Is it time for DDG to take some steroids and bulk up?
David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances
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Anders Lindegaard Leads League in Save Percentage
Despite struggling to overtake David de Gea as Manchester United’s outright first choice goalkeeper, Anders Lindegaard has the highest save percentage in the Premier League through 20 games.
The Dane, who caught people’s attention when he kept 5 clean sheets in his first 5 Premier League starts has saved 84.28% of shots he’s faced this season.
In comparison, David de Gea has saved 76.71%. Both Manchester United goalkeepers are well-above the league average 69.47%.
David de Gea has only conceded 2 goals outside the penalty area in the league this season. Arsenal’s Wojciech Szczesny has conceded 6 from 18+ yards, form Manchester United goalkeeper Tim Howard has conceded 4, and Blackburn’s Paul Robinson leads the league having conceded 12 from long range already this season.
Anders Lindegaard averages a goal conceded every 2 games (180 minutes). The next nearest to him in that category is Liverpool’s Jose Reina who concedes a goal on average every 100 minutes in the Premier League.
Anders Lindegaard Leads League in Save Percentage
Found it.
Anders Lindegaard Leads League in Save Percentage
Despite struggling to overtake David de Gea as Manchester United’s outright first choice goalkeeper, Anders Lindegaard has the highest save percentage in the Premier League through 20 games.
The Dane, who caught people’s attention when he kept 5 clean sheets in his first 5 Premier League starts has saved 84.28% of shots he’s faced this season.
In comparison, David de Gea has saved 76.71%. Both Manchester United goalkeepers are well-above the league average 69.47%.
David de Gea has only conceded 2 goals outside the penalty area in the league this season. Arsenal’s Wojciech Szczesny has conceded 6 from 18+ yards, form Manchester United goalkeeper Tim Howard has conceded 4, and Blackburn’s Paul Robinson leads the league having conceded 12 from long range already this season.
Anders Lindegaard averages a goal conceded every 2 games (180 minutes). The next nearest to him in that category is Liverpool’s Jose Reina who concedes a goal on average every 100 minutes in the Premier League.
Anders Lindegaard Leads League in Save Percentage
Well, how on earth did THAT lead you to the conclusion that "stats prove Lindegaard has been the best keeper in the league this season"?
Are you thick or something?
I didn't make such conclusion. Don't get me wrong, I am not supporter of statistic. I am just saying, there's such statistic there saying that. Not my point here. And right Lindegaard isn't the best in the league, far from it.
Found it.
Anders Lindegaard Leads League in Save Percentage
Despite struggling to overtake David de Gea as Manchester United’s outright first choice goalkeeper, Anders Lindegaard has the highest save percentage in the Premier League through 20 games.
The Dane, who caught people’s attention when he kept 5 clean sheets in his first 5 Premier League starts has saved 84.28% of shots he’s faced this season.
In comparison, David de Gea has saved 76.71%. Both Manchester United goalkeepers are well-above the league average 69.47%.
David de Gea has only conceded 2 goals outside the penalty area in the league this season. Arsenal’s Wojciech Szczesny has conceded 6 from 18+ yards, form Manchester United goalkeeper Tim Howard has conceded 4, and Blackburn’s Paul Robinson leads the league having conceded 12 from long range already this season.
Anders Lindegaard averages a goal conceded every 2 games (180 minutes). The next nearest to him in that category is Liverpool’s Jose Reina who concedes a goal on average every 100 minutes in the Premier League.
Anders Lindegaard Leads League in Save Percentage
See my edited post. I don't think we can read too much into that due to the sample size first and foremost for Lindegaard, I also think you have to take into account the opposition in those games.
Again, he's a solid keeper who I think should be behind De Gea in the pecking order based on ability.
Well, okay then. I misunderstood you pal.
His stats are obviously very good, and as I said he looks a solid keeper. But the one time he's played, and we've actually looked under siege(against City in the Cup) he's looked as dodgy as anything I've seen from De Gea. And ability-wise, I think De Gea's looked the better keeper, under twice the pressure and scrutiny that Lindegaard's got.
It's hard to use stats in this case. De Gea has played more PL games than Lindegaard.
There just aren't enough good goalies to go around. Or they turn sh*t at the drop of a hat. Since the 90s, Ferguson has bought more atrocious keepers than brilliant ones. Liverpool haven't done any better, in fact other than Reina there aren't any brilliant ones I can think of.
It was only till this month that De Gea held the state of #1 save/shot ratio in the league.
I don't even know what to make of this anymore. Both keepers are just as unreliable as each other methinks.
No idea what people expected him to do against both goals yesterday. He was never going to get the ball for the first one (nor would any keeper) and I was more upset that we let Agger go up unchallenged, and the second he had no chance. Oh he dropped the ball, Van der sar did that a few times as well.
The unfortunate thing for De Gea is that his biggest weakness is dealing with crosses and our best defender who is a beast in the air is out for the rest of the season. Had Vidic been fit then I doubt we would have conceded the first scouse goal and DDG would probably have given a more composed performance.
A concern for me was that for the first time it looked like DDG was affected by his 'mistake'. Up until now whenever he has made a mistake he has looked reasonably unflustered and got on with the game but their goal affected him and in the 2nd half he made some errors which I don't think he would have done had we not conceded. One of his main attributes is mental strength but at the moment, it seems, he is lacking that.
A concern for me was that for the first time it looked like DDG was affected by his 'mistake'. Up until now whenever he has made a mistake he has looked reasonably unflustered and got on with the game but their goal affected him and in the 2nd half he made some errors which I don't think he would have done had we not conceded. One of his main attributes is mental strength but at the moment, it seems, he is lacking that.
could manutd.com pick a worse picture for DDG in an article where Owen is saying he's a "top keeper"?......
could manutd.com pick a worse picture for DDG in an article where Owen is saying he's a "top keeper"?......
He looks like a seal in the full pic
id prefer lindegaard, but hey, i dont buy the players or pick the team 
Not a good pic. He looks simple
He is....Simply shit.
Exactly the point I was going to make. The loss of Vidic has left him exposed to his biggest weakness. It's now up to him to correct that weakness, and with Vidic out he is simply going to have to. It might even be good for him in his development as a keeper.
We should buy an experienced old goalie to compete with Lindegard, and loan De Gea to somewhere like Wigan for a season or 2.
Personally, I've no doubts hes going to become a World Class keeper. Firstly, his distribution is as good as i've ever seen from any goalkeeper and secondly, he's capable of pulling off some top class saves.
The troubles he's having this season are the physical aspect of the league which will no doubt improve with more experience. Absolutely nothing to worry about.
I'm of the opinion that he's low on confidence though. I dont think Fergie has managed him particularly well; dropping him wasn't going to a help a player who already has fragile confidence. I believe we should've kept on playing him. You can argue all you like that if we kept on playing him we may have dropped more points, but thats what you get when you don't bring in an experienced keeper with the younger understudy to learn from, but there you go.
The troubles he's having this season are the physical aspect of the league which will no doubt improve with more experience. Absolutely nothing to worry about.
I'm of the opinion that he's low on confidence though. I dont think Fergie has managed him particularly well; dropping him wasn't going to a help a player who already has fragile confidence. I believe we should've kept on playing him. You can argue all you like that if we kept on playing him we may have dropped more points, but thats what you get when you don't bring in an experienced keeper with the younger understudy to learn from, but there you go.
How bitter can you get, it was a misunderstanding. He didn't steal any Donuts
Really? Is that your solution?
he should eat more of you and bulk up.
meh,this is probably a good season for him to start his career with us,what with all these injuries and still needing a player or two we aint gonna win anything this season so it doesn't matter if he costs us a few games,onwards and upwards to next season for this lad.
What? We're trying to encourage him to be our first-choice, long-term goalkeeper. The best way for him to learn is at United dealing with the intensity and pressures that go hand-in-hand with playing at one of the biggest clubs in the world. He'll have to learn to cope with that if he wants to play for us in the long term, it's tough but this is the best thing for him - he's getting used to the physicality and fast pace of the Premier League and the conditions surrounding one of the best clubs involved in the difficult title race.
We brought him for big money and it would not be good at all for his confidence to loan him out to a lower-than-midtable side after barely half a season. Shows a very distinctive lack of faith in him.
I don't understand the long discussion in this thread. Sure, Ferguson may have fecked up by the keeper rotation, stripping De Gea of any confidence he had. Apart from that, he needs to work on parts of his game.
But he's obviously a long term purchase, and many people have raved about his talent and potential. It'll take time before that potential becomes utilized, and he turns world class. In the meantime, we have to be patient with the mistakes he will make (shock horror) and get behind him, and the team needs to compensate for his errors whenever he makes them. I don't also buy the argument that we can't afford to bed in keepers. If the long term benefits are huge, I don't mind suffering a little in the meantime. My 2 cents on the matter.
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But he's obviously a long term purchase, and many people have raved about his talent and potential. It'll take time before that potential becomes utilized, and he turns world class. In the meantime, we have to be patient with the mistakes he will make (shock horror) and get behind him, and the team needs to compensate for his errors whenever he makes them. I don't also buy the argument that we can't afford to bed in keepers. If the long term benefits are huge, I don't mind suffering a little in the meantime. My 2 cents on the matter.
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What? Hopefully the title run in is going to be great and we have a great chance - precisely why I think it's a shame De Gea is bedding in this season. It means Ferguson has to compete against City with a real handicap...
PLAY LINDEGAARD. Unless we are writing off this season...
Sure De Gea will go on to be a top keeper in the future, but he will cost us points this season.
Sure De Gea will go on to be a top keeper in the future, but he will cost us points this season.
With our injury list it will be a miracle if we manage to win the league regardless of who the keeper is.
Well we're still very much in it and it looks like the injury situation is going to really improve in the coming weeks.
Same as any other season then. Let's be honest, when can ever start a season deciding it's ok to risk dropping points in the league to bed in a new keeper?
As an aside, we're over half-way through the season and have lost a grand total of one league point due to poor goal-keeping. VdS himself probably cost us more each season.
Well our best defender is out for the season and Rio's problems with injury are well noted so there is a massive handicap, plus we have our toughest run of games coming up playing the rest of the top 4 away from home.
He did, his mistake against West Brom at home cost us 2 points. Would have finished with a 100% home record. To be fair to him that's the only mistake he made all season that lead to a goal in the league.
Two things make me think SAF would dearly love to win the league this season - he'll be loathe to let City come out on top of United, and because of his roots he'll hate the 'new money' aspect of City and would love to beat it.
Add to that it might be his last season, or certainly one of them.
I guess you'd never have believed we'd beat Arsenal away without either Rio or Vidic at the start of the season though, right?
Smalling, Evans and Jones are fantastic deputies to have in Vidic's absence.
I think Fergie starts each season wanting to win the league as badly as he ever did before. It's how he's maintained all this success for so long. Anything less than 100% commitment is never an option.
What sets DDG apart is his football skills and passing. There are many good young shot stoppers out there. Where he lacks is dealing with the aerial threat and commanding his area. A keeper who impressed me was the Basel Keeper Yann Sommer in the way he commanded his area.
Nail on the head. The only game where we lost points due to goalkeeping error was Blackburn.
If the goalkeeper rotation in the first half of the season results in Fergie being able to make an informed decision on which one to go with for the run-in, we'll probably be thanking him.
That is true but says more about the side overcoming his other errors or the errors not resulting in goals like his mistake against Tottenham.
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