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Woah. He's kind of a big deal.
Woah. He's kind of a big deal.
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Casillas only has 3.41 million, even more reason to drop him.
sell him.
I love him.
It's going to be very painful when he leaves for a club in Spain, whether that be now or in a while.
Or maybe he will stay at United for the rest of his career? Who knows. I don't understand this assumption that he will go back to Spain. There are more Spaniards in the PL than ever before and they seem to settle just fine.
He can go back to Atleti when he's thirty something, they'll get plenty more years out of him. Once his prime years are here he'll be a Manchester United legend. That must be a motivation for him. Isn't he a massive van der Sar fan?
How often do big money transfers happen between two clubs regarding goalkeepers anyway? I can remember people saying the same about Pepe Reina when Liverpool were rock bottom and he didn't end up moving until Liverpool wanted to move him on.
hope the board will offer him a new contract ASAP. if everything is fine i think he is going to be at OT for years to come.
and yes he can return to atletico once he is 35 or something and play a season or two there before retire .
He needs to be offered top top dollar for a young keeper of his stature. not talking 200k a week, but something unparalleled for a keeper of his prestige
Glad he finally started for Spain in a match that wasn't meaningless. Please re-sign him ASAP. I will be devastated if he leaves. My favourite player by a long way.
If he becomes Spains number one I think it is inevitable he will join Real/Barc sooner rather than later
I don't think he's going to play for Real Madrid, he's Atletico fan.
Why does becoming number one make any difference compared to being number two? He'll be travelling with the squad regardless.
Because one of them will want Spains number one...its the way they work
He's Spanish, so if he becomes a really brilliant keeper then Real or Barca will be interested. That stands to reason. Not sure his pecking order in the squad is all that important tbh. His individual performances for United will be just as important. Especially if/when we start competing in the CL again.
Semantics, though. I do agree he'll be on the radar of both those clubs. Probably already is. I'm struggling to think of any really top class Spanish player that came to prominence in a foreign league and didn't end up playing for one of those two clubs. Anyone?
Fernando Torres. Was building a reputation up at Atletico but exploded at Liverpool. Shame it all went downhill for him.
I don't think that's the case at all. Many journalists have praised him since the season we won the league. The story did come up after the Everton game but that's just common sense really. It's when interest in him from the public is at it's highest and he will sell papers so it makes sense to put him in them. I don't think there was an "Is he any good?" thing with him until the Everton game at all, he had a slow season but people clearly rate him highly.
Javi Martinez too, maybe? Although he's still relatively young and has only really had one top class season so far.
Still, it is quite alarming. It won't be long before Koke heads to Barca too, I think.
Arteta, Reina, Silva, Almunia
and Torres. But big spanish players playing outside of la Liga is new.Arteta, Reina, Silva, Almunia
Arteta started his career at Barcelona and never made it so don't know if could really count him given they had the chance and passed on it.
It depends on how you would define them coming to prominence I suppose (which is getting really pedantic I admit!) For example Reina and Almunia did come to prominence to an extent but there's no way they were ever good enough to play at Madrid or Barcelona.
I've always been of the same belief that any truly brilliant Spanish players end up playing at Barcelona or Madrid eventually. The one who come over here either aren't actually at that level or they failed there previously. Silva's probably the only one at the moment who's good enough to get in one of their teams. I'd say even the likes of Mata who are very good players aren't at that level.
I hope Real try to sign him, so we can slap a £780M price tag on his head.
I actually think Mata would have been great for the Spain/Barcelona sides in those times when they've looked completely toothless against a packed defence (e.g. - vs. Switzerland in 2010). His end product is a level above that of any Spanish midfielder barring Fabregas and his lack of speed wouldn't really matter in a system where the team is dominating possession and 'letting the ball do the work'. Obviously he's not on top of his game right now but when he's on top form he's easily one of the best players in the league (and I actually think he should have won player of the year over RVP and Bale in 2011-2 and 2012-13).
With De Gea it seems unlikely he'll go to Madrid and hopefully Ter Stegen is a marker that Barca wont be looking for a new keeper any time soon.
The question is "where they ended up ?" And why saying that for Arteta and not for Reina ? Furthermore Arteta never played for Barcelona fc.
Now Madrid and Barcelona were never in competition with foreign clubs for the best spanish players, so we can't predict what will happen when they miss a young player and let him sign for a big club.
Thiago, De Gea or Silva, may never play for them because they already are in big clubs. And if they want them, they will have to spend a lot.
Indeed. That list bit is very reassuring.
Because I forgot Reina played for Barcelona...
Surely that contradicts the whole thing though? This is getting pedantic but then the question raised is "Didn't end up playing for 1 of them 2?" So Reina and Arteta played for Barca and didn't make it. The fact they came to prominence in a foreign league is somewhat irrelevant to them not ending up at 1 of the 2 big Spanish clubs. The reason they didn't end up there is because they weren't good enough to the first time and never imrpvoed enough to go back (unlike Fabregas for example.)
I don't think spending is ever a worry for Real or Barcelona, if they want someone they will pay the money. Time will tell with the 3 players you mention there though. I don't think Thiago is a brilliant example of someone coming to prominence in a foreign league though, he came to prominence in a hugely successful Barcelona team...he's won La Liga's, Copa del Reys and a Champions League with them so it's not like he was an unknown player. De Gea is probably the most likely of them 3 to go to one of the 2 Spanish clubs, the ship has sailed somewhat with Silva due to age. He's not old but he doesn't seem to suit the current policies at Barca and Real which is buying younger superstar players.
He's a very good player but I'm not sure if he's one of the best. With Madrid and Barcelona's Spanish players I don't think they play just because they're Spanish it's because they're the best in that position...or one of the best. Casillas, Ramos, Alba, Xavi, Iniesta etc are all brilliant players. I don't know if Mata would be able to consistently play in one of the 2 teams. It's all opinions of course though.
I suppose the point I'm making is that out of all the Spanish players around in other leagues Barca or Real don't need or miss any of them. The only 1 who could come close is De Gea but like you say it seems Barca have that position covered and I don't know if he'd go to Madrid due to previosu ties.
Well as long as we're successful, I think we can keep him happy over here. At least that's what I hope happens
On another note, Fergie got a few keepers wrong in his time, but the 3 that he did get right, were phenomenally right.
On another note, Fergie got a few keepers wrong in his time, but the 3 that he did get right, were phenomenally right.
Silva was who I was going to suggest but Mata is another one I'd say you can make a case for.
Our of interest sake how much would you value him at? His potential is sky high. May I also remind you that Buffon went for €50 million 13 years ago.
50m, or 35m+Ter Stegen or 40m+Keylor Navas or 10m+De Gea for Bale.
For his gloves.
We could throw in a doughnut at that price to sweeten the deal.
£25m is low but you have to remember his contract situation at the moment. I think he will renew with us but if he was to be sold, I'm not sure that we'd get much more than that for him. Probably 30m at best.
Lol.
Seriously they will need to break the transfer record for a goalie to get him, something like £50m. Juve bought a 18 yo Buffon for £32m at the time, must be £50m in todays money minimum.
The worrying thing is that his contract is up in 20 months, and we will never get this kind of cash if he doesn't extend.
Seriously they will need to break the transfer record for a goalie to get him, something like £50m. Juve bought a 18 yo Buffon for £32m at the time, must be £50m in todays money minimum.
The worrying thing is that his contract is up in 20 months, and we will never get this kind of cash if he doesn't extend.
If he signs a new contract then we should refuse to sell him unless they pay something ridiculous (and I am talking about world transfer record, something like 100m). Even 50m will be too low IMO simply because we cannot get a great goalkeeper to replace him for that amount of money.
The contract should be the priority and really should've been signed by now. Hopefully it's done by the end of January or next summer could be a long one with constant rumours.