balon d or winner whose only motivation would be to earn a last fat pay check.
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You're being very harsh on Ronaldo in claiming that his only motivation is a paycheck. He has ridiculous amounts of money and ridiculous earning potential post-career due to his notoriety.

I'd imagine his motivation is to solidify himself as the greatest ever. A good way to do that would be to come back to United and help the team win trophies and score a bunch of goals in the process.

Also, I don't think you're giving him due credit with respect to the lengths he goes to keep himself fit. Look at what 35 year old Zlatan was able to do for us last season. Now consider that Ronaldo is 3 years younger and in even better shape than Zlatan, and probably works harder on his fitness as well. Not to mention he's simply more skilled all-around.
 
Todd said:
You're being very harsh on Ronaldo in claiming that his only motivation is a paycheck. He has ridiculous amounts of money and ridiculous earning potential post-career due to his notoriety.

I'd imagine his motivation is to solidify himself as the greatest ever. A good way to do that would be to come back to United and help the team win trophies and score a bunch of goals in the process.

Also, I don't think you're giving him due credit with respect to the lengths he goes to keep himself fit. Look at what 35 year old Zlatan was able to do for us last season. Now consider that Ronaldo is 3 years younger and in even better shape than Zlatan, and probably works harder on his fitness as well. Not to mention he's simply more skilled all-around.
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No, United is not the final frontier for continental players. If he comes here, the only reason will be the wages on offer and nothing else. Let's not succumb to romanticism as he has dropped our name multiple times in the past to get a fatter contract.

This time it is no different either. Although, there is a very high possibility that he will feck himself off to PSG with Neymar going the other way where he will see out his remaining days in the sunshine, beating teams 8-0 and scoring feck loads of goals.

I will only part with DDG if we are getting someone like Neymar in the exchange and no one else. He is that good.
 
Handré1990 said:
Why must everything be put such a negative spin on? He knows the club Ia desperate to keep him, he can wait until summer to negotiate what will probably be the best contract for a keeper, ever.

Is it now a bad thing to focus on the actual job he’s doing? First things first, is how I understood it
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City are racking up long term deals for their big stars mid season. The 'focus on the actual job' is a lame excuse. Discussing, agreeing and signing contracts mid season happens all the time at all clubs.

With Kepa (who supposedly was Real's main target) signing a new contract until 2025 today, realistically Real will be looking towards DDG and Courtois. The latter is also being linked with PSG today. The longer we let this drag out, the more we invite Real back into the equation.

If the club lets this remain unsettled until the summer and he goes on to have a good WC then we might be in a pickle. For all of DDG's brilliance in the last 4-5 years, most of it has only been showcased domestically. He hasn't had a proper CL run yet, wasn't our starting GK in the EL victory last season and wasn't Spain's undisputed number 1 until Euro 2016 (which was a poor tournament for him by his standards). He is pretty much underrated by people who follow major competitions but not the PL, which is evident by how lowly rated he is when it comes to all these global awards. I'd say he's just a good WC away from being widely regarded as the best GK in the world and then the hype will be unreal. Best GK in the world, entering his prime at 27 years old, only 24 months left on the contract with Real wanting his services. He will hold all the cards.

Just tie him down for 4+1 years as soon as possible. At least that way if he leaves in the next 1-2 years it will be for a fee beyond £100m.
 
Doesnt look good, Real will not go away unless he signs a new massive contract and they are forced to look for another keeper
 
Was inevitable really after the comments from De Gea then Real abandoning the signing of Kepa. They've got their sights much higher. Our best hope would probably be if Courtois kicks up a stink at Chelsea.
 


Does anyone know what this says. I cant make much sense from it.
 
izec said:
Doesnt look good, Real will not go away unless he signs a new massive contract and they are forced to look for another keeper
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We just signed Alexis feckin Sanchez out of nowhere, I'm sure we have a plan with De Gea.
 
Damien said:
Was inevitable really after the comments from De Gea then Real abandoning the signing of Kepa. They've got their sights much higher. Our best hope would probably be if Courtois kicks up a stink at Chelsea.
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What will be good is that we definitely won't be letting him go for cheap. The way the market is going I'd expect nothing less than £100 million considering Kepa just extended and his clause is 80 Euro's.
 
“It’s not the time to think about contract... because all I can think about is Alexis.”

98.7% sure that’s what he meant.
 
izec said:
Doesnt look good, Real will not go away unless he signs a new massive contract and they are forced to look for another keeper
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Trying to convince him to sign the new contract is our biggest issue, it's unlikely that he'll do so if he still wants to go to Madrid and they want him, I think the best option we have is make him our highest paid player. At least we have a bit of time to look for/convince other options to join us, last time we didn't really have a plan if we lost him. This time I hope we go all out for someone like Oblak, DDG's the best in the world so anyone attainable is a downgrade but we can at least go for someone top tier.
 
Before I get too carried away, how reliable is the source?
 
Di Maria's angel said:
In this inflated market, we'd demand close to £100m for him, maybe more.
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I cant see him being sold for anything less. He is the best goalkeeper in the world and as you say the market is super inflated.
 
Samid said:
City are racking up long term deals for their big stars mid season. The 'focus on the actual job' is a lame excuse. Discussing, agreeing and signing contracts mid season happens all the time at all clubs.

With Kepa (who supposedly was Real's main target) signing a new contract until 2025 today, realistically Real will be looking towards DDG and Courtois. The latter is also being linked with PSG today. The longer we let this drag out, the more we invite Real back into the equation.

If the club lets this remain unsettled until the summer and he goes on to have a good WC then we might be in a pickle. For all of DDG's brilliance in the last 4-5 years, most of it has only been showcased domestically. He hasn't had a proper CL run yet, wasn't our starting GK in the EL victory last season and wasn't Spain's undisputed number 1 until Euro 2016 (which was a poor tournament for him by his standards). He is pretty much underrated by people who follow major competitions but not the PL, which is evident by how lowly rated he is when it comes to all these global awards. I'd say he's just a good WC away from being widely regarded as the best GK in the world and then the hype will be unreal. Best GK in the world, entering his prime at 27 years old, only 24 months left on the contract with Real wanting his services. He will hold all the cards.

Just tie him down for 4+1 years as soon as possible. At least that way if he leaves in the next 1-2 years it will be for a fee beyond £100m.
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Very good points. I am still not sure it’s time to panic yet, but then again I thought he had 3 years left, for some reason.

He’s the best in the world for me, and I usually catch a couple of Bayern games a month (free BuLi on the TV). We should definitely get him signed on a new long term asap. He certainly deserves to be the best paid keeper if we go by importance and level the last three years.
 
AltiUn said:
Before I get too carried away, how reliable is the source?
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Man Utd Carreno is very very good unfortunately but in any case we all could have guessed Real we're not done with De Gea. We could just give them an astronomical figure and hopefully they switch their attention to Courtous. We won't be getting a bad deal for De Gea anyway. As good as he is he's more replaceable than Ronaldo was. We could still go for Oblak or Donnarumma etc. And there are always top quality goal keepers coming through. If he wants to go then let him but make sure we get a top top dollar for him.
 
His contract is until june 2019 and the club has the option to prolong it one more year. That extra year can be signed unilaterally by the club or needs the signature of De Gea?
 
Not worried at all, not like the previous summers when I was expecting him to always leave. Now I'm sure he's going to stay.

Madrid can get Courtois if they want a new GK. Good luck for them!
 
Stopped being bothered with DDG long time ago, so couldnt care less, he is resetting this saga every year, what a wuss.
 
Got a feeling Real will be spending their pennies further up the park this summer. Plus there’s the inevitable World Cup superstar that they always sign.
 
R'hllor said:
Stopped being bothered with DDG long time ago, so couldnt care less, he is resetting this saga every year, what a wuss.
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Why?

He signed a long term contact and hasn't said anything other than he is happy here... The Spanish press want real to sign him but we are not selling, easy.. He has done nothing wrong here..
 
Wicked_Badger said:
Got a feeling Real will be spending their pennies further up the park this summer. Plus there’s the inevitable World Cup superstar that they always sign.
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Yeah this is how I see it too. They aren't going to come close to our valuation and the player seems more than happy at United and after their season (provided they don't win the CL which they won't) they will go on an assault bringing in goals.
 
Handré1990 said:
Very good points. I am still not sure it’s time to panic yet, but then again I thought he had 3 years left, for some reason.

He’s the best in the world for me, and I usually catch a couple of Bayern games a month (free BuLi on the TV). We should definitely get him signed on a new long term asap. He certainly deserves to be the best paid keeper if we go by importance and level the last three years.
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Hopefully the contract talks with DDG were just put on hold because of the Alexis situation. I mean Jose himself confirmed they're eying up a long-term deal so he must be fairly confident that DDG will sign, otherwise he wouldn't be so open about it.

But then again, the last three weeks are a proof of never taking things for granted in football. Not only the Alexis situation but also Coutinho who most people thought wouldn't leave until the summer because he'd be cup-tied in the CL and not really required in the league. I won't be confident of De Gea starting next season at United until he signs that contract.
 
arthurka said:
Why?

He signed a long term contact and hasn't said anything other than he is happy here... The Spanish press want real to sign him but we are not selling, easy.. He has done nothing wrong here..
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Oh come on, what else he should say after his transfer collapsed due freaking fax machine. He didnt play during transfer window because his head wasnt right and LvG placed him on ice. It was also a season before some competition, think it was EURO. So when whole thing fell a part, he signed a new contract what else.

Like i said, was arsed at start of whole thing but i really dont care since then, about his move, him sniffing Real`s arse, Real sniffing his, about his "famous" girlfriend what not. "Not time to talk about contract" ... just stay or go, reseting this RM bullshit every summer is way past boring now.
 
Inter Yer Nan said:
I think Madrid are more likely to get Courtois than De Gea at this point.
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Quietly thinking the same thing, they need to spend big at the other end of the pitch this along with Courtois's noises make me thing there may already be some sort of deal in place.

I know everything Ballague says should be taken with a pinch of salt but this is from his column today;

They were thinking they may need two, but that's now one, and that one is Thibaut Courtois.


Courtois has a choice to make: PSG, Real Madrid or renewing at Chelsea. Any of these three options would make him the best-paid goalkeeper in the world. The only thing right now is that PSG have done more of the preliminary work, and Real are coming late to the table.

Any move would happen in the summer, but Courtois wants the situation sorted now, with his contract running out at the end of June 2019.

Courtois wants to go back to Madrid because a lot of his family are there, and even though PSG were ahead, Real have gone very strong in the last few hours to try to convince him to move to the Bernabeu.
 
deafepl said:
It would make a lot of sense considering Courtois's contract
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What is Courtois' contract situation?

I think Dave is genuinely bought into becoming a United legend whereas seriously, what player seriously gives a shit about being a Chelsea legend? He'd be half the price too so might present a more attractive option for Real who are going to want to add probably a couple of big names up front so that's probably 200m for them right there.
 
Inter Yer Nan said:
What is Courtois' contract situation?

I think Dave is genuinely bought into becoming a United legend whereas seriously, what player seriously gives a shit about being a Chelsea legend? He'd be half the price too so might present a more attractive option for Real who are going to want to add probably a couple of big names up front so that's probably 200m for them right there.
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5 seconds on Google and I found out his contract expires the 30th June 2019. So this Summer he only has a year left!

They should be able to get him for £50-60m or £40m + Navas.
 
Seven Seas Sardines said:
Real can hopefully buy Courtois and PSG Lloris, we can't be comfortable until they do, or Dave signs a new contract.
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PSG might be going for Alisson. Which would be smart business, probably the player I would look to, if we had to replace de Gea.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
What will be good is that we definitely won't be letting him go for cheap. The way the market is going I'd expect nothing less than £100 million considering Kepa just extended and his clause is 80 Euro's.
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if the buyout clause for Kepa is 80 EUR, I'm willing to pay this by myself and send him wrapped up as a present to Real so they don't go after DDG. 80 EUR is nothing in todays market. not even for a 42 y/o crippled CF
 
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