it's not as if he's below "Manchester United" level. He's so clearly not good enough to be playing for any premier league club at the moment. He's looked completely out of his depth every game this season. Makes me wonder how he's doing in training.
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He'll leave in the summer with our best wishes having proved to be a valuable dressing room asset amongst all of the recent change. He isn't very good anymore and that is a shame as much as it's completely understandable. The "retire now" comments are stupid, however. It isn't Fletcher that cost us points today.
He could certainly still be an asset to many teams, but it's an unfortunate truth that he's not able to play well at this level anymore.
When I saw his name on the teamsheet today instead of Herrera's I had a bad feeling about today. He'll never get back to the player he was sadly and will be sold in the summer to burnley or West Brom
We would've been better off starting Blackett and playing Carrick in CM.
Which says it all really.
Which says it all really.
I don't know why some get so annoyed when people suggest he retire, I don't think he's good enough for any PL team now, the league is just too fast and physical. I'd much rather he retired and went onto the coaching staff as clearly he is well liked and highly respected by the players and could still be an asset to United in a different capacity.
Would people stop shouting for him to retire, it's disgraceful
By all means I agree that I think he's probably had his time at United and arguably this level but he could certainly play on in the SPL for example. He's fought hard to come back from a serious illness he deserves to play football for as long as he can!
By all means I agree that I think he's probably had his time at United and arguably this level but he could certainly play on in the SPL for example. He's fought hard to come back from a serious illness he deserves to play football for as long as he can!
What qualifies him to be on the coaching staff? He's an ex player? So what?
I think some people are far too sentimental.
We are the 3rd biggest football club in the World.
The individuals at the club need to be the best at what they do.
Moyes wasnt good enough, so he was sacked.
Fletcher needs to go the same way.
If he can play for another club, then good for him, otherwise he should retire.
During the first half, their were times that he looked like a deer in head-lights. And this was against Aston Villa!
We are the 3rd biggest football club in the World.
The individuals at the club need to be the best at what they do.
Moyes wasnt good enough, so he was sacked.
Fletcher needs to go the same way.
If he can play for another club, then good for him, otherwise he should retire.
During the first half, their were times that he looked like a deer in head-lights. And this was against Aston Villa!
Guys, do you think he can be a success elsewhere, for example in Scotland? Personally I don’t think so, I think he’s finished as a player on any level. He looked very good in preseason but now it seems he struggles with any physicality and looks like he’s been on the pitch for 90 minutes since the kick off.
I wish him the very best but I really can’t see anyone being interested in his services.
I wish him the very best but I really can’t see anyone being interested in his services.
Don't be daft. He'd be great in the SPL.
I'm sorry for asking. I have zero knowledge of the SPL.
He'll do fine at anyone in the SPL bar Celtic who have to play better players in Europe.
Golden Blunder he may deserve to play football but at the suitable level. He's finished at this level as you say but don't pan him of in the sfl for feck sake your a disgrace for even saying this lol
Probably just fine, which is why LVG has kept playing him. The slightly lower intensity in training probably hides his deficiencies.
Im grateful for his services and hope he can continue playing somewhere, but he has now slipped into the costing us games territory. He cannot play for us again in my eyes.
He's done. Most of us here have known this for a while though. I don't blame him for the performance though. Van Gaal shouldn't have selected him. It's been obvious for ages that he just can't do it anymore. It will be his last season I imagine.
I'm aware he only played vs Villa due to a lack of personnel, but somebody has to tell him he's not good enough any longer for a club that wants champions league football.
Pretty certain he knows that already. He's what our 7th choice CM? And we're hardly blessed with Bayernesque talent there.
How much of this anti Fletcher thing from the Villa game was predetermined by so many deciding he would have a bad game even before kick off?. I am just watching the game again and 15 minutes in he hasnt put a foot wrong. The match thread however was already indicating he was having a stinker. Is there a level of confirmation bias kicking in here?. Decide he is shit and then wait till he makes a mistake and that confirms he is shit?
Love Fletch but not sure how he got the nod today.
Most have said the same allthe season......everyone could see that in the first three matches that he's nowhere good enough anymore to play for us.
I think we all love Fletcher and it's great to see he's back on the football pitch........now is important and not the past!!!!
And "He hasn't put a foot wrong" should be never a compliment for a Manchester United player.
He was too slow and he hasn't made a single risky pass.
When was that moment where he got the ball just behind the 2 strikers, RVP had spun off and was atleast 10 yards from the nearest CB, ball was zipped into fletch, I rose from my sofa anticipating a simple pass to RVP and fletch couldnt even control the pass.
To be honest, I think LVG thought he could get away with starting Fletcher today. He realized that he had to make the change at half time because Fletcher was ineffective the entire first half.
It's a sad day, but if there were any lingering hopes that Fletcher had something left, those hopes were dashed.
Great servant of the club, but he's done.
Great servant of the club, but he's done.
Cant believe Van Gaal choose him without him showing adequate performances in training .. it could very well be a bad day for him at office .
But the question really is , whether his current ceiling is the level that you want in your midfield .
But the question really is , whether his current ceiling is the level that you want in your midfield .
This is exactly the sort of assumption I find baffling. How do you know how he has performed in training?. Have you heard he has been poor in training?
He's saying LvG wouldn't pick him unless he performed well in training, I think.
Fletch was so off the pace though. Hard to watch.
Aha, thanks, makes sense.
Hope we give Periera a run at some point for in place of Fletch
Do you work for the coaching team? Or are you making shit up?
Why do our fans expect a high level performance from a player who hasn't featured regularly for several months, it seems a player isn't allowed to have a blip these days, if he does he's finished.
Yep but it has been obvious for a while now (I suffer the same disease there was no way he was coming back being the same player) especially as his engine was one of his biggest attributes. It will be a mark of where we are when we finally ship out Fletch, Anderson and Evans. They wouldn't get anywhere near the Chelsea squad and that's where we need to get to.
If you suffer from the disease then surely you know about Redgrave the olympic Rower?
It's not comparable.
Why not?
Not much else to say than adios Fletch, tempo is way too quick for him in the PL.
I think he can still do a job for us, I don’t believe he will start to many games but if we are in Europe next season we will need as many experienced players around as possible. Fans tend to write players off far too quickly these days.
Because it isn't, the two sports are entirely different in their demands on the body and mind.
While I agree fans can be quick to write off players, that's not the case with Fletcher. He hasn't played well since 2010.Well im not the type to do that, but in Fletcher's case i just see him done at this level. He just isn't good anymore.
His crappy 'form' goes all the way back to the Burnley game. He was hiding then, unable to get any control of the game. And it is still clear he is finished.
Stack it ended my football career Redgrave is in a different sport. If Fletcher had been a Pirlo then I would expected not much of a drop off but unfortunately for Fletcher he relied heavily on his engine and that has been weakened dramatically.
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