Day 5: Germany vs. Portugal

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Eh? I'm all in favour of bashing Chiles but he's absolutely spot on with his views on play acting. Not sure why you'd call him a cnut or a twat for that. In no other sport do you see play acting and blatant cheating like you do in football. Maybe wrestling. It's getting fecking embarrassing.
 
In reality he is probably the nicest guy you could meet. Very funny and down to earth, not the slightest bit arrogant.
Off the field yeah I've heard his a really down to earth guy, but on the field his incredibly arrogant yet his one of my favourite players :lol:
 
I think the likes of Meireles and Almeida wouldn't get any minutes in Bosnian team, let alone some top teams, surely you can find better midfielder than Meireles at average Portuguese club.

Easy mate. The same Meireles featured on both portuguese teams that beat Bosnia in consecutive play offs. It doesn´t matter if there are better choices, Paulo Bento won´t pick them because he is a stubborn prick.
 
Exactly. I dont want to start that boring talk about them but yesterday every other post was about messi being past it. And no mention about Ronaldo being poor today.

Ronaldo is poor today, but i won't talk about him because i don't admire his playing style. While i'm sad to see Messi being a shadow of himself.
 
I really don't like Pepe so not sad to see him go and honestly find it laughable when he reacts to things like that, given he'd still be on the floor if it were him. But it has killed them game which is annoying.

I get the point both sides are making for ITV. End of the day you shouldn't react but at the same time the play acting is always so frustrating too watch and doesn't need to happen.

In general though for Potrugal in their next game I think they need to get away from this get the ball to Ronaldo at all costs mentality. You can see it so obviously in how they play and players aren't making the best decisions due to it. He's probably got a better chance of scoring if they don't make him the target in every attack. He can then look to capitalize on his great movement/reaction to chances .
 
Chiles and Dixon are honest people. Vieira and Cannavaro are cheats. That's where the difference of opinion comes from.

Clash of cultures.

Didn't say you did. My post was tongue-in-cheek by the way, it's ridiculous to criticise a player based on 45 minutes - just strange that Messi was thrown under the bus at half time yesterday when Cristiano hasn't been.

Makes you wonder who won the Ballon d'Or and has more pressure at this World Cup?
 
Portugal are the worst team in this world cup thus far. Disgraceful performance. Worse than Spain by a mile.

United States will defeat them.
 
Muller seems the most arrogant person but I'm a huge fan of his.

He definitely isn't...lots of people getting a wrong impression here. VERY down to earth guy, possibly the least arrogant in Germany's starting eleven.
 
Lets ask Vieira what he thinks about racist chanting at football matches. Part and parcel of the game? Or something that needs to be eradicated?
 
Ronaldo is definitely not 100%. Bento should consider taking him off, 45 minutes is enough. Save him for the next matches.
 
He's only voicing his opinion because the player in question is German. He says feck all when England players do it.

Well then you should ask why he's not making these points when England play - not lamenting him for making him now.

I realise it's easy, fashionable, and more or less, incredibly justified to have a pop at Chiles - but when he's actually doing his job well, seems a bit still have a pop.
 
Oh dear Portugal.

Well I think they will still qualify as 2nd and if they do, the funny thing is that they will probably get as far as Germany: both out in the semis.
 
Paulo Bento is a nutshell. He could put Carvalho and move Veloso to center back but instead he puts Ricardo Costa who is always a horrible player in our national team. God forbid if he put Carvalho to balance the midfield and prove he was wrong in the first place.
 
Ronaldo is definitely not 100%. Bento should consider taking him off, 45 minutes is enough. Save him for the next matches.

Agreed, it's over, no point in overworking your best players and risk further injuries.
 
Easy mate. The same Meireles featured on both portuguese teams that beat Bosnia in consecutive play offs. It doesn´t matter if there are better choices, Paulo Bento won´t pick them because he is a stubborn prick.

I know he did, but that was long time ago and he was probably least responsible for that, I just don't get it.
 
Eh? I'm all in favour of bashing Chiles but he's absolutely spot on with his views on play acting. Not sure why you'd call him a cnut or a twat for that. In no other sport do you see play acting and blatant cheating like you do in football. Maybe wrestling. It's getting fecking embarrassing.
You might not see the play acting but you do see the cheating or attempted cheating. Players try and get away with all sorts in the NFL all the time.
 
Yeah, that's exactly how we won the World Cup three times...

Should have added that i was meaning with players in and around this squad.

So Argentina and England are second rate? We have beaten Argentina in the past 2 WC's in quarters, and England top16 2010.

Yes, at that time their squads were in the second tier, and both were pretty poor.
 
Ronaldo is poor today, but i won't talk about him because i don't admire his playing style. While i'm sad to see Messi being a shadow of himself.

But most people on the forum seem to love Ronaldo more than Messi, so it's strange they don't have such high expectations of him. Blind fandom comes to mind..
 
Well then you should ask why he's not making these points when England play - not lamenting him for making him now.

I realise it's easy, fashionable, and more or less, incredibly justified to have a pop at Chiles - but when he's actually doing his job well, seems a bit still have a pop.

Chiles and Dixon are just being totally unrealistic though. They are being a pair of idealistic idiots and moaning at every decision that isn't perfect and its annoying.
 
Muller should have been sent off for play acting. Pepe should have been sent off for acting hard and "headbutting" Muller. Vieira and Cannavaro should be sent off for setting a bad example to all the kids watching.
Since when is that a sending off offence? I mean, yeah he was play acting, but you're making up rules here. Regardless of the play acting, I though Pepe's push in the face was sneaky enough as it is, from the right angle you could see him making a little fist and giving an extra shove to the face. It's such an annoying thing to do, typical Pepe. Glad he's off.
 
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