David Coulthard

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The F1 season is over, and im alarmed to see that Dc still ahsnt got a drive for next year. After a certain german, he's the most successful driver still racing. He has scored the 6th largest amount of points ever, behind only, Schumacher, Prost, Senna, Piquet and Mansell.

I hope he signs for williams, and not some lower grid team, but even minardi would be better than seeing him out of F1
 
I'm surprised he's lasted as long as he has to be honest. Battered by every team mate he's had, his halycon days were late 1995 at Williams when he looked the real deal. Since then, he's been a nearly man at best, very consistant, but frightfully slow.

Apparantly he's a good development driver, - which more often than not is just Ronspeak for 'slow', but in this case, I actually think its true, so he could land a role on that side of things.

DC has shown his hand in F1, and it hasn't been good enough. Anyone employing him in a race seat now (with or without sponsorship) would really be doing him a favour and would be condemning us to another year of his bland 7th place finishes and rubbish qualifying. A Williams race seat is not for journeymen nearing the end of their career.
 
Keane16 said:
another year of his bland 7th place finishes and rubbish qualifying. A Williams race seat is not for journeymen nearing the end of their career.
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You got a point here pal, however I do hope he gets the drive at Williams but I cant see it I'm affraid. Theres a few good decent young drivers looking for drives for the up coming season and DC int one of them. People like Heidfeld, Fisichello, Massa and Da Matta.

Is Ralf Schumacher moving to Toyota as well as Trulli and Villeneuve taking Trulli's place at Renault?
 
I don't think so. I think he's set to stay. I'm sure he's under some sort of promise to Ferrari, so if he can take care of Villeneuve and grab a few podiums, he'll join the red lads, 2006.

Thats the plan, but I don't think he has it in him to be honest.
 
Schumachers gone in 06, so is Bryne, Brawn and Todt etc
 
Probably.

But the mini Giggs was tlaking about 06 with Massa wasn't he?
 
Mini Giggs said:
Dint think he was...so why are them lot saying he is then?
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Its just specutalation. Yhe likes of Tony jardine, etc have suggested this, and people seem to be believing it. However he has not yet said he is retiring.
 
Some people wants the great Schumi to retire. That's why they keep saying it because they want him to quit.
 
He's 35 now and and in 06 would be 37! I don't think he would want to stay too long, and if the rest of the crew retires, could well be another period of doldrums for Ferrari

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Michael Schumacher's manager says the reigning Formula One world champion will probably retire at the end of the 2006 season.

On Monday the five-time champion extended his contract with Ferrari for two further years until 2006.

"At the end of 2006 Formula One will be over for him," Willi Weber told German sports news agency SID. "At least that's what I expect.

"In January 2007 he will be 38. Then he will be able to say quietly: 'That was it for me in Formula One.'"

Schumacher stays with Ferrari

Meanwhile Eddie Jordan has expressed surprise that Schumacher has signed a new deal with Ferrari.

The Jordan team boss has gone as far as saying that he does not expect Schumacher to see out the deal.

He told BBC Radio Five Live: "I'd be surprised if he sees 2006 in Formula One.

"When drivers are that good it is usually they who decide when to stop, not the team.

"These guys have a great ability to know when to call it a day and retire with an aura of greatness around them. I think he'll be like that."

Jordan gave Schumacher his first drive in Formula One before the German moved on to Benetton and won back-to-back world championships in 1994 and 1995.

He then moved on to Ferrari and won the first of another three titles in 2000.
 
I think he'll stay on until 2006 unless something happens to make him change his mind next season. If he or Ferrari loses competitiveness, then that will hasten his decision, no doubt about that. I don't see him losing it though, and Ferrari seem to be solid too. Every season is different though.

If he does stay on, and has a competitive enough car, then he'll win two more world titles, no doubt about that IMO. Posibility he may retire after next season if it is a bit of a struggle. After that, I reckon he'll take a bit of time off and return to F1 and probably with Ferrari as Sporting Director or similar. Probably take a broader role within the company too.
 
Keane16 said:
Posibility he may retire after next season if it is a bit of a struggle.
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I dont think he would.....even if he did'nt win the title. Reasons for this because people will start spouting that he int good enough any more and that he is too old......therefore he will want to stay on win another world title and prove to everyone he is the best ever.
 
miley_bob said:
The F1 season is over, and im alarmed to see that Dc still ahsnt got a drive for next year. After a certain german, he's the most successful driver still racing. He has scored the 6th largest amount of points ever, behind only, Schumacher, Prost, Senna, Piquet and Mansell.

I hope he signs for williams, and not some lower grid team, but even minardi would be better than seeing him out of F1
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All the teams know he's rubbish and that's why no-one wants him. He's useless at qualifying, stalls on the starting grid more than anyone else in the history of the sport and is generally more accident prone than Stephen Hawking on roller-skates.
 
Slabber said:
All the teams know he's rubbish and that's why no-one wants him. He's useless at qualifying, stalls on the starting grid more than anyone else in the history of the sport and is generally more accident prone than Stephen Hawking on roller-skates.
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Do you even know what your on about. If he's rubbish, how come he's the 5th highest point scorer ever, how come he's been runner up before, how come he helped mclaren win the constructors title in 1998, and supported Hakkinen to 2 drivers championships. He also beat hakkinen in the 2002 season. And if he's rubbish how come he's won 13 races, one of them in the ferrari dominated season of 2002 (one of only 2 non ferrari drivers to win that season).
 
miley_bob said:
Do you even know what your on about. If he's rubbish, how come he's the 5th highest point scorer ever, how come he's been runner up before, how come he helped mclaren win the constructors title in 1998, and supported Hakkinen to 2 drivers championships. He also beat hakkinen in the 2002 season. And if he's rubbish how come he's won 13 races, one of them in the ferrari dominated season of 2002 (one of only 2 non ferrari drivers to win that season).
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I'm not saying he's never had his moments - he's a charger after all - but they are few and far between given that he's always driven for one of the leading teams. Hakkinen had a shocker in 2002. Other than that he has always been slower than his team-mate, which says it all. I don't know anyone who rates Coulthard. Why do you think no-one wants him? I know he's British and I generally support British drivers, but I'm embarrassed by him.
 
Slabber is right in his conclusion, but wrong in more or less every facet of criteria he has used to come to that conclusion.

There's a lesson in there somewhere.
 
Coulthard's rubbish. I can't remember exactly where he's finished in every race for the last decade but he's been driving for Williams and McLaren and generally been significantly slower than his team mate over the course of a season and/or failed to finish due to blowing his engine/driving into the back of someone/stalling on the grid/speeding in the pit lane/spinning for no particular reason/generally being slightly incompetent behind the wheel. Please correct me where I'm wrong.
 
Slabber said:
he's been driving for Williams and McLaren and generally been significantly slower than his team mate over the course of a season.
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Correct. He started his career well, put it up to Hill and Hakkinen early on, but once Mika got the bit between his teeth after winning at Jerez in 1997, DC has become a journeyman.

Slabber said:
and/or failed to finish due to blowing his engine/driving into the back of someone/stalling on the grid/speeding in the pit lane/spinning for no particular reason.
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twaddle, he's not known for any of these.
 
Keane16 said:
twaddle, he's not known for any of these.
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You're wrong. They are his trademark. I think you watch Coulthard through rose-tinted glasses. He's a disaster zone.
 
:lol: I'm no fan of his don't worry. I'm amazed someone so slow has lasted so long.

Fact is though, that his high-profile errors were years ago. Driving into the pit-lane in Australia and going off from pole on the warm-up lap at Monza are probably the two most high profile, although what he was doing at Spa'98 remains a mystery, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on that one.

Lately he has been seen as a safe pair of hands, which comes with experience. You're point regarding his habitual engine breaking, grid stalling, unforced errors etc...are simply off the mark. No more than anyone else, and certainly less than most.
 
Keane16 said:
Lately he has been seen as a safe pair of hands, which comes with experience. You're point regarding his habitual engine breaking, grid stalling, unforced errors etc...are simply off the mark. No more than anyone else, and certainly less than most.
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You're wrong again. He has become a 'safe pair of hands' by driving very slowly.

And the rest, I've seen it so many times I laugh when he retires from a race.

Poor old DC. Will someone back me up here? I haven't got the stats to hand but I'd bet no-one has stalled on the grid more often.
 
Keane16 said:
what you've just posted is exactely what I've been saying.
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what you've just posted is exactely what I've been saying.
 
"What you gonna do?
When morons come for you?
And they won't go away?
They want the whole world painted grey."

Lyrics from It's Up to You from the album, The Specials, by The Specials .
 
Slabber said:
You're wrong again. He has become a 'safe pair of hands' by driving very slowly.

And the rest, I've seen it so many times I laugh when he retires from a race.

Poor old DC. Will someone back me up here? I haven't got the stats to hand but I'd bet no-one has stalled on the grid more often.
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DC vry rarely stalls on the grid, and certainly in recent times it has been the toyota drivers which have experienced this, alonmg with the jaguar drivers. I thgink you need to go away and read upon juust what happened this season. As for him runninjg into people, the majority of te time it has been people hitting him, however i agree that he was at fault in Spa 98 (and he has also accepted blame for this).
 
Slabber said:
You're wrong again. He has become a 'safe pair of hands' by driving very slowly.

And the rest, I've seen it so many times I laugh when he retires from a race.

Poor old DC. Will someone back me up here? I haven't got the stats to hand but I'd bet no-one has stalled on the grid more often.
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DC vry rarely stalls on the grid, and certainly in recent times it has been the toyota drivers which have experienced this, alonmg with the jaguar drivers.Just look at this seasons stats, DC finsied more races than Raikonnen, so your argument is totally unfoundered. I thgink you need to go away and read upon juust what happened this season. As for him runninjg into people, the majority of the time it has been people hitting him, however i agree that he was at fault in Spa 98 (and he has also accepted blame for this).
 
I was thinking more about his career as a whole than anything that happened this season
 
Richter said:
Some people wants the great Schumi to retire. That's why they keep saying it because they want him to quit.
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Surely most people want the arrogant tit to go away as soon as possible.
 
He's a cheat. He drove into Hill and should have been deducted points. He tried it with Villeneuve and came off worse.

Someone of his talent should be bigger than that.
 
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