Slabber said:
Couldnt agree more. I was going menatl, when he drove into Villenueve at Jerez in 97.
David Coulthard
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Couldnt agree more. I was going menatl, when he drove into Villenueve at Jerez in 97.
Can I just point out here that Mika Hakkinen was'nt driving in the 2002 season! His last season was 2001.Slabber said:
2002 was when Kimi Raikonen joined and scored something like 4 points inside the first 9 races or so. This proves that DC has not always been outshone by his team mate.
Thats a great endorsement of DC - After 6 years at McLaren, he was quicker than the new kid for a few months.
DC was also quicker then hakkinen, for periods, before 1998. He has been a good driver, and in my oppinion deserves a drive next year.
'before 1998', i.e., before Mika woke up. Once he did, Coulthard may as well have been posting on here for all the notice Hakkinen took of him.
Mini Giggs said:
I was responding to Miley Bob saying that DC finished above Hakkinen in 2002. I assumed he was correct.
Anyway, DC outscoring a new guy who goes on to put him in the shade hardly proves your point.
miley_bob said:
Fortunately for F1, your opinion counts for jack shit.
Slabber said:
Sorry Keane16 has already made this point
My oppinion may count for jack shit as far as him getting a drive go, but others share my oppinion, and from listening to what Martin brundle has been saying, its looking as though DC will be getting a drive for next year.
miley_bob said:
with who? Skoda?
Dont know who with, but he has been saying that he is confident that DC will by racing in F1 next year.
Keane16 said:
Thats funny, i seem to remember Hakkinen taking notice of Dc in Barcelona 2001, after Mika's car broke down on the last lap, and he ended up getting a lift to the pits on Coulthards car. Not to mention the 11 times when DC won races whilst Hakkinen was driving. Hakkinen only won 18 races for christ sake. Thats only 5 more than DC has won to date.
miley_bob said:
I thought you were trying to stand up for him....now you reckon the only time Hakkinen paid attention to DC was when he needed a lift back to the pits. Good job Miley.By the way, Mika broke down on the last lap a few corners from home whilst leading. Anyone remember where Coulthard was in that race...nope.
miley_bob said:
How long did it take him to win those 18? And how many World Championships did he win at the same time? Thats what I mean by 'when Mika woke up'.
Mika pissed on Coulthard, Raikkonen pissed on Coulthard, even Hill pissed on Coulthard 90% of the time.
Brundle is his manager by the way, what do you expect him to say?
I know Brundle is his manager. thats why he is in the know. Id expect him to tell the truth, because he's an honest bloke, and because its not gonna do DC's chances anygood by saying he will be driving next year, if its not true, because it will just put potential teams off, by making them think theyll have a fight on their hands.
The point is, you can't trust his manager because his managers loyalty will obviously be to his client and not to you, so don't trust him - whether or not you think Martin Brundle is an honest bloke or not is irrelevant.
Nobody is going to fight for his signature. If he convinces someone to take him, then he'll be doing well. Nobody is knocking at the door. He was at Williams today looking for a one year deal and pleading experience. Personally, I think they'd be insane to take him on when they could have a nippy youngster instead, like they did with Button in 2000.
Nobody is going to fight for his signature. If he convinces someone to take him, then he'll be doing well. Nobody is knocking at the door. He was at Williams today looking for a one year deal and pleading experience. Personally, I think they'd be insane to take him on when they could have a nippy youngster instead, like they did with Button in 2000.
Your not maikng any point here!Keane16 said:
What makes you so sure?
How do you know?
Again how do you know?
Seen as though you think you know everything who would you suggest here?
hehe
Mini Giggs said:
Not spelling out the blatantly obvious to the mentally challenged more like.....you can't trust the blokes manager, whats so hard to understand about that?
Mini Giggs said:
Where are they then? Why is his manager in the media looking for a drive for him?
Mini Giggs said:
See above
Mini Giggs said:
read this
Mini Giggs said:
I don't know everything, but I know that Nelson Piquet jr just won the British F3 Championship and is contracted to Williams. Nick Heidfeld has a lot to prove, and contracts nothwithstanding, Anthony Davidson would jump at the chance. Then again they have Pizzonia, who would also be quicker than Coulthard.
Keane16 said:
Yep because Pizzonia was in an equal car to DC for a period earlier this season, and failed to really do better than him.
As for the idea that since 1998 Hakkinen was consistantly a lot better than Coulthard. Just look at the 2000 season. Hakkinen won 4 races to DC's 3, and there was only a gap of 16 points between them at the end of the season (not a big gap in my mind). In 2000 and 2001, the 2 drivers were about equally matched. Therefore he has consistantly been outshone by his team mate.
And in reply to that ridiculous advert he aslo finished a respectable 3rd in 1998, and only 15 people have won more races than him in the history of the sport (only one of which still races today).
As for that report on him visiting Williams. He is ideal for them as they only want a driver for a year. because after that Button will be available, and is said to be joining them. So yes i can actually see williams signing him, rather than taking a risk on a youngster, who there not going to have the benefits off, in a few years time, once he has matured.
miley_bob said:
In an era dominated by Schumacher, Coulthard's team mates have won 50 races and 3 World Championships. He's won clod all in comparison.
1998? You call third respectable? His car was capable of lapping the entire field for the first couple of grand prix, his team mate won the World Championship and you call 3rd respectable......come off it.
miley_bob said:
Coulthard reckons the reason he was so shite slow this year was that he know he was out of the job and that played havoc with him mentally.
Yet he has no compunction about signing a one year deal with Williams, knowing he's going to be out of the job at the end of the year.
The man is a loon.
Would you call Nick Heidfeld a youngster? He's been in F1 long enough to know what's what, but not too long like Coulthard. Davidson, more test mileage than anyone else over the last two years, and two races for Minardi already under his belt.
Keane16 said:
Along wiht Hakkinene he did lap the entire field in the first 2 races of that season. (he finished just behind Mika in both races, and only lost the 1st one due to a pre race agreement with Hakkinen.
As for his team mates winning 50 races thats utter bollocks. All his team mates combined have only won a total of 42 races, many of which he was not partnering them at the time. And neither was he part of the williams team, when Hill won, so his team mates have really only ever won 2 world championships. Barrichello's have won 4 whilst he's been there, but i dont see you calling for him to be dropped.
And when you consider 3rd, behind Hakkinen (2 times world champion) and Schumacher (7 times champion), yes i do call it respectable. Lets face it he beat 2 ex chamipons that season.
Thats what I said.miley_bob said:
miley_bob said:
That's actually true. Somebody told me 50 and I believed them, when the figure is actually 31 or something like that. Anyway, it's still shit and I bet he doesn't talk about it much.
miley_bob said:
If it was an issue, then I would. I don't think he's worth much either. Look at the F1 thread.
miley_bob said:
First of all, he was driving the championship winning car, yet didn't win the championship. Thats enough in my book. Secondly, it happened again the following year, except he was beaten by more people. Secondly, Mika wasn't a World Champion when he beat Schumacher that year, and Schumacher himself had only won two titles at that point. The year after, Coulthard was put to shame by Eddie Irvine, who also wasn't a World Champion.
At the end of the day, the Coulthard of a few years ago wasn't good enough to win the championship, and the Coulthard of today isn't even good enough to beat his teammate, let alone win a race. Seeing as you like statistics, here's a recent and more relevent one for you - last year Raikkonen's car failed him 8 times, and he only did 3/4 of Coulthard's race mileage, yet he led 50 laps to Coulthards none, scored twice as many points, got pole, and actually won a race. DC didn't.
That's why he's out of the job and having to tout himself around for a short term deal to anyone who'll listen.
Irvine was also a great driver, e proved this when SDchumacher ws injured. He finally bec aem the team number 1, and challanged for the title untill te last race. He led Ferarri to their 1st constructors title for god knows how long (something which really pissed schumacer off), and finished 4 points behind Hakkinen. Frpom about halfway through the 1998 seasonj hakkinen becam Mclarens number 1 driver, and thus got all the better packages, and DC was made to do things to help him, such as testing the track conditions for qualifying. DC hhas had a great career, (just comapre hime to te likes of Sterling Moss, wo never won a championship, yet is considered one of the alltime best). Before you get going i am not suggesting DC is in this catagory, all i am saying is that, you dont have to win a championship to be good. And 13 race wins, (including a British GP double), 2 constructors titles, the 6th highest amount of points in the history of the sport, is very good in my oppinion.
Very well, I'm of the same opinion as Ron Dennis however.
You cant exectly compare Eddie Irvine to DC back then as they were both in different cars.Keane16 said:
Thats like saying DC put Irvine to shame in 2000, 2001 & 2002 when Irvine was at Jaguar.
Mini Giggs said:
Jaysus, it's difficult to know where to start with that one
The McLaren was a hell of a lot better than the Jag, you do the rest.Mini Giggs is a complete cretin and I don't use that phrase lightly
Mini giggs is no fool, he just used a poor comparison. Wen it comes to F1 e has a good knowledge of the sport, and as made some interesting points in the past.
He's a Bush supporter
miley_bob said:
How do you explain his idiocy above then miley?
If you read my post, i said that it was a bad comparison, and yes looking just at that i can see how slabber came to form his oppinion. But wat i am saying is that after reading some of his other F1 related posts, that he isnt a fool, and that he sems to know what he's talking about.
Id just like to appologise now, for the poor spelling in my posts recently. Someonhe spilt a drink on my keyboard, and it hasnbt been working properley since. Am hoping to replace it some time next week. Untill then please try to bear with me
Mini Giggs is a Bush supporter. It's bad enough from Texas but from Hull ffs!
Yeah i disagree with any1 supporting bush, but when it comes to F1 he seems to know what he's talking about, most of the time.
He should quit he a waste of fecking space the big jawed cnut
He 10 times worse the paula radcliffe at least she wins more in there respected sports
Give another young driver a chance
He 10 times worse the paula radcliffe at least she wins more in there respected sports
Give another young driver a chance