[Jev]

Couldn't do much for any of the goals. But like the rest of the team, he has a soft mentality. Seems to buckle under pressure. That said, he's yet to make a mistake this season so I don't think he deserves to be dropped.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Couldn't do much for any of the goals. But like the rest of the team, he has a soft mentality. Seems to buckle under pressure. That said, he's yet to make a mistake this season so I don't think he deserves to be dropped.

must a bit bizarre- we’ve been spanked in all three games, but we can’t fault him at all.

 

[Alemar]

His record on penalties is absolutely astonishing.

How on earth is he so bad at saving them?

Today’s penalty was unsaveable. He actually almost got there, but the shot was too accurate and powerful.

Not really at fault for any of the goals

 

[Trophy Room]

He just isn't a leader at the back and even though he hasn't really made a mistake, I think Henderson deserves his chance now. That back 5 needs a leader especially with Maguires head seemingly in a Greek jail.

 

[izec]

Neither good or bad. The games where he saved us time and time again are long gone. People are happy if he doesnt make a mistake.

He fits in with Shaw, Lindelöf and Maguire mentality wise. Rooted to his line, afraid.

 

[Bebestation]

There was this corner today where he had a go at all the defenders in front of him but he wont come out from the back line to help them & catch the ball either.

Not good enough anymore. If he is going to be so reactive in goal then he has to be saving more goals.

 

[Based Adnan]

How can people say he's not at fault for the second? He literally hesitates coming off his line allowing Son to get there first

 

[sullydnl]

How can people say he's not at fault for the second? He literally hesitates coming off his line allowing Son to get there first

If that was the only or worst mistake involved in that goal and it had finished 2-1 then they might.

Given all the other mistakes, all the worse performances and all the other goals, it's hard to find the energy.

 

[Nicolarra90]

How is this useless prick getting away with it??? He's been the reason of all our defensive problems for long enough!.
The defense don't know how to react with his cowardice.
Weak at punching the ball away, weak at collecting the ball, poor at coming out of the line, useless at pens.

The second goal, bar maguire and bailly is 100% on him too, there was enough time to come out and kick the ball away.
It's always been the same problem, every season since 2012, but he'd cover that with his world class saves until 2018.
Anyway if he knew hoy to organize his defense most of those saves wouldn't have been necessary in the first place.

Give it to Henderson and Romero at 2nd, and send him, Pogba and all the other lazy and useless cnuts a kick in the arse.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Today’s penalty was unsaveable. He actually almost got there, but the shot was too accurate and powerful.

Not really at fault for any of the goals

I'm not blaming him for today.

I'm simply pointing out his record with saving penalties is astonishingly bad. Which it is.

Must be close to 25 pens in a row he's not saved.

 

[Wilt]

Must be close to 25 pens in a row he's not saved.

Think he hasn’t saved a pen since April 2016 ... 23 consecutive fails

May be some kind of record for a professional goalkeeper

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Think he hasn’t saved a pen since April 2016 ... 23 consecutive fails

May be some kind of record for a professional goalkeeper

Must be a few for Spain too in that time.

It's remarkable

 

[Wilt]

Must be a few for Spain too in that time.

It's remarkable

think that includes Spain

even more remarkable considering he’s the Worlds highest paid keeper

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Am I the only one who thinks that a keeper who is on top of all his responsibilities (which includes directing the back four) would never let a situation like the one leading up to Son’s goal happen?

 

[Bebestation]

I watch Liverpool losing 7-2 vs Aston villa & I feel what a world class all rounded goalkeeper really brings to that team.

We saw it with Karius & Adrian - whilst de gea is better, he is better and a goalkeeper through only a few specialities.

Building a team needs to be done by the fixing of the defence and until de gea goes I dont think we see that.

 

[Adnan]

How can people say he's not at fault for the second? He literally hesitates coming off his line allowing Son to get there first

 

[tentan]

Should've sold him ages ago.

 

[GledTheRed]

Was joking around with Kane at full time.

 

[Alemar]

So did de Gea concede 11 goals in 3 games without making a single mistake?

 

[Ronaldo's ego]

Today wasn’t the day to point out how long he hasn’t saved a pen because no keeper in the world saves that. Hasn’t been up to scratch for over 18 months now and Henderson deserves his chance. Having said that putting a new keeper in behind the utter crap we have in defence would be a big call.

 

[MattofManchester]

He is nowhere near the problem at the moment. None of the goals really have him at fault.
It's that shambles of a defence that can't even do the basics right.

 

[Jibbs]

I will not start him ever for United both unless Henderson and Romero are injured. Absolutely despise his presence in the team now.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

The organization point is spot on. VDS was exceptionally good at it, and it's no surprise that the back line looked calmer and steadier when he played than when one of his backups played.

 

[SadlerMUFC]

The main theme I am reading here is that De Gea isn't at fault for any of the goals so he doesn't deserve to be dropped. Here's the thing though...in Henderson's two starts, he has made a big save in each match at a crucial time that had a huge impact in us winning those matches. Had those goals went in nobody could have blamed him either. As it turned out, he did save and it helped us to win the game. So while De Gea hasn't "made a mistake", he also hasn't made any saves that help us turn the match around. Henderson has. I'm also not convinced on De Gea as a vocal leader on the pitch. For example, on Aurier's goal today, Pogba doesn't seem to know that his man is making a run behind him. Pogba shouldn't have his back to his man, but at the same time De Gea should be screaming at Pogba to pick him up. The keeper has the best vision on the field and should be instructing the players on what to do defensively. This is one of the basics of goal keeping that can be added to the list of "thing Dave doesn't do well"...

 

[Isotope]

Couldn't do much for any of the goals. But like the rest of the team, he has a soft mentality. Seems to buckle under pressure. That said, he's yet to make a mistake this season so I don't think he deserves to be dropped.

Why would you pay him the biggest wage of Gk in the whole fecking world, if you only expect him to not making mistake.

 

[KeanoMagicHat]

Good points although a little harsh on Given since he did have Titus Bramble and friends in front of him for his peak years. De Gea was always below average in coverage of box, distribution and general presence as goalkeeper. And absolutely nothing on Schmeichel and Van der Sar in that regard. When he was being compared with peak Neuer, the only way he could justify it would be to keep making 4 or 5 ridiculous saves a match and not make any errors. While he was doing that, it more than made up for the other things. Once he stopped doing that, there was nothing there.

The mistake aversion was a big one, he really was rock solid in avoiding errors for about 3 years up until about 2017. Then a few started to creep in and then the floodgates opened. A Neuer or Schmeichel can be forgiven for mistakes a lot easier than De Gea because if they drop a cross they'll collect another 20 more. If De Gea was a striker he'd be a goal poacher that needs to score to justify his position. That's what he's like with saves, he needs to pull off worldies to justify it. And he did for ages. But now he isn't, it's time for Henderson.

 

[Asger]

He just isn't a leader at the back and even though he hasn't really made a mistake, I think Henderson deserves his chance now. That back 5 needs a leader especially with Maguires head seemingly in a Greek jail.

I see him so often scream at his defenders in every match. There is no point having a keeper as a "leader" if your braindead defenders never listen. I have noticed very often recently from De Gea.

 

[SambaBoy]

I thought he could have done better for the first in all honesty. Yes it's Maguire's fault but De Gea shouldn't be so far rooted to his line and as soon as he sees Maguire ready to head the ball, he should be alert and ready to come collect the ball.

 

[cheeky_backheel]

He is a very good shot stopper but an average GK at best. He is like an expensive but lesser version of Iker.

 

[GazTheLegend]

Today’s penalty was unsaveable. He actually almost got there, but the shot was too accurate and powerful.

Not really at fault for any of the goals

Everyone always says this but you expect a world class goalkeeper to at least have one of those saves which you think "that should have been a goal!", Instead with De Gea it's always "ah that was always being a goal".

 

[Caesar2290]

A fun(or not) bit of trivia is that Dave is our only GK to concede 6 goals at OT on 2 separate occasions:

1-6 to City in 2011
1-6 to Spurs in 2020

I tried googling it, but I haven't found any other GK that has a similar record for us.

 

[Viral United]

Could have done better for 1st, 2nd and 4th goal, but when you have this shit defender around him I can't blame him.

 

[ash_86]

We need to freshen the backline and that should start with DDG. I'd like to see Henderson given a run of games to see if there is any visible improvment in the defense. Defense just need organization and i believe Henderson would be a better fit than DDG at this. I mena we've hit rock bottom now, whats there to lose in playing Henderson, which might turn out to be interesting atleast.

 

[Caesar2290]

We need to freshen the backline and that should start with DDG. I'd like to see Henderson given a run of games to see if there is any visible improvment in the defense. Defense just need organization and i believe Henderson would be a better fit than DDG at this. I mena we've hit rock bottom now, whats there to lose in playing Henderson, which might turn out to be interesting atleast.

The question is: does Ole have the balls to do this?

Some players just seem undropable irrespective of their current form. De Gea is one of them sadly.

 

[ash_86]

The question is: does Ole have the balls to do this?

Some players just seem undropable irrespective of their current form. De Gea is one of them sadly.

As much as i'm ole in , i don't think he would do it right away. He's not a gambler like SAF and dosen't make changes right away.

 

[AgentP]

Giving him that huge contract was always going to come back to bite us. He should be dropped and played in the cup games.

 

[Sylar]

Im not gonna blame DDG on any of the goals, even the second one as I put most of the blame on Maguire there.

But having grown up on strong, leaders in goal, DDG is not that. Even if we look past deficiencies he has in terms of his passing (which has regressed), or ability to come out and catch a ball, its how he organises in front of him. He has the full view of everything and either he just does nothing about it (and is too scared to speak up) or he does speak but everybody ignores him. Im not sure which is worse, maybe the second cos that shows a lack of respect to him, but either way, I miss the days of our keeper being able to organise and control whats in front of him.

Granted we had some brain dead defenders, but it would be nice to see the keeper lead them. And im not just talking about yesterdays mess. It just seems for a long time now, whoever we put in front of him, seems to be nervous when DDG is in goal. Maybe im being too harsh, but I guess we wont know until Henderson plays more games with the defence.

 

[Kerry Donaghy]

It's just round and round in circles with the Utd defence until people realise that the common denominator this past ten years is De Gea.
We could have prime Vidic and Rio and they would struggle playing with a goalkeeper that literally just stays rooted to the line and offers zero support or command of the box.

Our defenders were awful yesterday, don't get me wrong, but those first two goals are barely even chances if the keeper is switched on and comes and collects or clears it, 99% of other keepers do this, it's a very basic part of goalkeeping.

I've banging this drum for ten years now and I'm still genuinely baffled how people still can't see the absolute chaos this causes in our defence literally every week.
It's not going to change until this is sorted.

To make matters worse, he's the highest paid player in the league.

 

[Alemar]

Could have done better for 1st, 2nd and 4th goal, but when you have this shit defender around him I can't blame him.

But first goal was a severe deflection, how could he save that? If only he initially came out of his line to catch the first ball in the middle of the penalty box, but it’s not his play style...

The second and fourth goals he might have potentially saved, but neither was a “goalkeeper mistake”

 

[Viral United]

But first goal was a severe deflection, how could he save that? If only he initially came out of his line to catch the first ball in the middle of the penalty box, but it’s not his play style...

The second and fourth goals he might have potentially saved, but neither was a “goalkeeper mistake”

That's why said he could have done better.