We're not surprised a player has passed his peak.
We're surprised United issued a deal substantially higher than even the mad Saudi deals available.
David De Gea | Free agent | Said his goodbyes
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We're surprised United issued a deal substantially higher than even the mad Saudi deals available.
Daft yes. Surprising? In the wake of Alexis, Martial etc I’d say it was par for the course previously laid down by Ed and Matt.
It's clear his performance levels dropped in recent years and on top of his distribution weaknesses he can't be a number one for a club pushing for trophies. Wish him well, in his prime he was superb. I don't understand why fans hate the guy, we have a strange way of treating our legends
It's really strange. It's like if you don't show your vitriol, you're not a worthy fan or something. He's been a legend for us, and yeah it's time he moved on, but there's no need to shit on his legacy in the process.
Its like many posters enjoy shitting on our current and ex players day in day out. Really strange.
He left, he's not the player he used to be, leave it, dont post fraud videos and make fun of his mistakes.
Its quite sad to witness. I think the match day attending fans reaction is significantly different to the cafe keyboard warriors.
People always exaggerate the "hate" those players are supposedly facing, especially in a place like redcafe.
Most just want him to leave and few probably don't rate his time with the club as highly as other fans do. We don't have to agree on everything.
Most just want him to leave and few probably don't rate his time with the club as highly as other fans do. We don't have to agree on everything.
He's been here for very long, so deserves respect, but let's not make it bigger than it is. He was paid loads of money, not his fault we were in desperation and took that risk of giving him the contract, but the other side of the coin "loyal servant" is that his stay at United was prolonged.
Very lucky he had a fax machine that didn’t work otherwise he wouldn’t be a legend at any club.
Hey now, FDJ was all on @Berbaclass because he lost the faith before the window closed and jinxed the whole deal. Me and @Brownie85 were holding that thread together again a tide of ‘embarrassing’, ‘boring’ and ‘walk away’.
Fergie said we were never in for Sneijder aswell so not guilty there too!
As a season ticket holder, I'm delighted that he's leaving. I'm still a bit worried that the club will be forced into offering him a new deal. Not a United legend either in my book.
I know, I was teasing you, you are a true muppet.Hey now, FDJ was all on @Berbaclass because he lost the faith before the window closed and jinxed the whole deal. Me and @Brownie85 were holding that thread together again a tide of ‘embarrassing’, ‘boring’ and ‘walk away’.
Fergie said we were never in for Sneijder aswell so not guilty there too!
wenger??
Pitiful.
No, he was a brilliant shot stopper for many years.
What did I say to make it bigger than it is?
Anyway yeah "You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain” I think.
Shitty way to treat a legend. 12 years at the club, the best PL keeper for 6 of them and our best player for most of those 6.
I wish him the best.
I wish him the best.
Why did you start that with "as a season ticket holder"?
What was the other solution?
We could have thanked him for his long service and offered him a testimonial.
We have done none of the above as far as I can tell. And more importantly: why offer him a new contract on heavily reduced wages and then change our mind when he agrees? That's a dirty move that feels especially dirty when you're dealing with a legend.
We're not sure if you'll sign a contract but here you go - have a testimonial.
I'm not sure how that works.
As for the contract, yes they didnt handle it properly, lets not go overboard and call it dirty.
Somewhere along the way the club concluded they want to pay even less than they intended to. It happens.
Just let him go with a nice "thank you and all the best" send-off, rather than the offer of a new contract that was subsequently withdrawn (if the rumours are true). Whether you think he is a club legend and should stay, or like me, you think he has been a good player but it is time to go, it is poor form to not treat your players with respect (as I said, if the rumours are true).
You called him a loyal servant, what he obviously is. I just pointed out there's too much emphasis on him staying with United for so long. He was well paid for his stay and in fact his wages were the reason we couldn't possibly get another keeper as we couldn't move De Gea anyway.
In that context I don't think he has done enough to be a United legend. He was a great, maybe the best shot stopper for some time but never one of the best Goalkeepers around. I believe you have to command the box to be named that world class GK. That's why I never got into De Gea vs van der Sar discussion.
Well I guess there's still some talk and when there wont be I'm pretty sure the club will thank him. If that's the whole problem.
Quite agree, but it’s really not that many posters. The overwhelming majority who want him gone acknowledge he was great up to 2018.
You’re always going to get a handful of “always said he was shit” posters whenever a player declines or hits a patch of poor form. Even when said player obviously hasn’t been. Rashford last season being a prime example.
Maybe no one involved works at all during the weekend. That could explain the club being slow. I'll wait a few more days before concluding that the club is tactless as well as incompetent.
It was dirty though. Dirty, dirty, dirty.
I'm not following you.
Do you think it was dirty?
Yesh.
The club will thank de Gea when he has his move arranged. I don't think we would thank him with "relieved of his post" kind of message, just better to wait until he makes a move.
This whole situation is overblown on this forum, club is probably just aware very little people really care about De Gea contract satiation and mentioning this now brings too much attention on De Gea (doesn't look too good on him as well) and United in terms of new GK.
Completely agree.
I think de Gea will be regarded in a better light in a couple of years. People's opinions are clouded by recent performances but once that player is gone they remember the good performances.
Rooney was getting dog's abuse before he left and now people talk with admiration about his time at United
Rooney was getting dog's abuse before he left and now people talk with admiration about his time at United
Ah all right, wasnt sure.
Possibly because my opinion counts for more? Only kidding
It was in reply to @Stack who felt that match going fans may have a different view on De Gea compared to the "keyboard warriors". I was just giving him my perspective as a match-goer.I really hope so. It's been disheartening to read about him on this forum, that's for sure!
Ah, makes sense.Possibly because my opinion counts for more? Only kidding
I always say the same thing about Scholes. Although he was clearly brilliant to everyone with eyes and half a footballing brain, I didn't realise how good he was until I started watching him live. His positioning, movement, vision.. Incredible. I don't think it's possible to know quite how good he was unless you saw him live.
I think it will be the complete opposite, if we land a well-round GK that can do goalkeeper stuff apart from very eye-catching saves. I really think De Gea's deteriorated shot-stopping ability isn't the reason why we/other clubs are not chasing him, it's just that he doesn't offer much more as a GK. Never has offered anything more than what you get from a very average keeper these days.
Rooney was completely finished on top level when he left us, but the club should be blamed for handling this badly, not the player himself. This is simply something we don't do at United, everything runs it's course like it's completely out of our hands. Sometimes I feel like the club is afraid of what will the fans think so no tough "business" decisions are made. The decision to withdrawn De Gea contract offer was a tough business decision and I'm glad we made it. I will worry about how this was handled by the club later on (as I mentioned before, there are reasons to hold communication for now).
Yeah, watching players like Scholes live is a completely different experience. Their awareness and control looks almost inhuman.
Doubt it.
The period he played at United will "hopefully" be seen as a terrible period of our history.
Rooney played in a period we won everything, very different.
Agreed. I remember being at Old Trafford in '09 vs Fulham. Scholes put on a clinic that day. He made several 50-60 yard pings to the flank with ease. They knew exactly what he was planning to do, but couldn't get near him for all the reasons you mentioned.
So stupid, even though he is a free agent and the only link of any sort is to Saudi Arabia. No one wants him.
I disagree with you. I don’t think any of the sides who finished in the top 10 in Spain, Germany (top 9) or England would take De Gea. I can’t see him starting in a Champions League last 16 side ever again.
He’s been able to talk to European clubs since January. No one is interested.
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