ottosec
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One of only 3 players I feel is essential to building our next title challenging side around.
Who are the other 2 mate ?
Blind and Shaw, I don't consider anyone else essential.
Ahh ok.
Also bit of a tangent. But is that relative to the current management or an overall assessment of the squad ? I mean hypothetically would your opinion change if the likes of Di Maria, Herrera, Rooney were better utilized and played in their position of strength under someone like say Ancelotti or Simeone. Not that I'm advocating letting Van Gaal go mind. Still think the likes of those 3, Rojo and Mata have a lot to offer, can be integral to chances of future silverware and also, a couple of them are about to enter their prime years.
I'll be honest, I actually forgot about Herrera altogether given we haven't seen enough of him in this league to really judge. I worry Di Maria is too soft for the PL and for me Mata is too slow and weak. If I were building an ideal 11 from where we are now I'd struggle to find a way to use Rooney as a starter unless he showed he can operate in a fluid front 3.
If we look at it from the point of view that Blind is the #6 and Rooney the pivot in a front 3, we'd still need two strong, combative box to box CM's with ability on the ball and two wide forwards to really get after it IMO. As for Rojo, I like him but he troubles me at the same time, certainly couldn't say I'd count him as essential, but a good squad player to have.
Gotcha. Yup I too think a couple of combative central midfielders who could slot in rightaway are a must, as are two direct wide attackers, plus a first choice RB now that Rafael's frozen out and atleast one top quality center half on top of a potentially top quality center half. Also maybe a striker. Blimey that's a massive list - like 3/4ths of the starting XI plus depth.
Aye, why should he have any loyalty for a club that paid a lot for him and helped nurture him into the player he is today?Theres no way he's staying. Why would he?
We don't deserve him and that is the damn truth. As someone said above, he is the only player we can truly hands down call world class, well Di Maria is but he isn't showing world class form at this club...
We don't deserve him? Christ. What is it with the fecking self-flaggelation on here?!! Man up ffs. We are Manchester United.
Moving swiftly on. Anyone see the way he was absolutely furious with himself for getting a hand on the follow up from Nolan's shot. Which was going about 6 inches wide. Love that sort of perfectionism.
Aye that 4-0 spanking v Atletico must have had him licking his lips.Yeah noticed that. He really demands the best from himself. It's a shame that his teammates are so far off his level at the moment. Anyway, if he does leave it's not like it wouldn't be understandable. I mean yeah we're Manchester United a big club etc etc but he'd be getting what he deserves at Madrid.
I know there are a lot of negative types on here but why the feck is Dave only averaging around 6 in the match ratings?
Was talking about his average rating for the season, not just today.To be honest he made a couple of mistakes today as well as the saves - most of which he would have been expected to make. I gave him a 7 and still had him as MotM for us (although that was more due to how bad our outfield players were) but it wasnt his best performance of the season.
Was talking about his average rating for the season, not just today.
Er, yeah. It's not quite the haven of level-headed post-game analysis I once thought it was.Ah.
I dont think anyone has a particularly good average rating to be honest, the Caf is very fickle and exaggerates most ratings, I find.
Aye that 4-0 spanking v Atletico must have had him licking his lips.
Too right, I remember his saves more than the goals we score.How many points has he won us this season? Without him we would be behind right now